lauren, (edited ) to CrystalsHashtags
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Tomorrow on my usual Monday evening national network radio tech segment, I'll be discussing the absolute mess that has gotten itself into over the last few days, as changes to their cloud terms of service triggered massive blowback against those terms in general. I've already seen this being referred to as the "Adobe Apocalypse". I'll also be discussing how these tie in with broader concerns about subscription models and firms taking user content for their AI models, etc.

stux, to CrystalsHashtags
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

Yeah, f you to #Adobe

:nkoHammer: 🤖

https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms.html

lauren, to CrystalsHashtags
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Why so many people are mad at Adobe!

In case you don't follow this stuff, many people in the creator community are apparently very upset at , who has moved full steam into subscription cloud-based services with everything that implies.

It seems they recently asked users to accept some relatively minor changes in their terms of service, relating to content moderation, what content Adobe can view and use, legal requirements, etc.

I said these were minor changes and from what I've seen they seem to be that. But the problem is that this has attracted creators' attention to terms of service that most didn't read or understand fully before this, which is quite a nasty piece of work. Very typical of many cloud services today though. So the creator community is up in arms, with new YouTube videos on the topic seemingly popping up by the hour. An "explainer" that Adobe sent out to try calm things down appears to have just made things worse.

Talk about unforced errors. It's not just .

MoBlack, to CrystalsHashtags
@MoBlack@mastodon.online avatar

The crazy thing about #Adobe is that their terms of service and overall practices surrounding #AI are actually about as good as it gets in terms of big software companies.

Basically every other big tech company from Google to X to Meta are actually confirmed to be training AI models on whatever you post on their platforms. Adobe, for now, trains models on royalty-free data and data they actually bought a license to.

NOT handing it to Adobe just pointing out we're fucked if that's the bar

rysiek, to CrystalsHashtags
@rysiek@mstdn.social avatar

While #Adobe is doing an absolute stupid with their new licensing terms, and (now Canva-owned) #Affinity slashes prices by half in a "flash sale", I am once again asking people to consider supporting #FLOSS tools instead.

Yes, they are far from perfect.

But with a small fraction of what these closed source vendors are raking in, these tools could be made immeasurably better.

And they won't end up bought up and enshittified, as experience with past attempts at doing that to FLOSS tools shows.

ronanmcd, to CrystalsHashtags
@ronanmcd@mastodon.green avatar

I use #Adobe but I stopped putting my files in their cloud years ago, when it became obvious they were seeing rights over users' work. They never hid it, this is not a surprise.
And all the time they have pushed it harder with apps such as acrobat in your phone automatically saving, and all apps asking to save to the cloud before taking you to the dialogue for local versions
https://slate.com/technology/2024/06/adobe-terms-use-backlash-licensing-royalty-generative-ai-creative-cloud.html?via=rss

oblomov, to microsoft
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This is a friendly warning and reminder that if you had started looking on ways to move away from and/or for their latest shenanigans, do NOT stop now. Make the effort to move away NOW if at all possible even if they pretend to have backtracked. Because WHEN (not IF, but WHEN) they'll pull the same shit again, it will be HARDER, not EASIER, to get out of their prison.

GameFromScratch, to gamedev
@GameFromScratch@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

Remember when Unity self destructed with the whole run-time fee and all their competitors dunked on them?

Well... it's Adobe's turn.

Affinity have announced a 50% off Flash sale on their Adobe-alternative software Affinity.
https://gamefromscratch.com/affinity-products-50-off-in-flash-sale/

#gamedev #indiedev #adobe

xavsworld, to CrystalsHashtags French
@xavsworld@mas.to avatar

Bye bye #Adobe !

Je n'avais pas renouvelé l'abonnement à Photoshop, et il était échu depuis quelques jours, mais là j'ai passé à l'étape suivante.

Pour ceux qui se le demandent: j'ai passé à Gimp/Inkscape. même si je sacre par bout, mais bon à force de s'en servir, ça va finir par rentrer.

renwillis, to CrystalsHashtags
@renwillis@mstdn.social avatar

Welp. I was debating canceling my #Adobe Creative Cloud renewal (was set to renew mid-June), but with Adobe's latest #AI move, that sealed the deal.

I've been mostly using iPad alternatives for a while now anyway, so time to go all-in there!

B-bye, Adobe. Thanks for all the fish.

#artificialintelligence #art #artist #photoshop

kde, (edited ) to kde
@kde@floss.social avatar

You heard . Deep down you knew this was coming. Now all your art are belong to them. Time to move on to better things...

Kreative Suite

  • Krita is your new design/painting app
  • Kdenlive will give you video-editing powers
  • glaxnimate adds 2D vector animations to you videos
  • digiKam organises your collection images

https://kde.org/for/creators/
Also:

  • Inkscape - create sophisticated vector-graphic designs
  • Scribus - layout like a pro
  • GIMP - need we say more
  • Blender - ditto

@kde

kde, (edited )
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Grant_M, to ai
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appleinsider, to random
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After a terms of service update that infuriated artists, and an initial statement that poured gasoline on the fire, Adobe has made a clear statement about its new use terms.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/06/07/adobe-has-clarified-controversial-shrinkwrap-license-terms-but-the-damage-may-have-already-been-done?utm_medium=social&utm_source=mastodon

ottaross,
@ottaross@mastodon.social avatar

@appleinsider A well-written piece. Hits on two key points in the #Adobe statement:

a. The latter wasn't really in question.
b. The former is oddly specific

The statement is hilariously transparent, every word tweaked to avoid their actual plan, and thereby exposing said plan.

"Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content."

"does not" – present tense (so you will in the future?)

"Firefly Gen AI models" – our Gen2Pro Models, tho, we gonna train that up in your content!

davidbisset, to CrystalsHashtags
@davidbisset@phpc.social avatar

I of course used to use #Adobe big time in my early web days. Once they went subscription, I did annual for a few years then dropped them for Pixelmator Pro (a #MacOs app that I paid a one-time fee for, but paid to update later).

https://www.pixelmator.com/pro/

Not only does it do 90% of what I ever needed #Photoshop for, it's mostly got the same key commands so my muscle memory didn't need much re-training.

kubikpixel, to CrystalsHashtags German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

»Adobe will Zugriff auf Inhalte von Photoshop-Usern:
Der Konzern hat seine Nutzungsbedingungen aktualisiert. Wer zustimmt, gibt dem Unternehmen das Recht, auf seine Daten zuzugreifen.«

Ich empfehle und nutze schon länger @krita, @GIMP, @inkscape, @Blender und/oder @penpot aber ich bin ja kein Grafikprofi. Abgesehen davon wird selten zugegeben, dass die Fixierung auf einen Hersteller nicht unbedingt professionell ist.

🖌️ https://www.inside-it.ch/adobe-will-zugriff-auf-inhalte-von-photoshop-usern-20240606


kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

🧵 …und immer noch wird Apple so wie Adobe als professionell und nicht als Spionage oder/und Ausnutzung angesehen. Vom Copyright und Co. sprechen wir hier noch gar nicht, denn dies ist so umgesetzt keine Freiheit.

[ENG]
»Adobe's new terms of service unacceptably gives them access to all of your projects, for free«

🖌️ https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/06/06/adobes-new-terms-of-service-unacceptably-gives-them-access-to-all-of-your-projects-for-free


Junicast,
@Junicast@chaos.social avatar

@kubikpixel Was #Adobe da macht ist nicht akzeptabel. Trotzdem werden es alle Idioten vermutlich schlucken. Warum Apple Software SpyWare sein soll, kann ich allerdings nicht im Ansatz nachvollziehen / nachempfinden.

mina, to windows
@mina@berlin.social avatar

Whilst I find the whining of #Windows and #Adobe users about privacy infringing changes mildly annoying (We've been telling you for 20+ years that tying yourself to multi-billion-dollar corporations was a bad idea, but most of you actively chose that anyway), this might be the final push for public institutions and companies to demand open standards and formats in order to award contracts.

This gives me a bit of hope.

metin, to CrystalsHashtags
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BenjaminNelan, to CrystalsHashtags
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The tricky thing about being a company that I don't trust is that even when you try to clarify something you need to be aware that specificity can sound suss.

"Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content."

The way this is worded does not say your content is not used in training AI models, just that it's - SPECIFICALLY - not used to train "Firefly Gen AI models."

https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/06/clarification-adobe-terms-of-use

#Adobe #AI

drahardja, to CrystalsHashtags
@drahardja@sfba.social avatar

I don’t understand the outrage over #adobe’s EULA. The new terms are basic boilerplate. Anyone hosting content on the web has the same terms in their EULA.

Am I missing something? Or is this just another hoopla over nothing?

https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/06/change-to-adobe-terms-amp-conditions/

flxtr, to CrystalsHashtags
@flxtr@social.tchncs.de avatar

WTF?

https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/06/change-to-adobe-terms-amp-conditions/

#AdobeTermsAndConditions #adobe #tac #TermsAndConditions

Movie director Duncan Jones was equally blunt in his response. > Hey @Photoshop what the hell was that new agreement you forced us to sign this morning that locked our ap until we agree to it? We are working on a bloody movie here, and NO, you don’t suddenly have the right to any of the work we are doing on it because we pay you to use photoshop. What the f**k?!
Concept artist Sam Santala pointed out that you can’t raise a support request to discuss the terms without first agreeing to them. You can’t even uninstall the apps! > I can’t even get ahold of your support chat to question this unless I agree to these terms beforehand. > > I can’t even uninstall Photoshop unless I agree to these terms?? Are you f**king kidding me??

marventh, to CrystalsHashtags Polish
@marventh@pol.social avatar

Czy ktoś tutaj korzysta z Adobe Ilustratora i może się wypowiedzieć, dlaczego ten program lubi zamulać? Co w nim ustawić by działał płynnie? Jest SSD, dużo RAM, nienajgorszy raczej procesor i wraz takie cyrki. Nie ja korzystam, ale nie znam tego softu na tyle, by go skonfigurować poprawnie.

#adobe #adobeillustrator

tuneintodetuned, to noticias Spanish
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Me parto el culo.

Adobe Photoshop pide acceso a todo el contenido que se cree con la herramienta. Incluso aunque sea confidencial

https://www.xataka.com/privacidad/adobe-photoshop-pide-acceso-a-todo-contenido-que-se-cree-herramienta-incluso-sea-confidencial

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