42aross, to tech
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Slack users horrified to discover messages used for AI training

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/slack-defends-default-opt-in-for-ai-training-on-chats-amid-user-outrage/

> Slack says policy changes are imminent amid backlash.

m0bi13, to random Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

"Według doniesień platforma mediów społecznościowych Discord planuje dodać reklamy po tym, jak już je odrzucała.

Reklamy zaczną się pojawiać na bezpłatnej platformie Discord w tym tygodniu, podał w sobotę (30 marca) The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), powołując się na źródła zaznajomione z planami firmy."

Źródło [EN]:
https://www.pymnts.com/news/social-commerce/2024/report-discord-to-show-ads-after-history-of-shunning-them/

P.S. Same reklamy to pół biedy. Wpuszczenie razem z nimi profilowania/szpiegowania użytkowników przez duże platformy reklamowe to jest problem.

m0bi13,
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar
sergi, to random
@sergi@floss.social avatar

hi @elementary. Is the Slack Community restricted to Gmail, Apple and Elementary emails? I can't figure out a way to join.

alexshendi, to random
@alexshendi@rollenspiel.social avatar

BOB IS WATCHING YOU!

GET SOME SLACK!!!!

supergarv, to random German
@supergarv@phpc.social avatar

... und diese Antwort hier bekommt man von , wenn man den Opt-Out anfordert.

https://awscommunity.social/@Quinnypig/112452921509401306

remixtures, to ai Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

#AI #GenerativeAI #Slack #AITraining #Copyright: "It all kicked off last night, when a note on Hacker News raised the issue of how Slack trains its AI services, by way of a straight link to its privacy principles — no additional comment was needed. That post kicked off a longer conversation — and what seemed like news to current Slack users — that Slack opts users in by default to its AI training, and that you need to email a specific address to opt out.

That Hacker News thread then spurred multiple conversations and questions on other platforms: There is a newish, generically named product called “Slack AI” that lets users search for answers and summarize conversation threads, among other things, but why is that not once mentioned by name on that privacy principles page in any way, even to make clear if the privacy policy applies to it? And why does Slack reference both “global models” and “AI models?”

Between people being confused about where Slack is applying its AI privacy principles, and people being surprised and annoyed at the idea of emailing to opt-out — at a company that makes a big deal of touting that “Your control your data” — Slack does not come off well."

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/17/slack-under-attack-over-sneaky-ai-training-policy/?guccounter=1

cory, to tech
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m0bi13, to Matrix Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

Zawsze, ale to zawsze jest tak samo... Z każdym serwisem prowadzonym nie dla ludzi, a jedynie dla zysku... #zgównienie #enshittification

"Użytkownicy #Slack-a są przerażeni, gdy odkrywają wiadomości używane do szkolenia AI. Slack w obliczu ostrej reakcji twierdzi, że zmiany polityki są nieuchronne."

Źródło [EN]:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/slack-defends-default-opt-in-for-ai-training-on-chats-amid-user-outrage/

P.S. Migracja użytkowników ze Slacka na #Matrix była tak duża, że przymuliło matrix.org 😉

Chodźcie na matrixa, ale nie na matrix.org a na Polskie serwery w federacji:

#PolSocial https://chat.pol.social czy #NoEvil https://chat.noevil.pl

weirdwriter, to privacy

I know other blind people love AI but why is corporations/companies like this taking all of your private internal chats and data to be used for their LLMs a good thing? More importantly, can we go back to and now? https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

kennysmith, to ai
@kennysmith@mstdn.social avatar

I was so, SO happy to leave Slack behind. And, remembering how that last group of people used it: YEESH.

“If you use Slack for work, your messages and DMs are now being used to train the company’s machine learning features — and everyone is opted in by default.

“A quiet Individual users can’t opt out either, something critics have called a “privacy mess.”

https://flip.it/Tb1gRM

From: @TechDesk
https://flipboard.social/@TechDesk@flipboard.social/112458353011795780

Gert, to ai Italian
@Gert@qoto.org avatar

Gli utenti di Slack, un’app di messaggistica per le aziende, scoprono che i loro dati vengono ampiamente usati per addestrare modelli di machine learning, nonostante questo non sia chiaramente indicato nelle politiche sulla privacy del servizio.

Nella pagina stessa di Slack AI si legge:

“Lavora senza preoccupazioni
I tuoi dati sono tuoi. Non li utilizziamo per addestrare l’IA di Slack. Tutto gira all’interno dell’infrastruttura sicura di Slack, rispettando gli stessi standard di conformità di Slack.”
[https://slack.com/intl/it-it/features/ai]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/slack-defends-default-opt-in-for-ai-training-on-chats-amid-user-outrage/

TechDesk, to ai
@TechDesk@flipboard.social avatar

If you use Slack for work, your messages and DMs to friends and colleagues are now being used to train the company’s machine learning features — and everyone is opted in by default.

A quiet update to the company’s policy suggests messages, data and files sent by users are helping Slack to improve its in-app features like channel recommendations, search results and emoji suggestions, reports @PCMag. Individual users can’t opt out either, something critics have called a “privacy mess.”

https://flip.it/Tb1gRM

noellemitchell, to news
@noellemitchell@mstdn.social avatar

Slack users horrified to discover messages used for AI training

"However, it remains unclear what exactly happens when users opt out. Commenters on Hacker News slammed Slack for failing to explain whether opting out deletes data from the models or "what exactly does the customer support rep do on their end to opt you out.""

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/slack-defends-default-opt-in-for-ai-training-on-chats-amid-user-outrage/

dtgeek, to ai
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LinuxAndYarn, to random
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The of is getting worse. You can't personally opt out of LLM training -- your instance admin has to know about it and remove it for everyone.

And it's putting a pall over some of those DMs I've had over work slack.

https://www.engadget.com/yuck-slack-has-been-scanning-your-messages-to-train-its-ai-models-181918245.html

Crell, to ai
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josh, to Matrix
@josh@josh.tel avatar

You know who will never mine your private communications to train an LLM?

Better yet, you know whose words you don't need to trust, because you aren't obligated to use any particular server? And the software is open source? And regularly audited by security researchers?

Matrix.

It's not perfect, but no tool is. It's a matter of what trade offs you're willing to accept. Just sayin' ¯_(ツ)_/¯

joeo10, to random
@joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Stop using folks as they too have jumped the shark yet again. https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/17/slack-under-attack-over-sneaky-ai-training-policy/

There's plenty of open source alternatives out there. being one of them.

jscholes, to accessibility
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Yesterday was Global Awareness Day (). Today, some companies will be considering switching away from to a less alternative due to bullshit.

thomasapowell, to ai
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Last year I told my team we have to get off because this train wreck would likely happen and I wasn’t ok with info leakage like that of our private and customer chat. Sadly as we are finding out it happened. We had picked and found it was fine as a replacement but the migration has been a slow effort. At least now it will accelerate.

jeeynet, to random French
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Dites pas de bêtises sur , ça pourrait induire en erreur leur future

https://slack.com/intl/fr-fr/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

faire envoyer un email à une adresse pour demander à exclure son espace de l'exploitation des conversations privées. Belle interprétation du consentement préalable (imaginez donc qu'un inconnu vous embrasse sous prétexte que vous utilisez Slack puis que l'on vous demande d'envoyer un email à quelqu'un pour ne plus qu'on vous le fasse, ça le fait pour vous ?)

jschauma, to ai
@jschauma@mstdn.social avatar

Cool, cool, now uses your workspace data to train its . Gotta hoover up all that juicy data. Surely there's no copyrighted or otherwise sensitive content on any of the corporate instances, and leaking that is totally impossible, pinky-promise.

https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

(You still have the option to opt out. For now...)

stevelord, to ai
@stevelord@bladerunner.social avatar

are feeding your chats into behind your back. Opt-out details in the link, but you're better off moving away if you have the option: https://slack.com/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

finestructure, to beeper
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

I've used for several weeks now across , , , , and it's been a great improvement to the messaging mess:

• I've actually had an easier time keeping up with Slack than in Slack itself
• Initially I ran clients side by side but Beeper updates just as fast and I've since stopped running most except for Discord which I use for calls
• Even so, it's great to run it in parallel to Discord, because it's easier to text chat in Beeper while in a video call

finestructure,
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

Another huge plus of Beeper is that when you set it up on a new machine that’s a •single• login to get all your chats set up.

Just saved me faffin about with 5 service logins to get everything up and running 👌

#Beeper #Discord #Slack #Whatsapp #Signal #Telegram

rotnroll666, to llm
@rotnroll666@mastodon.social avatar

Absolutely unbelievable but here we are. #Slack by default using messages, files etc for building and training #LLM models, enabled by default and opting out requires a manual email from the workspace owner.

https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

What a time to be alive in IT. 🤦‍♂️

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