So I’m watching over on #Bluesky they’ve “realised” they can train their own model for content moderation and are laughing because it’s flagged up “pestilence” as a word indicating a problematic post. Now I’m no ML whiz but surely they’re going to need a boatload of human work to get this going (tagging, testing, retraining) and it’s not just something to “mess around with” live as they seem to be doing?
Soziales Netzwerk Bluesky - eine echte Alternative zu X?
Die Plattform Bluesky könnte eine Alternative sein zum Kurznachrichten-Dienst X, der seit der Übernahme durch Elon Musk Nutzer verliert. Welche Erfolgschancen hat das neue Netzwerk? Von David Zajonz.
So, we jumped from #Twitter to #Mastodon, after a man with a sink showed us how fragile centralized platforms really are. And now there's #Bluesky wanting to convince us that their AT Protocol is even more robust than #ActivityPub. But is it really superior and would it have been better to build the #fediverse on top of this protocol, instead?
#FediBlock snarfed.org and brid.gy for bridging fediverse folks to Bluesky against their will (and in likely contravention of GDPR in the EU) with typical Silicon Valley techbro sense of entitlement:
“[O]pt in results in far fewer users, and users are critical for a bridge to be useful.”¹
The #Bluesky suggested follower experience appears to work. I made one single meaningless post right when I created the account, engaged basically with nobody, and I have 49 followers.
> BlueSky’s decentralization is a similar kind as with cryptocurrencies: sure, you can run your own node, but that does not give you basically any meaningful agency in the system.
> “Neutrality” and “speech” and “voice” and “protection from bans” is mentioned right there, front and center, in BlueSky’s overview and FAQ. At the same time moderation and anti-harassment features are, at best, an afterthought.
When #Bluesky says "Protocols, not platforms", they intent two things:
Grabbing people's attention by telling them what they want to hear.
Presenting the AT Protocol as an alternative to #ActivityPub to capitalize on the current hype around #Mastodon, the #Fediverse and decentralized social media in general.
The two protocols are not equal solutions for the same problem and, in fact, AT is not even a (communication) protocol to begin with.
Former CEO of Twitter wanted to build a social protocol no-one can control, like SMTP or HTTP for social media. Bluesky’s ATProto was supposed to be an open source protocol that Twitter could eventually utilize, but then Musk happened and Bluesky started taking it to the wrong direction and everything fell apart in Dorsey’s mind.
A very revealing interview. I now see even more future in W3C’s ActivityPub.
Bluesky-Hype: Man sollte meinen, dass der Niedergang von #Twitter/#X gezeigt hat, warum Plattformen, die von einem einzigen Unternehmen kontrolliert werden, eine miese Idee sind.
Bei #Mastodon liegen Inhalte auf verschiedenen Instanzen (Servern), die von Nutzern/Institutionen selbst betrieben werden und kein Unternehmen einen Besitzanspruch darauf hat. Die dezentrale Struktur von #Bluesky ist zwar ähnlich, aber man ist weiterhin vom Wohlwollen eines Unternehmens abhängig.
Some people think #Bluesky is “fun”. However, I find it anxiety-inducing and stressful. I’m not the only one who thinks so. A few autistic people say the same thing.
#Calckey seems “fun” to me because I can make it be what I need it to be. For example, it’s nice that I can create antennas devoted to my special interests.
Threads: I'm in a wrong party and don't know what to say. I feel awkward, everyone is so happy with their gym selfies. Everyone asking endless questions and asking things from the algorithm. Lots of people use it like Instagram, every post is a selfie with a meaningless caption. Some are copy-pasting the same sentence over and over again for each line. Endless quote-post memes... What the fuck is this shit I don't even...
Bluesky: A Twitter clone, but still very barebones. Notifications are still not working, there are no hashtags and I don't find any relevant content to me in any of the feeds. It's mostly Facebook-like what's up in life, furry scene and AI photos. No news, no tech/web scene, no nothing. Not to mention it's still invite-only and won't support ActivityPub (yeah I know the reasoning behind that but for me it's mostly bullshit, I look forward to trying bridgy fed).
Mastodon and the Fediverse: Here I'm at home on my own server. Most content, most features. A community is friendly but has also lots of nitpicking, some angry dudes. Still the most safest, most healthy and most customized, but somehow the most hated network elsewhere. "Too techie", they say. "Too difficult", they say. "No algorithm", they say.
Nostr: Kinda promising, but way too obscure, strange and even techier than Mastodon. Too much crypto shit.
Well, that's that. Sometimes I feel like Internet is ruined. But I believe in the open social web movement and I want to see this grow.
In no other place I can write a status update as freely as this, as long as this or with a low bar as this. I LIKE this 100%. The same can't be said in those other places I'm experimenting with out of curiosity. There I'm the weird kid. Here I feel like myself.
J'ai toujours du mal a comprendre la fascination pour Bluesky par rapport à Mastodon. Techniquement c'est quand même moins riche que le fediverse, philosophiquement c'est super élitiste de ne passer que par la cooptation et politiquement c'est douteux d'encore faire confiance à un gourou de la Silicon Valley.