Logged in to Stack Overflow for the first time in 10 years to check exactly what have I left there.. Now, since the few answers I've given are CC-BY, so they must attribute them to me, if I make a GDPR data subject request for them to delete all my data, logic dictates that whatever they think about text as personal data, they must delete the answers, because they can't attribute them to me as a deleted account. Right? #stackoverflow
Does #StackOverflow understand the GDPR? I will try out to delete my stuff and see if they will allow it or not. Because if not, they are in violation of my european rights to my data.
This Stack Overflow/OpenAI news is an absolute disaster and a dark day in the history of online communities.
It's hard to read this as anything other than Stack Overflow being desperate for cash. Reports are already surfacing about how badly they handled it, and I expect that will only worsen.
#StackOverflow mods pretending they don't know why people are removing/defacing their answers are the most pathetic lifeform on the Internet right now.
Stack Overflow, a popular forum for programmers and software developers, announced a partnership with OpenAI earlier this week, selling the site’s data, including users’ forum posts, to train ChatGPT.
Now unhappy users are finding themselves banned for editing their popular posts in protest, and even finding those posts changed back by admin – “a reminder that anything you post on any of these platforms can and will be used for profit,” concluded one. Futurism has more.
#AI#GenerativeAI#StackOverflow#AITraining: "Stack Overflow, a legendary internet forum for programmers and developers, is coming under heavy fire from its users after it announced it was partnering with OpenAI to scrub the site's forum posts to train ChatGPT. Many users are removing or editing their questions and answers to prevent them from being used to train AI — decisions which have been punished with bans from the site's moderators.
Stack Overflow user Ben posted on Mastodon about his experience editing his most successful answers to try to avoid having his work stolen by OpenAI.
@ben on Mastodon posts, "Stack Overflow announced that they are partnering with OpenAI, so I tried to delete my highest-rated answers. Stack Overflow does not let you delete questions that have accepted answers and many upvotes because it would remove knowledge from the community. So instead I changed my highest-rated answers to a protest message. Within an hour mods had changed the questions back and suspended my account for 7 days."
Ben continues in his thread, "[The moderator crackdown is] just a reminder that anything you post on any of these platforms can and will be used for profit. It's just a matter of time until all your messages on Discord, Twitter etc. are scraped, fed into a model and sold back to you."
oh, the faux-butthurt mods at Stack Exchange wrote me a sad and vaguely threatening email about my having deleted my answers from their site (which i did because they partnered with OpenAI).
i revised and expanded my initial response ("go fuck yourselves") and hopefully improved upon it. i'm still mad tho! time to take a walk.
@datn I've tried to delete some of my questions and answers and I get stuff like "You cannot delete this question as others have invested time and effort into answering it," "You cannot delete this accepted answer," "This question cannot be deleted because other questions are linked as duplicates of this one."
and LMAO just got "You have already deleted 5 of your own posts today; further deletes are blocked." #StackOverflow
Apparently I had a popular question on #stackoverflow (viewed in the scale of tens of thousands of times or more), however, fuck them. I'm "defacing" one of the questions just to check if that's what they'll say about it and then deleting my account.
It’s always slightly remarkable to see people’s surprise when some company goes ahead and does the things that it gave itself permission to do in its terms of service.
In the history of data, reuse is a constant. In human history, regime change is a constant.
Hence the extractive repurposing going on at #stackoverflow, #github & #reddit to feed AI and take over your jobs. (And countless injustices, like DACA used for ICE, Nazis using invaded country birth records to find Jews, etc).
This is the true “tragedy of the commons”: upon hostile acquisition, what was once a gift indicating membership, care, and community is liable to unethical extraction.
I was interested by the crackdown described here and decided to see what would happen if I deleted a few old questions. We’re talking four questions, 10+ years old, of questionable current relevance. Some I could not delete and so I recommended them for closing on the basis of their age. Sure enough, I got a 24-hour ban with a nasty message from the site, and got the dunce cap “Disciplined” added to my profile.
I was never a power user on #stackoverflow in the first place, and nobody was looking to me for advice, but this was enough to prompt me to delete my account. I’m not interested in having my name associated with this kind of organization. Frankly, I’m also not a strong enough #rstats programmer to take the risk of getting coding advice from AI: if it’s badly wrong, which tends to happen at least in other domains — rarely enough that people let down their guard, but often enough to be nonignorable — I might not know. So the value proposition of using their site is not what it was before, and there’s really no reason for me to stay.
"I don’t know why anyone would willingly submit more unpaid answers (or questions!) to Stack Exchange forums under these conditions. After all, huge pools of people in Africa and South America are being paid to write code examples for model-training companies right this minute. Why should I do it for free?" https://newsletter.goodtechthings.com/p/closed-as-unhelpful-an-elegy-for #StackOverflow
Stack Overflow bans users en masse for rebelling against OpenAI partnership — users banned for deleting answers to prevent them being used to train ChatGPT
The #StackOverflow#AI deal, and their reaction to the backlash shows, once again, that corps will gladly take people's good impulses (in this case, the impulse to help our fellow humans without expecting anything back in return), monetise them, and then act like the good impulse was meant to make them money, and that helping others was just incidental.
"Stack Overflow, a legendary internet forum for programmers and developers, is coming under heavy fire from its users after it announced it was partnering with OpenAI to scrub the site's forum posts to train ChatGPT...