kzimmermann, to til
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

#TIL about #AnonymousOverflow, an anonymous viewer for #stackoverflow and other stackexchange communities:

https://github.com/httpjamesm/AnonymousOverflow

The instances in that repo work well, but it sounds tricky to make it work with a redirector extension since every SE community requires adding a suburl to it. But I'll try to make it work and post my config here.

#privacy

Imoptimal, to random

If the previous survey results show your platform as discriminatory (or at least not welcoming) towards certain marginalized groups, just leave out those identifiers in your next survey...

Nevermind addressing those social issues, and actually creating an environment that would attract those people to be a part of your community.

#stackOverflow #survey #gender #race #inequality

https://www.viralnews.africa/stack-overflow-didn-t-ask-how-bad-its-gender-problem-is-this-year-11926.html

glitchead, to random

is offline from some sort of issue. Time to panic?

cheeaun, (edited ) to random
@cheeaun@mastodon.social avatar
mikemccaffrey, to random
@mikemccaffrey@drupal.community avatar

Wow, I really wish I had enough clout on to downvote and comment on this answer that says to refer to dependencies in terms of "master" and "slave". https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/25575/what-is-the-correct-word-for-dependee

slink, to email
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tobbsn, to random
@tobbsn@post.lurk.org avatar

The volunteer moderators of are on since the 5th of June.

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389811/moderation-strike-stack-overflow-inc-cannot-consistently-ignore-mistreat-an

The company running the most important resource for people working in tech consistently went against the wishes and needs of the community actually providing useful knowledge for each other.

This is not just about the reversal of Stack Overflow Inc's decision against AI generated content on the platform and the recent promotion of their own new AI based tools. This is about the central resource for sharing knowledge about so many things - far more than code or software - being in private hands. No one should be surprised about their decisions, their short-term bottom line will always be more important.

The moderators and contributors organizing themselves against the corporation they work for - even if they do so unpaid - is a huge step. And it is not just happening with

dynamic, to fediverse

Does a #federated alternative to #StackExchange exist? If so, how does it measure up?

If not, what are your thoughts on what it would take to create one? Could it be done on #ActivityPub, or would it require a different protocol?

(boosts welcome, as is generally true of public posts)

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

@dynamic don't think it exists (I co-maintain the #Fediverse-related lists at https://delightful.club )

I once found a Github #FOSS project that had built an almost complete #Stackoverflow alternative. Unfortunately couldn't find it later. It would be a great app to offer federation support. Your idea is good, and it can be generalized as a kind of themed PubSub fedi service.

There's a new #FediverseIdea initiative where you could post about this.. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

Kuipers_S, to random

Stack exchange moderator strike: moderators are no longer allowed to remove AI-generated answers on the basis of being AI-generated, outside of exceedingly narrow circumstances.
https://openletter.mousetail.nl/

#stackexchange
#stackoverflow

jbzfn, to ai
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

🪧 Moderation strike: Stack Overflow, Inc. cannot consistently ignore, mistreat, and malign its volunteers
➥ Stack Exchange

"Stack Overflow has once again ignored the needs and established consensus of its community, instead focusing on business pivots at the expense of its own Community Managers, with many community requests for improved tooling and improving the user experience being left on the back burner."

#AI #StackOverflow #Strike #Moderation
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389811/moderation-strike-stack-overflow-inc-cannot-consistently-ignore-mistreat-an

Jeremiah, to random
@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold avatar

StackOverflow is a hostile online community.

The volunteer "strike" in response to a policy change permitting ML-written answers made me wonder about ML moderation.

The site already is heavily gamified. Human moderators get Internet points for well-actually-ing, telling question askers they asked their question incorrectly, and prematurely shutting down learning journeys. Could ML trained on this behavior put moderator trolls out of a volunteer job? 🤪

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389811/moderation-strike-stack-overflow-inc-cannot-consistently-ignore-mistreat-an

timbray, to random
@timbray@cosocial.ca avatar

A little bird tells me there's trouble brewing at #StackOverflow
Tune in tomorrow.

alesegura, to random

Does anyone know if there are any groups or something of the kind for ? Where do you go for help when the AWS documentation doesn’t have the answer? (Which in my experience is VERY often)

alesegura,

@udondan thanks for the tip! I joined repost a few days ago and I think I will give it a try. I use #StackOverflow very often but never asked a question. In my head, by not being a sort of “chat” it feels less personal and like it takes longer to get an answer. I have no proof whatsoever! It is just my bias against it but I should definitely try. Thanks for the nice options!

Imoptimal, to programming

Useful reminder that technical skills are just as equally important as the #softSkills.

I'm guilty of focusing mostly on the #coding side of things in the previous years, but now I'm really trying to be business/marketing oriented in each project I do.

#Programming doesn't happen in a vacuum, but we need to be always mindful of the business goals we want to achieve, and be opened for communication and collaboration.

#stackOverflow #podcast

https://stackoverflow.blog/2023/05/16/great-code-isnt-enough-developers-need-to-brag-about-it-ep-571/

bitboxer, to random

Step 1: Everyone uses #StackOverflow to collect knowledge about how to do things with code
Step 2: Use #LLM to create a bot that answers stuff based on this data
Step 3: StackOverflow usage declines (already down 14%).
Step 4: If StackOverflow closes, LLM do not have new data for new frameworks to learn answers to common questions from.

Hooray, I guess?

kohelet, to programming
@kohelet@mstdn.social avatar

Imagine Googling something and finding a #StackOverflow answer that's older than you.

#programming #Google #code

LarsFosdal, (edited ) to random
@LarsFosdal@mastodon.social avatar
22, to random

I've wanted to write something deep and meaningful about this but I haven't found the words so here it is extempo—

Saw the headline, #StackOverflow is going to charge AI/LLM companies to use their database https://www.wired.com/story/stack-overflow-will-charge-ai-giants-for-training-data/

I'm not ok with this because I gave my answers on StackOverflow under a Creative Commons license to help as many folks as possible—I wasn't compensated for that labor except through Stack Overflow building and maintaining a nice effective repository for knowledge.

Today, "helping as many coders as possible" means giving my Q&A contributions to folks training LLMs. Stack Overflow charging for that feels like rent seeking.

If there was a way for me to mark my answers as "OK for LLM training", I'd do that—for example, re-release my contribution under Public Domain (i.e., "CC0" instead of the Creative Commons with Attribution and Sharealike license that Stack Overflow contributions default to).

I don't expect this to be controversial. I can see folks upset that LLMs are trained on your open-source code (I personally have released all my open source software into the public domain, but I'm incredibly privileged to not need funding from open source). But Q&A content seems different—the intention was to provide uncompensated help to the person asking the question and future visitors.

dsfgs, to random

YOU'RE AN who doesn't want to die a mysterious premature death. Have you considered at work?

The Invisible Internet Protocol has great tools that don't require javascript, from tools to a mirror (http://stackoverflow.i2p) to search services like , and and more. There's little reason to leave I2P, with repos, and , to boot.

Innovate while being — avoid being targetted for your .

davidshq, to random

when your own #StackOverflow #question shows up when searching for an answer to a #coding problem. 😂

sharearea, to random

Nice - now #StackOverflow, which almost assuredly derives the bulk of it's traffic from Google #Search, wants to take the #code YOU gave it for free...

..and make #Google PAY for it to train #ChatGPT

The era of companies cutting off their nose to spite their face is truly upon us..

https://www.wired.com/story/stack-overflow-will-charge-ai-giants-for-training-data/

jsamwrites, (edited ) to internet French

Stack Overflow joins Reddit in demanding compensation when its data is used to train algorithms and ChatGPT-style bots.

Twitter also made a similar move recently offering a paid API.

https://www.wired.com/story/stack-overflow-will-charge-ai-giants-for-training-data/

Jeremiah, to random
@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold avatar

Stack Overflow is a community optimized for well actually men who enjoy Internet points more than helping people.

Jeremiah,
@Jeremiah@alpaca.gold avatar

Don’t subject your community to Stack Exchange hostility.

Host a fediverse server for Q&A instead.

https://answer.dev/

#DevRel #DX #StackExchange #StackOverflow

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