This is demonstrably false. Almost all servers that de-federate Threads still broadcast the RSS feed of your posts. This is available to everyone, even servers that are de-federated from yours.
If you don’t believe me, test this out for yourself. Append “.rss” to the end of your profile URL (exampleserver.com/@username.rss), and see what happens.
Hell, if I wanted to build a search engine for the Fediverse and not use ActivityPub, I could use RSS instead and I could index most of the Fediverse – whether you opt into it or not.
Let’s stop spreading the myth that de-federation by itself prevents Threads from accessing your public feed.
Defederating #Threads will, however, stop Threads from drowning out the entire rest of the Fediverse.
The result of federating is that Threads is the Fediverse now, and the rest of us are just the silent periphery that no one cares about and aren't even allowed to speak to Threads users (the federation is one-way). This kills the Fediverse. Easiest #EmbraceExtendExtinguish ever.
> #obsidian works with plain .md files
No, it doesn't. Not only those files aren't following any of the stardard markdown flavours, but also obsidian doesn't even have official export to markdown.
That means, the moment this proprietary tool gets enshittified you might lose all your internal links and attachments.
Don't believe it? try to move to other note taker and prove me wrong
@balterwenjamin42@andricheli@macberg #enshittification usually comes overnight. One day #obsidian Wikilinks might not open in #Loqseq, APIs get paywalled, dotfiles get converted to obfuscated format for "your privacy and security" and you're one announcement away from being tied to a pole. But enthusiasts will keep saying that .md is an open format.
If this "privacy setting" for #quoteposts is implemented with it enabled by default, the result will be disastrous. :reisensweat: Since there is no other way to enforce this setting other than #defederation, we are going to see Mastodon servers strong-arming those software developers who are "non-compliant" by threatening a #fediblock. :reisensweat: Developers of the -key and -oma families will suddenly have to scramble to make their implementation of #quotetweets compatible with Mastodon's "privacy-friendly" implementation. :satsuki_sadge: This way of "extending" the fediverse is not acceptable, and everyone who has opposed #Facebook joining the fediverse due to #EmbraceExtendExtinguish should also oppose this issue which just eventually leads to the same result.
So according to Eugen, he's been using XMPP during a time when people let their desktop PCs run all the time, which is ideal for XMPP's requirement to maintain an active connection from sender to recipient in order to actually deliver messages.
But when the world transitioned from desktop PCs to mobile phones, XMPP's requirement to stay always on was just not practical, and the world moved on from XMPP and onto other platforms.
The only way people used XMPP was through Facebook and Google Talk, but the mainstream really didn't have a strong appreciation for XMPP.
According to Eugen, Email is still going strong because everyone knows how to work with it
Effectively, embracing, extending, extinguishing is just not a thing for email yet.
Ironically, Mastodon, which boasts of being free and caring for freedom, often ends up being fundamentalist. Herd thinking is inevitable when thousands of people identify with some. It seems that if non-free or centralized networks are on one political side, then Mastodon automatically has to be on the other side.
The biggest problem is not the algorithm or the advertising, it is not the surveillance. The problem is that we are the same ones who go from one network to another carrying and migrating our data and with them our biases.
I see people trying to make this place a kind of refuge from the burning world, but they bring the fire in their backpack when they come.
The main reason I joined was to follow programming and hacking people and topics, but then I met autistic people and people who are almost philosophers.
It's inevitable, we are like that. But it would be interesting to remember that the restrictions, aggressiveness and turbulence that keep us away from other platforms must be left there.
Maybe no one cares, but I still wanted to say it.
Because I probably will be part of an admin team of a soon-to-launch #Mastodon Instance, here's an article by @ploum on a possible outcome of #Threads "joining" the #Fediverse.
📦 Any recommendations for #FediPact instances? Looking for somewhere with a focus on either #FOSS or #sustainability in general.
Sadly moving on from @fosstodon after the instance admin @mike made his stance on the issue clear.
I try to donate regularly to my home instance, and I can't do that in good conscience while helping #Meta#EmbraceExtendExtinguish the #Fediverse so many people worked so hard to build.
Viele reden jetzt von #XMPP, nicht alle davon benutzen es wirklich.
Irgendwann werdet ihr Mastodon genauso vergessen, wenn der Meta-Tentakel diese Plattform entgültig durch #EmbraceExtendExtinguish zersetzt, sofern jegliche Instanzadministratoren naiv handeln. @milan traf eine gute Entscheidung als Admin von social.tchncs.de, Anfragen von Threads zu blockieren.
Zurück zum Gemeinten: XMPP ist nicht tot. Wenn ihr es so gemocht habt, dann verwendet es und verbreitet es an Freunde und Bekannte.
What is a good short book if I want to get really good at #JavaScript? I can’t stand video courses and I don’t need anything to teach me basics of programming or super beginner stuff.
TypeScript is #EmbraceExtendExtinguish in the form of a half-assed attempt to make a static language out of a dynamic one.
If you start with TS, you'll categorically miss out on the "zen of JS" - and you won't know where JS ends and TS begins
(Idk if there isn't some setting for TS to passively typecheck unmodified JS code though - which it should be able, to a large extent, by using type inference)
TS can be very frustrating and limiting and core devs don't give a shit
Here's a story that illustrates why I favour federating with Chains ("Threads"), even though I'm opposed to Meta's very existence.
Alice and Bob follow each other on InstaGrope. Alice, being more of an early adopter, signs up for Chains, and convinces Bob to do the same. Then Chains turns on AP federation. Alice realises she can still follow and talk to all the same people on Chains from other fediverse servers, and moves to one.
@strypey
You're right. I should have written "made irrelevant" or "tamed and turned into a niche". I somehow misused the #embraceextendextinguish mada infamous by #microsoft
Many people included me happily used #googletalk because it used XMPP. I wouldn't have used it if I knew they planned to defederate. I like to think that avoiding federating to #meta could make people conscious. Alternatively we could inform Facebook users but I fear it's an easily lost battle 😥 @snikket_im@lightweight
Motivated by @jwildeboer echoing my scepticism of whether Meta will ever open up Threads, federate, and use ActivityPub - a poll. Will Meta ever do it?
Ich bin gespannt was zuerst passiert: Bluesky kommt aus seiner ewigen Closed Beta Phase oder Threads erscheint offiziell in Europa. Jedenfalls glaube ich Twitter wird immer mehr User verlieren wegen Trotzkopf Musk.
A short, well written article describing how Open Source has been victorious over corporate "Embrace Extend Extinguish" in the past and how ActivityPub/Mastodon can be victorious aginst Meta/Facebook/Threads.
So, someone at #Meta, named Rachel, contacted @kev about having a hush talk. And now there's a screenshot of the message. What can we learn/infer from it?