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A mix of German politics, European politics and railways #CrossBorderRail. In English and German.

Eine Mischung aus deutscher Politik, europäischer Politik und Eisenbahnen. Auf englisch und auf deutsch.

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I noticed there is a train between Budapest Nyugati and Keleti stations that takes the circuitous route via Püspökladany. With restaurant car. Tempting? Maybe not as these areas of Hungary hardly are scenic?

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@tml the south bit of the loop as far as Miskolc is almost all flat. But plenty of towns and villages on route. Not super scenic. The north part of the loop I don’t know.

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Ringing endorsement of SNCF Infra here at Nuits-sous-Ravières. All the parts for the line upgrade works are arriving by… truck

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Anyone experiences of #brompton and #nighttrain they would like to share? :BoostOK:

#interrail

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@tml @xtaran @wmd Birdy. No issues at all - as it’s small enough to be considered luggage. Two tips: get a cover to stop grime getting onto things in trains (Tern Carry On Cover is my favourite). And get a small cable lock to stop it falling off luggage racks.

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@wmd @tml @xtaran above the corridor, in a compartment. Sometimes rather narrow. I’ve locked it on a few times.

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Trenitalia seeking more business in France

Good trains. Sensible company. Thoughtful offer. I wish them well! And some international trains - to Genova and Madrid - are being considered, as well as operation of 16 carriage trains to Lyon

https://www.railwaygazette.com/passenger/trenitalia-seeks-more-business-in-france/66351.article

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@wmd The infra through Nice is crap though, so I'd not hold your breath for that one. Paris-Italy and Paris-Spain are more likely.

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@wmd Torino-BCN you could do via Chambéry and Valence.

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Also none of this OUIGO “democratiser le train” bullshit the French are doing. Different travel classes in the same train, even with some adaption according to need. A standardised fleet of trains designed to be interoperable from the start. Choice of routes based on what’s possible & makes sense

This is sensible. It's not radical or innovative or super clever. It's doing the basics well and solving problems

And also remarkable, in that it stands in contrast to what many others are doing.

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@corentin You only needed OUIGO because the number of cheap tickets on TGVs 2nd class was very limited. My problem is not cheap tickets, my problem is a cheap and crappy only train run by the same company as the non crappy train. A student and a business person who wants a massive seat can both be in the same train Paris-Lyon, and it is more efficient if they are.

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@bilginveperk Makes sense though. Double capacity. One path.

wojciech_space, to random Polish
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>2024
>Szczecin
>ex-trzecie największe miasto Rzeszy
>brak bezpośredniego połączenia kolejowego z Berlinem
KURWA MAĆ NO

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@kravietz @wojciech_space because the line is being re-built. By 2026 it will be much better.

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And generally while I find Enrico Letta pointing out the lack of integration between Europe’s railways useful, I find his conclusion simplistic.

It’s a politician dude who goes capital to capital by plane and wants to do that by train instead, and makes a recommendation based on that.

That only gets you so far. Connecting capitals by high speed rail might be simple to say, but I’m not sure it's in all cases meaningful to do.

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@Zugfreundin Ich bin genauso fasziniert von all den Gründen und Erklärungen und der Geschichte von all dem wie jeder andere auch, aber am Ende komme ich zu einer Frage: Was tun Eisenbahnunternehmen, Regierungen und die EU, um diese Probleme zu lösen? Es ist ein schmaler Grat zwischen dem Erklären von Problemen und dem Betrachten als Entschuldigung für Untätigkeit.

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@tipjip You can have either. Whether you should adopt Line view... well, to me that makes no sense at all. Hence many of my problems with, well, French rail.

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When Enrico Letta speaks of significant gaps in Europe’s high speed train network https://orf.at/stories/3354759/ what should be built?

Rail Baltica, Lyon-Turin, Montpellier-Perpignan, Dresden-Prague, most of Madrid-Lisbon, lines across Poland are in planning

Ok, Ljubljana & Zagreb are hard. Faster to Budapest. Speed up Amsterdam-Hamburg/Berlin. Then what? High speed to Bucharest, Sofia, Athens?

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@notsoloud That is properly being worked on @cycletux

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@nehalem501 I am not sure you need high speed there. Electrify Dresden to Görlitz/Zgorzelec and you would have a decent IC connection already!

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@nehalem501 Well Frankfurt-Erfurt-Leipzig-Dresden is all getting upgraded anyway, as is Wroclaw-Krakow, although the latter only for 200km/h I think. Fix the Dresden-Görlitz part and you would already have the basis of a decent corridor.

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@nehalem501 There are already loads of works Wrocław - Kraków. There were when I was there autumn 2021. But I am sorry I don't know the details of whether those works will be sufficient, but my assumption is that - short term - nothing new will be added there until those works complete.

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@der_mit_ph Well to be fair the infra for that mostly exists (some bits as far as Appenweier are still being finished). The problem is a lousy service - just 1 TGV a day Frankfurt-Marseille. But for technical reasons it has to be a TGV not a ICE, SNCF does not want to run more than 1x day, and so we are where we are.

Letta's report says nothing about how to fix crap service on existing infra.

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@der_mit_ph (and I go far too often between Dijon and Berlin, and take a good chunk of this route you mention, and often SNCF tries to send me via Paris instead, which is absurd)

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@der_mit_ph Indeed, the problems are there in terms of service - but it's mostly not an infrastructure issue.

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@po8crg Sure, AMS-Berlin needs to split from AMS-Hamburg at Osnabrück, but both the Dutch part, and the German part as far as Minden (to Berlin) and as far as Bremen (to Hamburg) need some serious investment. Note the problem is not just German side though - speeds are lousy in NL too.

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@po8crg Sure, I don't disagree with most of these you're suggesting. And most of them are... 🥁... EU Trans European Networks corridors. Meaning the EU will co fund them.

OK, perhaps the TEN-T spec is too low (i.e. too slow) but the plans are not wrong.

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@po8crg And also then we need the Commission hammering Member States that don't meet their commitments to build and/or improve their parts of TEN-T (looking at you, Germany, and especially Bavaria). Should be top of the agenda for a new European Commissioner for Transport.

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@po8crg But some of the local stuff has been improved quite a bit - Arnhem to Germany, Enschede to Germany, branch line to Coevorden will also get fixed. The Dutch are doing better there than to Belgium where except the high speed line it's dire.

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@der_mit_ph the problem, generally, is with the public comms here. Railway companies will ALWAYS demand better infra. As will the firms that build it. And that's what policymakers generally also hear, as do we in the public debate. But the biggest shock in this work I have been doing the past 2 years is the number of places in Europe with rail infra that's adequate or even good, but chronically under-used. It's maddening.

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