Kennt such wer mit Anmeldeverfahren aus die nicht auf wer zuerst kommt gewinnt basieren sondern komplexere Prioritisierung erlauben? Ist eine Veranstaltung die sich wöchentlich wiederholt.
@TheSecondVariation Was die konkrete Umsetzung in Software betrifft, ist mir kein Free-Software-Projekt bekannt. Ein Anmeldeverfahren mit Scoring (a la CampusOnline) wäre aber eine Plugin-Idee für #Mobilizon, vorausgesetzt, es unterstützt, Informationen über User in numerischen Feldern zu speichern. Da tagge ich gleich einmal den @linos, weil das ein interessantes Projekt sein könnte.
#drogiblipie#drogiefedi
Mam grupę znajomych, w której dzielimy się na bieżąco informacjami o koncertach, meczach i różnych wydarzeniach. Obecnie wygląda to tak, że gdy ktoś znajdzie coś ciekawego wrzuca to na Whatsapp i chętni wpisują sobie do kalendarza. Pomyślałem, że #mobilizon się do tego nada lepiej, w związku z tym mam pytania do obecnych użytkowników:
Czy można stworzyć w tym własną grupę?
Czy można ustawić powiadomienia o wszystkich wydarzeniach z grupy?
Czy mobilizon synchronizuje się z kalendarzem?
Czy można importować wydarzenia z FB i różnych stron internetowych?
Dzięki Waszym dobrowolnym wpłatom możemy finansować wiele projektów oraz utrzymywać serwerownię KRK-DC, w której prowadzimy dla Was paletę usług, by wymienić m. in.:
Oferujemy tę infrastrukturę również dla takich serwisów jak: NoEvil.pl, WriteFreely.pl, Kbin.social, FOSSGralnia, Polesie.Pol.social, TePeWu.pl, SVMetaSearch, CesarstwoKwadratowe, OZZIP, SKK, Plony.org, Parasol.coop, KO-OP.pl i kilku innych.
Więc jeśli wygodnie Wam wspierać te serwisy finansowane przez społeczność na Patronite, oraz uznacie, że nasza wspólna praca jest warta waszych dotacji, to serdecznie zapraszamy ❤️
oraz oferuje własną infrastrukturę dla NoEvil.pl, WriteFreely.pl, Kbin.social, FOSSGralnia, Polesie.Pol.social, TePeWu.pl, SVMetaSearch, CesarstwoKwadratowe, OZZIP, SKK, Plony.org, Parasol.coop, KO-OP.pl i wielu innym projektom,
Hey #pnpde ! Gibt es hierfür ein Tool: Ich versuche privat einen wöchentlichen Termin zu organisieren, an dem Brett- und Rollenspiele gespielt werden.
Der Tag steht fest aber alle anderen Infos sollen irgendwo abrufbar und v.a. ergänzbar sein. Das heißt: Die Leute können mir mitteilen "an dem Tag bin ich am Start!" oder "an dem Tag bringe ich King of Tokyo mit!" oder "können wir an dem Tag bitte Mausritter spielen?"
Wie würdet ihr sowas kostenfrei und möglichst ohne Anmeldung abbilden?
Ho messo su una istanza #Mobilizon che riversa nel #fediverso gli eventi estrapolati dalle piattaforme di ticket online (ora VivaTicket, sto lavorando anche su altre). https://ticketzon.it/
How does the promotion of events on #mobilizon work? I post the event and then boost it from my Mastodon account? As far as I can see, @mobilizon itself doesn't have any support for likes, boosts or even bookmarks.
Venez découvrir ou partager vos connaissances,
y rencontrer les groupes locaux qui se développent sur ces réseaux,
Y FAIRE GRANDIR ENSEMBLE LA COMMUNAUTÉ NANTAISE.
Mobilizon의 봇 방어
Mobilizon은 페이스북 이벤트와 비슷한 기능을 지원한다.
당장 쓰지 않아도 봇을 꾸준히 조금씩 가입시켜두면 유용하게 작동시킬 수 있을 것이다.
서버들을 훑어보면 봇만 계속 가입하는데, 앱 자체에는 아이피 차단이나 이메일 도메인 차단이 없다. 상단 방화벽에서만 일부 기능으로 보호 수 있는 상황.
중재의 경우도, 이용자 목록을 많이 보거나 일괄 처리가 불가능하여, 모든 이용자를 개별 확인해야한다.
악의를 상정해서 소프트웨어를 작성함이 어려운 과정임을 고려하면 아쉬워도 어쩔 수 없지만, 페디버스가 성장하는 상황에서 이에 대한 메인테이너 합류가 없는 많은 프로젝트의 추친력이 떨어질지도.
Last weekend FOSDEM took place in Brussels, Belgium. However it was O₄FFDEM that provided the space for about 20 people to meet and discuss the future of events in the Fediverse for the whole Saturday. Among them developers like @lesion (developer of Gancio), setop (upcoming coordinator of Mobilizon), @dreirik (foss.events), @laurin (contributor to ActivityPods) and community members, (h)activists and event organizers like @becha or @eest9, just to name a few, and myself. Eventually, there were people from half of Europe: Montpellier, Strasbourg, Graz, Amsterdam, Italy, Vienna, Ljubljana, and Rotterdam.
Expectations
It was impressive how, despite the number of people present, it was possible for the group to de facto moderate itself, in particular through the experienced careful intervention of a few at the right moments. We began with a short round of introductions, in which expectations for the day were also clarified. We first decided to talk about values, to clarify what needs and concerns are generally present. We were all united by the desire to become independent of Big Tech, although there were several completely different concepts of how this would be achieved from a single point of view in the mix.
Dilemmas
It has become evident that in the case of events, from of a software developer’s point of view, one cannot simply speak of users, but must distinguish between organizers and participants, although the distinction can also be blurred in the case of a small community. Following dilemmas were identified:
regional vs global calendars
topical vs mixed calendars
aggregation vs autonomy
moderation vs censorship
Advantages of a physical meeting
The discussion about these aspects was extensive and, admittedly, did not always seem to me to be very target-oriented. However, it was necessary to balance our different backgrounds and bring us up to the same level of knowledge and it became more concrete after the lunch break when we decided to compare and work out the intentions and use cases of the existing applications and developments in more detail. I could recap this in detail here, but I think it is best to write a stand-alone follow-up article. Each project has its own approach: some focus on local communities, some focus on private events an another wants to provide a way to organize larger political movements with as few social features as possible. On top of that, people have come up with use cases that no developer ever seemed to think of before.
One activist’s question, “What’s the difference between federation and interoperability?“, which had been floating around the room all day, was finally addressed in a satisfying way with examples. Even if all applications can successfully aggregate and display events of others, it does not mean that they respect all mechanisms that control how the event is listed, whether the event is joinable via ActivityPub, whether these joins have to be manually approved, whether some event details visibility have a certain scope, etc.
Calendiverse
Perhaps one of the most important points was to enable the creation of event calendars, which are also aimed at people who do not want to have an account anywhere, but are simply looking for events. From the point of view of people looking for events, regional or topic-specific calendars are particularly important. Which events are aggregated and shown on an individual platform would be in the hands of the platform operators, which would then automatically play a major role in moderation.
Why use ActivityPub?
ActivityPub covers most of the features iCal offers for creating calendars by aggregating multiple sources, but adds a few more:
Follow relationships become tangible
Social media like features:
Boosting
Liking
Replies
Push, not pull based
Joining (Participants management)
Use moderation and governance tools from the Fediverse
Getting to a Common Ground
Mobilizon has already introduced a huge set of custom properties and ways to manage event objects in the ActivityPub world. We decided on a process to re-evaluate their choices and draft a Fediverse Extension Proposal (FEP) for the least common set of them. What makes an event:
Private locations which may be disclosed on participant’s acceptance
From Whom
To Whom: Public, Private, Unlisted
Why if not want to get listed just not “send” the event: e.g., Mobilizon -> federated groups -> federated private events
Let the sender of an event set the discoverability : the recipient might mistreat that
We decided to deal with advanced mechanisms such as sub-events, recurring events, irregularly rescheduled events in the future.
Summary
All in all, it was simply nice to get to know each other and exchange ideas with other people who pursue common or similar goals. Especially the exchange between developers and non-developers, who were in the majority, was of great importance from my point of view. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to capture all the aspects in such a short recap. If you are missing something important, please have a comment. Many thanks to all of you, especially the organizers and those who were taking the meeting minutes.
This time: #mobilizon. It's for "event planning and group management" and is an alternative to meetup and eventbrite, according to Wikipedia. Wikipedia also says that there's federation to e.g. Mastodon – let's see!
Very fitting fun fact: a typical part of the domains for mobilizon instances seems to be "fomo" :>
W związku z migracją systemów Mobilizon.pl pod skrzydła Fundacji @ftdl informujemy o oknie serwisowym dzisiaj od godziny 22:00 do godzin nocnych. Mobilizon.pl przez ten czas nie będzie działał.
Nie znamy dokładnego czasu zakończenia prac, poinformujemy osobnym komunikatem.
W razie problemów po migracji prosimy o kontakt z działem pomocy tutaj @pomoc lub e-mail: pomoc[at]ftdl.pl