raikas, to opensource

:alert: Software startup Skiff.com falsely advertises it's email client as #OpenSource

I currently recommend avoiding using, and/or contributing to their products, until they fix their false advertising.

They are actually licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA (Non commercial, share-a-like), which is not an open source license (as commercial use allowed is a requirement for open source).

When confronted on Github, the issue was shortly closed, saying that the libraries used for the apps are open source, and that they have no plan for allowing commercial use for their apps.

I pointed out that open source requires commercial use, and I got this reply from their CEO:

"Commercial use is not a requirement for open source software. Study the MongoDB case."

Didn't know that MongoDB is open source. Because it's not. It's source-available, not open source.

Well, can't blame for users not checking this. Even It's FOSS News publication (https://news.itsfoss.com/skiff-mail-review/) got baited. Startups are using open source software's reputation, without contributing to the community (by using an proper license).

Issue: https://github.com/skiff-org/skiff-apps/issues/93
#FOSS #FalseAdvertising #Skiff #Email

protonmail, to random
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

ICYMI, here are the February top articles on our blog ⬇️

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protonmail,
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

🍏 ’s approach to compliance analyzed: https://proton.me/blog/apple-dma-compliance-plan-trap

⏩ Guidelines for users: where to migrate ( https://proton.me/blog/skiff-alternatives ) and how to go migrate to @protonmail: https://proton.me/blog/migrate-skiff-to-proton

🏰 What makes Proton resilient: https://proton.me/blog/sustaining-mission-over-time

2 / 4

jgayfer, to email
@jgayfer@fosstodon.org avatar

Sad to see #skiff mail is dead in the water.

Any recommendations for a privacy focused #email provider that’s fairly priced?

strypey, to email
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

Sounds good...

"Searching through email content in an end-to-end encrypted email provider is no easy feat. Because Skiff does not have access to any user emails, all search queries have to be performed client-side. To make this possible, we’ve developed innovative search indexing algorithms that work in the browser, in Skiff’s Windows and macOS apps, and in our iOS and Android native apps."

#Skiff, 2023

https://skiff.com/blog/a-whole-new-search

#email #E2EE #search

Kuro, to random German
@Kuro@troet.cafe avatar

Ich habe mir letzte Woche den den Service #Skiff man angeschaut. Die Oberfläche ist zwar etwas angestaubt, aber erinnert mich sehr an die frühen Zeiten von OpenOffice/LibreOffice und ist vor allem im Gesamtpaket leistungsstark, auch in der kostenlosen Variante (inklusive Domainverwaltung).

Von mir gibt es zumindest ein👍

Source: https://skiff.com

caiocgo, to random
@caiocgo@mastodon.social avatar

I had an account at #Skiff. Just deleted it after getting the notion news. Sad to know the service will be now part of notion (🤮).

One extra reason for people to become paying subscribers (I am in the process of becoming) to services like #Tutanota and #Proton

tobleh, to privacy
@tobleh@sakurajima.moe avatar

Another interesting video from "By Default". It's pretty cool how he just suddenly appeared and made cool video after cool video 👀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH626CXyNtE

And fuck now I'm kinda wondering if I should consider migrating at least a few things away from Gmail :thinking__ai:

#Privacy #Encryption #Proton #ProtonVPN #ProtonMail #Skiff #Tutanota

blackwolf, to Notion

Skiff got bought up by Notion.
This means that all skiff users need to find a new platform.
Notion does not even offer an email service, so we just lost a big player in the privacy community, very sad that they made this decision. I have considered switching to something like #tuta or #proton.
From what i have seen we have 6 months to migrate #skiff #notion
https://skiff.com

ajkelkar, to privacy
@ajkelkar@mastodon.social avatar

What a joke. I don’t know how people didn’t see this coming. The red flags were all over the place.

https://www.notion.so/blog/meet-skiff-the-newest-member-of-the-notion-family

isaaclyman, to random
@isaaclyman@toot.cafe avatar

There need to be portability laws for email addresses. You know how cell phone companies are legally required to transfer your phone number if you ask? That, but for email. I'd have a much worse time losing my email address than my phone number.

#skiff

lea, to foss
@lea@ordinary.cafe avatar
themandalorian, to Notion

Not sure I'm thrilled with #notion buying out #skiff. I've really liked Skiff as an alternative to #protonmail.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/09/notion-acquires-privacy-focused-productivity-platform-skiff/

iworx, to email

Anyone using Skiff as e-mail provider? Feedback? #skiff #email

mitexleo, to privacy

Skiff is closing down it's product suites after being acquired by notion. Suggest a new email provider which supports mbox file import.

#privacy #skiff #proton #tuta #email

khalid, to email
@khalid@mastodon.nu avatar

Blergh, so Skiff is going shutting down and being merged with Notion. Expect a 6 months grace period before all products being sunset.

I saw this coming, thankfully I have my nerd-fu ready to deal with this kind of planned outage.

Happy to take recommendations for other email / calendar providers!

governa, to opensource
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#Skiff is a Dashing #OpenSource Secure Email Alternative to Gmail and Proton Mail ✉️

https://news.itsfoss.com/skiff-mail-review/

Morishima, to security
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mjgardner, (edited ) to Notion
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

Looks like #Notion, the hot note-taking outfit that charges for significant use, has acqui-hired #Skiff, the private #email service that gave most of it away for #free: https://www.notion.so/blog/meet-skiff-the-newest-member-of-the-notion-family

@skiff users have six months to migrate before it closes: https://skiff.com/data-migration

Dear freeloaders who keep whining that #ProtonMail doesn’t give you everything: This is what happens when a service does exactly that.

/cc @protonmail

#privacy #security #InfoSec

paulhulford, to email

The more I look into private and secure email the more I get slightly overwhelmed with information. There are many options. Before I take the plunge into completely moving my email and going through that hassle I thought it would see if anyone have experience with @protonmail, @fastmail #Skiff #Tunanota or any others.

Thanks in advance and please boost this toot so I can get many different opinions.

#email #security #private #safe

dhry, to Evernote
@dhry@mastodon.social avatar

I just do not get it. You can make multiple free #ProtonMail accounts, but if you install the mail app you can literally only add one free account to it. They support IMAP but you have to install this dumb “bridge” app on your desktop to facilitate it. Too much of a hassle to use this. Single account in the app is legit #Evernote-level bullshit.

mjgardner,
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

@dhry They are not a typical email service. @protonmail can’t read your mail even if they wanted to, even while stored on their servers. The bridge app decrypts mail for your IMAP client.

As for their free account limits: outfits like #Skiff have tried and failed to give away more while remaining solvent.

If @protonmail can’t meet your needs with your zero budget, take a closer look at what you need and what it’s worth to you.

governa, to random
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cryptpad, to Notion

📰 We could not resist chiming in on the recent #Skiff acquisition by #Notion

https://blog.cryptpad.org/2024/02/15/no-one-cares-intil/

coderbyheart, to Notion
@coderbyheart@chaos.social avatar

This is pretty wild, because #Skiff clearly started as a #Notion competitor (and I evaluated it as a replacement to use at #DistributeAid), and now they sold to Notion and will shut down.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/encrypted-email-service-skiff-gets-acquired-will-shut-down-in-six-months/

FaithfullJohn, to Rowing
@FaithfullJohn@mastodon.scot avatar

First go at skiff rowing this morning - here's the Eala Bhan being launched at Bendoran. Grand morning out! 😊

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