Skiff Privacy has been acquired, will be shutting down
Skiff has “joined” (read: been acquired) by Notion.
Skiff privacy is (was?) an #opensource and #privacy friendly product suite, featuring email, pages, drive and calendar.
According to their blog post and an email mirror that blog post, Skiff will be “sunsetting” in the next 6 months. In plainspeak, in about 6 months (no definitive date as of writing this post) Skiff’s services will no longer work. Users will not be automatically migrated to Notion.
Users must migrate/download their data, including migrating skiff domains and redirecting emails. From what I currently understand, email aliases must be handled by hand - so the redirect only works for the primary address.
Existing #Skiff users can't switch to #Tuta because forwarding isn't possible: if you add a rule for forwarding from Skiff to Tuta you never get the verification eMail(s).
There need to be portability laws for email addresses. You know how cell phone companies are legally required to transfer your phone number if you ask? That, but for email. I'd have a much worse time losing my email address than my phone number.
The more I look into private and secure email the more I get slightly overwhelmed with information. There are many options. Before I take the plunge into completely moving my email and going through that hassle I thought it would see if anyone have experience with @protonmail, @fastmail#Skiff#Tunanota or any others.
Thanks in advance and please boost this toot so I can get many different opinions.
I currently recommend avoiding using, and/or contributing to their products, until they fix their false advertising.
They are actually licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA (Non commercial, share-a-like), which is not an open source license (as commercial use allowed is a requirement for open source).
When confronted on Github, the issue was shortly closed, saying that the libraries used for the apps are open source, and that they have no plan for allowing commercial use for their apps.
I pointed out that open source requires commercial use, and I got this reply from their CEO:
"Commercial use is not a requirement for open source software. Study the MongoDB case."
Didn't know that MongoDB is open source. Because it's not. It's source-available, not open source.
Well, can't blame for users not checking this. Even It's FOSS News publication (https://news.itsfoss.com/skiff-mail-review/) got baited. Startups are using open source software's reputation, without contributing to the community (by using an proper license).
Skiff, il nuovo provider mail/calendar/pages privacy oriented, end-to-end encrypted che doveva essere il nuovo competitor di @protonmail e @Tutanota , è stata acquisita da Notion e chiude i battenti.
Così, di colpo.
Per carità, ci sta, è una startup.
La cosa che mi ha dato molto sui nervi è che il loro server Discord, dove c'era una community attiva, contenta e promotrice è stato chiusi di colpo senza nessun tipo di comunicazione.
@xylya visto !
É una notizia terribile, avevo puntato tutto su #skiff e migrato tutte le mie cose.
Mi toccherà ricominciare daccapo, e soprattutto, dare soldi a #Tuta . #Tuta é un ottimo servizio, ma nella versione free il search è farlocco. Questa limitazione per me è inaccettabile, ma allo stesso tempo, non voglio sganciargli 36€ l'anno.
Questo è il dilemma.
Sto guardando come fare email alias su Proton (cioè SimpleLogin) e, mamma mia era cosi facile su Skiff. Dovevo solo creare un alias domain (@qualcosa.maskmy.id o @ qualcosa.mailbox.zip ) e potevo inventare email al momento senza dover creare l'alias a mano ogni volta dall'app. Tutto arrivava a quel mio dominio alias. Su Proton invece ogni alias va creato a mano sul sito/app prima. Perdita di tempo incredibile che ammazza l'utilizzo.
La UX era cosi superiore su Skiff. Che perdita. Che peccato..
I just do not get it. You can make multiple free #ProtonMail accounts, but if you install the mail app you can literally only add one free account to it. They support IMAP but you have to install this dumb “bridge” app on your desktop to facilitate it. Too much of a hassle to use this. Single account in the app is legit #Evernote-level bullshit.
@dhry They are not a typical email service. @protonmail can’t read your mail even if they wanted to, even while stored on their servers. The bridge app decrypts mail for your IMAP client.
As for their free account limits: outfits like #Skiff have tried and failed to give away more while remaining solvent.
If @protonmail can’t meet your needs with your zero budget, take a closer look at what you need and what it’s worth to you.