Google Chrome

happyborg,
@happyborg@fosstodon.org avatar

I noticed recently that an old blog site of mine stopped loading its styles.css and so displayed see as a horrible mess. Nothing has changed on the site, just the browser.

The reason?

Today's browsers (ie anything #Chrome based) are becoming authoritarian about what they will display. This isn't a security issue, but an increasing stringency on something that makes no sense at all.

The solution?

Remove <!DOCTYPE> and pretend you're an old website, so they need to display as it was. 🤷‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

Meowie_Gamer,

@happyborg what? Why are they doing that? The modern web is dumb.

happyborg,
@happyborg@fosstodon.org avatar

@Meowie_Gamer 🤷‍♂️

Search for quirks mode and strict mode to learn more.

omgubuntu, (edited )
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

We updated our OMG! Ubuntu Chrome extension this week (cos, well, we had to - Manifest V3). Didn't know this existed? My bad; I've not blogged about it once since it launched in 2013. Details on the changes on the blog -> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/06/omgubuntu-chrome-extension-update

omgubuntu,
@omgubuntu@floss.social avatar

And yes, it's open-source, code on the Ohso Github https://github.com/ohso/

informapirata, Italian
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

A partire da oggi le estensioni di Chrome non saranno più le stesse. Manifest V3 inizia a fare sul serio

I permessi per le estensioni del browser passano definitivamente nelle mani di . Per ora solo per gli utenti beta di , ma nei prossimi mesi raggiungeranno tutti gli utenti

@eticadigitale

https://www.dday.it/redazione/49516/a-partire-da-oggi-le-estensioni-di-chrome-non-saranno-piu-le-stesse-manifest-v3-inizia-a-fare-sul-serio

informapirata,
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

@eticadigitale e ora, andate a saccheggiare il sito de @lealternative per installarli qualcosa di diverso da Chrome... 😁 😄 🤣

https://www.lealternative.net/2019/10/21/alternative-a-google-chrome/

lealternative,
@lealternative@mastodon.uno avatar

@edinbruh @informapirata @eticadigitale ciao la prima frase per Vivaldi è: "usa lo stesso motore di Google Chrome", se pensi però che ci possano essere altre frasi che possano lasciar intendere quanto dici dimmi pure quali cosi provo a vedere e a eventualmente riformulare il modo in cui sono scritte! Grazie intanto per i commenti, sono sempre benvenuti

Tutanota,
@Tutanota@mastodon.social avatar

Time to switch!

➡️ Google Chrome has started to limit ad blocking with Manifest V3.

➡️ Firefox and others still support uBlock Origin and uMatrix.

What's your favorite ⁉️

👉 https://tuta.com/blog/best-private-browsers

readytogoo_0,
@readytogoo_0@mastodon.social avatar

@Tutanota mi navegador favorito es mulvadBrowser y en cel Brave bowser

repost, (edited )

@Tutanota Unfortunately Firefox uses too much battery in comparison to Chrome (use case: student Google account) on Android

pointlessone,
@pointlessone@status.pointless.one avatar

(and ) begins phasing-out Manifest v2.

https://blog.chromium.org/2024/05/manifest-v2-phase-out-begins.html

This means, among other things, that uBlock Origin is about to be disabled in Chrome. Google will choose a different extension to recommend but it can not be as effective as Origin.

Following 's example, may I instead recommend you switch to .

Firefox will continue to support Manifest v2, and consequently uBlock Origin and other extensions that can not be implemented with Manifest v3.

Happy browsing.

ku,
@ku@c.im avatar

@GrapheneOS, is there any literature out there about how this will affect the Vanadium browser?

GrapheneOS,
@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social avatar

@ku It doesn't have any impact on Vanadium. It uses the built-in filtering engine and doesn't support extensions. We plan to upgrade the built-in filtering engine to support what we want to provide, similar to Brave. Any other features will also be implemented ourselves rather than by having people run third party code with access to their data. Extensions don't follow the standard site isolation model so they're always a downgrade in that regard for privacy and security.

nhoizey, French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

“netbeep: Chrome extension to play sounds on network requests, depending on request type and file size” by @combatwombat

🔗 https://github.com/combatwombat/netbeep?tab=readme-ov-file

> Chrome extension to play sounds on network requests depending on content type and domain. Higher pitch for bigger files.

Reminds me a lot of Tracker Beeper!

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/05/21/netbeep-chrome-extension-to-play-sounds-on-network-requests-depending-on-request-type-and-file-size/

combatwombat,
@combatwombat@hachyderm.io avatar

@nhoizey Yes, great project. That was exactly the inspiration: https://hachyderm.io/@combatwombat/112474280764368037

nhoizey,
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

@combatwombat oh! 👍

WhyNotZoidberg,
@WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social avatar

On PC it seems only #Chrome and #Firefox offer no frills non bloated #browsers anymore.

Maybe the Duck duck Go browser, but it lacks the things I actually do count as essential (syncing across platforms).

Anyway, all other browsers seem chock full of bloat, cramming the browser full of features I will never use.

nhoizey, French
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar

“netbeep: Chrome extension to play sounds on network requests, depending on request type and file size” by @combatwombat

🔗 https://github.com/combatwombat/netbeep?tab=readme-ov-file

> Chrome extension to play sounds on network requests depending on content type and domain. Higher pitch for bigger files.

Reminds me a lot of Tracker Beeper!

⚓️ https://nicolas-hoizey.com/links/2024/05/21/netbeep-chrome-extension-to-play-sounds-on-network-requests-depending-on-request-type-and-file-size/

marco_m_aus_f,
@marco_m_aus_f@freiburg.social avatar

@nhoizey @combatwombat People really miss their modems, do they?

nhoizey,
@nhoizey@mamot.fr avatar
beardedtechguy,
stu,
@stu@allthingstech.social avatar

Well of course #Chrome works flawlessly on my android device but @Vivaldi is still having issues

cliffwade,
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

@stu Nice! So you know not to update until the next update after .85 or whatever.

stu,
@stu@allthingstech.social avatar

@cliffwade correct

scottjenson,
@scottjenson@social.coop avatar

#Chrome friends,
I moved to a new Mac and found that Shift-Click in Chrome no longer worked. Turns out a fix is to turn off "Use Graphics Acceleration when available"!

But at what cost? I want graphics acceleration! I really need shift-click to work in text editing. What am I giving up?

And why in hell does graphics acceleration kill shift-click?

NB: Please don't tell me to not use Chrome. That's not my question.

develwithoutacause,

Anyone here seen #Chrome extensions with #DevTools panels just not display sometimes?

I'm seeing some really weird behavior recently I can't explain and would appreciate if anyone has experienced the same problem and could validate my sanity:

https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/337104322

tomayac,
@tomayac@toot.cafe avatar

@develwithoutacause Enough of my users did, so I had to add an FAQ entry for the problem: https://github.com/tomayac/opfs-explorer?tab=readme-ov-file#faq.

publicvoit,
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

"Strengthen browser security with Chrome Enterprise Premium"
https://chromeenterprise.google/products/chrome-enterprise-premium/

Therefore: With #Chrome, you only get a secure #browser when you pay money to #Google. Otherwise, you get a crippled product that exposes you to risks.

Switch to a #Firefox browser in order to get a browser that offers maximum #security by default.

#privacy

moskitokoenig,
@moskitokoenig@dizl.de avatar

@publicvoit Nearly 2/3 of all browsers used worldwide are Chrome. You are right: It is a customer's choice, however it doesn't make their behavior any better, quite the opposite: they are aware of their dominance and therefore deliberately exploit it to undermine the right to privacy.

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

publicvoit,
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

@moskitokoenig Don't tell me.

I've been using Firefox since the 90s and not using Chrome as my main browser ever. 😉

If Google manages to dominate the browser market >90%, Firefox will vanish and Google is able do dictate the whole web standard chain for their own purpose and profit. Basically the end of the WWW as we know it.

alainmi11, French
@alainmi11@mamot.fr avatar

Plus de 97 000 sites web affichés dans le navigateur analysés par des chercheurs de l'université de Zurich, en observant plus particulièrement les fenêtres de consentement pour les : 90 % de ces sites contiennent au moins une violation de la (absence du bouton pour refuser, refus non pris en compte, dépôt de cookies avant l'interaction de l'utilisateur, consentement implicite) et 65 % ignorent les choix de l'utilisateur.

https://eupolicy.social/@ilumium/112235832500838592
via @ilumium

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NilsRenaud,

@alainmi11 @ilumium
Et du coup ils vont porter plainte ? à la nyob.eu ? :)

ilumium,
@ilumium@eupolicy.social avatar

@alainmi11 @NilsRenaud Aaaaactually, @noyb has "developed a mass scanning system to automatically detect unlawful cookie banners and create complaints which are sent to the companies, giving them a grace period to adjust their cookie banner before the complaint is submitted to the responsible authority."

I guess it's more a matter of those authorities actually doing something.

https://noyb.eu/en/project/cookie-banners

darrell73,
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Oh, and, BTW, does anyone know what the crash dump logs browsers generate are actually used for? None of the teams involved in helping me troubleshoot my crashes seemed to be interested in them nor did they seem to have any idea what they would do with them.

matt,

@darrell73 If you're talking about .dmp files, I'm really surprised that the browser teams don't want them. Even as a third party I think I would be able to make some sense of a .dmp file from Chrome by loading it in the WinDbg debugger, if I know what version of Chrome you're running.

matt,

@darrell73 Actually though, I'd think Vispero would be in the best position to debug, since they'd have access to both the Chrome PDB files (which I believe are public) and the private JAWS PDB files.

perishable,
@perishable@mastodon.social avatar

W3 HTML Validator @ https://validator.w3.org is not working for me on latest #Chrome. Gets stuck in an endless Cloudflare verification loop. Works fine on other browsers (Brave, Safari, Opera, Firefox, et al). #bugs

jake4480,
@jake4480@c.im avatar

@perishable it's like Google is TRYING to write themselves outta the game. Are they SUNSETTING Chrome or something? Is it next for EEE? 🤣

castarco,
@castarco@hachyderm.io avatar

So... I'm... surprised.

It's obviously "not a bug", because both #Chrome and #Firefox behave the same way.

I didn't expect this, that a standard browser API would be so broken (I suppose that this is because of and old rotten spec?)

Anyone around who knows why they left DOMParser behave this way?

#infosec #security

» const parser = new DOMParser() » const html =

jonny,
@jonny@neuromatch.social avatar

@castarco
Wait that looks right to me? How should it behave?

matt,
@matt@oslo.town avatar

Every family member I have uses Chrome on their mobile because “Google” and pretty much every family member has over 100 tabs open at any one time.

And that’s not because they want 99+ tabs open. It’s because they simply don’t close them / practice tab management.

Like, it’s a little frustrating that they all use Chrome, but even more frustrating that Chrome doesn’t have the option to “Close tabs after {days}” option.

😩

#WebBrowsers #Chrome #Google #GoogleChrome #Browsers #TabManagement

jon,
@jon@vivaldi.net avatar

@matt @Seth @Vivaldi

Interesting and noted.

matt,
@matt@oslo.town avatar

@jon @Seth @Vivaldi Excuse the rough artwork - I mocked it up on my iPhone using screenshots 🙃 If it makes it into the product, shall I send the invoice to you, Jon? 😛 💸

benzogaga33, French
@benzogaga33@mamot.fr avatar
FrankauLux,
@FrankauLux@mastodon.social avatar

@benzogaga33

T'as oublié le lien pour la mise à jour:

https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/new/

paulthenerd,
@paulthenerd@cupoftea.social avatar

I think it’s a bit weird to be drawing comparisons between #Safari and #InternetExplorer. Safari doesn’t and likely will never have the web browser market share and thus complete dominance that IE had. Its market share is tiny in comparison. A better comparison would be the #Chrome browser and the engine itself built on (yes it’s important to include the engine too) and you’ll see that Google’s dominance is more far reaching than Safari on iOS and is probably on the same level as IE back in the day at this point.

The “browser choice” warriors love to focus on iOS and ignore the bigger issue of the dominance of the #Chromium engine in the wider web browser market. All it’s doing is handing the keys of the web over to Google.

Use Safari or #Firefox.

acdha,
@acdha@code4lib.social avatar

@paulthenerd @diazona that’s the big one for me. Safari is literally the only reason “web” doesn’t mean whatever Google wants. I support browser choice but it’ll be counterproductive unless it’s paired with a ban on cross promotion and a legal requirement that companies which make browsers have good support for competing browsers.

mike,
@mike@thecanadian.social avatar

@vivaldi Sadly as much as my move from the desktop version of #Chrome to #Vivaldi have been a resounding success, the same cannot be said for Vivaldi mobile.
Sync works really well but unfortunately it renders a lot of pages innacurately in both mobile and desktop modes. I'm on the latest Samsung flip, running the latest update. It's unusable for a lot of sites which means I'll have to find a different daily driver on mobile.

mike,
@mike@thecanadian.social avatar

@johnglass Mobile and desktop. Notice how the left side is clipped. Also can't set the filter as it's clipped as well.

image/jpeg

mike,
@mike@thecanadian.social avatar

@johnglass If I play with the zoom I can get to where I need to be, but then it's messed up for other sites.

mrcopilot,
@mrcopilot@mstdn.social avatar

Almost all of them qualify, ya slacker.

But please feel free to use as many resources as you can to summarize every article I visit TO READ IN ITS ENTIRETY & place it under my finger to increase your usage metrics. Don't mind swiping it away...every...single...time..at..all.

Makes us all feel more productive and smart.

santiago,
@santiago@masto.lema.org avatar

@mrcopilot Let me guess… this ad wasn’t from Google ?

mike, (edited )
@mike@thecanadian.social avatar

I was very vocal about my attempted, and failed migration from #Chrome to #Firefox as a browser. I've given #Vivaldi a chance and have been very pleasantly surprised. The performance matches my expectations and a lot of it's unique features are time savers, especially workspaces which is a better alternative to tab groups in Chrome.
So no tracking, as good or better performance, and great feature alternatives. So far it's checking all the boxes.

mike,
@mike@thecanadian.social avatar

@viq Thank you for the offer, but I've found an alternative that doesn't require any work to get to where I want it to be performance wise. I tried topic per window along with some plugins and they weren't really for me. Besides I'm finding some really novel features in Vivaldi that are proving to be very useful.
There's a screen shot feature where you can grab just a portion of the web page and copy it to clipboard or save it as an image. Super useful for me. Also tiling web pages is great.

EclecticLexicon,

@mike Just curious what OS? I moved to Librewolf and it's a bit too constrained.

davidbisset,
@davidbisset@phpc.social avatar

Nice. Google and extension that prevents the blocking of pasting into input fields.

https://github.com/aaronraimist/DontFuckWithPaste

kai,
@kai@ajin.la avatar

Everyone do your part!

#Chrome #Firefox #Google #Mozilla

clement_la_baleine,
@clement_la_baleine@mamot.fr avatar

@kai
Even better : don't access to Google Products, with Firefox !

kai,
@kai@ajin.la avatar

@clement_la_baleine this is the La Forge meme, not the Galaxy Brain meme 🤔

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