matt, to passkeys
@matt@isfeeling.social avatar

truly are the new lock in for password managers. I'm trying to be a good citizen and use passkeys wherever I can, but now I can't properly try other password managers without needing to create dozens of new keys. I'm trying Proton Pass now, and it's a major pain.

Extrapolate this out to a world where passkeys are the norm and effectively all of my accounts authenticate this way, and moving your data becomes impossible. :dumpster:

srueegger, to passkeys German
@srueegger@swiss.social avatar

🔑 Passkeys: Die passwortlose Zukunft ist da!

Bist du es leid, dir unzählige zu merken? Die neueste Technologie der verspricht eine einfache Lösung.

Aber wie nah sind wir wirklich an dieser Zukunft? In meinem neuesten Blogbeitrag werfe ich einen kritischen Blick auf die aktuellen Herausforderungen von Passkeys.

Erfahre mehr über die Zukunft der digitalen Authentifizierung. 🚀💻

https://rueegger.me/2024/05/05/die-herausforderungen-der-passkeys-eine-zukunft-ohne-passwoerter/

83r71n, to Cybersecurity

Google's passkeys, introduced in 2022, have become a popular and secure alternative to traditional passwords, being used over 1 billion times across 400 million-plus Google accounts. These passkeys, which rely on fingerprints, face scans, or PINs for authentication, are faster and more resistant to phishing than passwords. Google plans to integrate passkeys into its Advanced Protection Program, enhancing security for high-risk users. Additionally, third-party password managers like Dashlane and 1Password can now support passkeys, further expanding their use. The technology is supported by major companies like eBay, Uber, PayPal, and Amazon, indicating a shift towards passkey-based authentication as a more secure and efficient method.

https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/google-passkeys-update-april-2024/

jela, to passkeys German
@jela@social.tchncs.de avatar

Das #NIST hat ihre Richtlinien zur digitalen Identität für die Verwendung von #Passkeys ergänzt. US-Behörden können synchronisierbare und gerätegebundene Passkeys verwenden, um eine Phishing-resistente #Authentisierung zu ermöglichen.
https://www.nist.gov/blogs/cybersecurity-insights/giving-nist-digital-identity-guidelines-boost-supplement-incorporating

jnareb, to passkeys
@jnareb@fosstodon.org avatar

I'm very disappointed that passkeys (allegedly) got enshittified before I could start to try to use them: https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/2024-04-26-passkeys-a-shattered-dream/

#passkeys #Enshittification #passwords

schizanon, to passkeys
@schizanon@mastodon.social avatar

PassKeys seem like a bad idea. Google backs them up to the cloud, so if your Google account is compromised then all your private keys are compromised. I don't see how that's an improvement over password+2FA at all.

Now security keys I get; keep the private key on an airgapped device. That's good. Hell I even keep my 2FA-OTP salts on a YubiKey.

scottjenson, to passkeys
@scottjenson@social.coop avatar

Am I the only one confused by ? They feel clunky, it's not at all clear what is going on, and honestly doesn't feel any different than a password manager (but somehow worse)

I really don't even understand what is going on under the hood. Are there any good explainers out there?

grantpotter, to passkeys

If you really want put them in a password manager you control. But don't use a platform controlled passkey store, and be very careful with security keys. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/2024-04-26-passkeys-a-shattered-dream/

JetForMe, to passkeys
@JetForMe@geekstodon.com avatar

I recently implemented Passkey support in one of my apps, and ran into some limitations of the spec. I had no idea it was this bad.

I had assumed I’d be able to get my passkeys out of my Apple devices, but hadn’t put any real thought into that.

“Since then Passkeys are now seen as a way to capture users and audiences into a platform. What better way to encourage long term entrapment of users then by locking all their credentials into your platform, and even better, credentials that can't be extracted or exported in any capacity.”


https://infosec.exchange/@firstyear/112335226264184474

katzenberger, to passkeys
@katzenberger@social.tchncs.de avatar

@firstyear , the author of webauthn-rs, on #passkeys (I don't agree with everything in the article):

»starting to agree - a password manager gives a better experience than passkeys.[…]

Get something like bitwarden or if you like self hosting get vaultwarden. Let it generate your #passwords and manage them. If you really want passkeys, put them in a password #manager you control. But don't use a platform controlled passkey store, and be very careful with security keys.«

https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/2024-04-26-passkeys-a-shattered-dream/

kas, to passkeys
publicvoit, to apple
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

" Keychain has personally wiped out all my on three separate occasions. There are external reports we have received of other users who's Passkeys have been wiped just like mine."

"At this point I think that Passkeys will fail in the hands of the general consumer population."

https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/2024-04-26-passkeys-a-shattered-dream/

My conclusion would be different though. Instead of going back to classic , I recommend using hardware tokens wherever you can as 2nd factor.

hateaid, to passkeys German
@hateaid@troet.cafe avatar

yqUxBV#_\jfVyD!mZ8RH7]Te8jqKA![? – auch dieses Passwort kann geknackt werden. Deshalb bieten immer mehr Dienste [#Passkeys als Login-Alternative an. Lest hier, wie sie genau funktionieren und was sie so sicher macht: https://hateaid.org/sicheres-passwort/?mtm_campaign=tsp-it-sicherheit-passkeys&mtm_kwd=mastodon

Dieses Projekt wird unterstützt vom Bundesministerium der Justiz.

#Datensicherheit #ITSicherheit

protonprivacy, to apple
@protonprivacy@mastodon.social avatar

and have hijacked passkeys to keep users locked into their walled gardens.

Here's how we can make work for everyone: https://proton.me/blog/big-tech-passkey

nsa, to passkeys
@nsa@hachyderm.io avatar

New post on choosing the right timeout value in !

tl;dr

  • design your challenge-response protocol to allow for a very long value
  • whatever you do, don't leave it to the default value

https://satragno.com/blog/webauthn-timeout/

protonprivacy, to macos
@protonprivacy@mastodon.social avatar

ICYMI, here are the March top articles on our blog ⬇️

🎭 Now you can create hide-my-email aliases directly in the #ProtonMail web app: https://proton.me/blog/hide-my-email-aliases

🖥️ The Proton Mail #macOS & #Windows apps have been released, with the #Linux app becoming available in beta: https://proton.me/blog/proton-mail-desktop-app

🔑 #ProtonPass now supports #Passkeys on all platforms: https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-passkeys

❓ If you don’t know what they are, don’t worry, we’ve got you covered: https://proton.me/blog/what-is-a-passkey

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fell, to SmartHome
@fell@ma.fellr.net avatar

I stopped messing with client certificates and went back to good old HTTP basic authentication for my little digital light switch panel.

It's a shame nobody cares about TLS client certificates. With a bit more effort we could've gotten rid of passwords a long time ago.

I wish there was something like SSH keys for the web.

Yeah I know, Passkeys are a thing... but also not really.

#http #smarthome #tls #ssl #password #authentication #ssh #passkeys #passkey #https

ianRobinson, to passkeys
@ianRobinson@mastodon.social avatar

What account should I use as my first experimental login to convert to using passkeys?

PayPal?

I know you don't know what systems I use, so this is a bit of a meaningless question. But do you know of any popular systems that a lot of people use that now support passkeys?

Preferably ones that can be stored and used by 1Password 8. Maybe I should do 1Password first if they support passkeys.

#AskMastodon #Passkeys

fission, to passkeys
bsi, to passkeys German
@bsi@social.bund.de avatar

Nie mehr komplizierte Passwörter! Mit könnt ihr endlich auf sie verzichten – die Einrichtung ist einfach und die basiert auf einem kryptografischen Verfahren. Mehr dazu: 👉 https://www.bsi.bund.de/dok/1107468

protonprivacy, to passkeys
@protonprivacy@mastodon.social avatar

By popular request, #ProtonPass now supports #passkeys — on all devices, for everyone.

Passkeys provide a secure and convenient alternative to passwords.

✨ Save, store and edit passkeys in Proton Pass.

https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-passkeys

dominic, to passkeys French

Les #passkeys sont enfin désormais supportées par #ProtonPass de @protonprivacy sur tous les appareils compatibles et les types de comptes (autant gratuits que payants). Ne manque plus que la possibilité de classer les données par dossiers ou étiquettes (labels).

https://www.lesnumeriques.com/appli-logiciel/proton-pass-integre-le-support-des-passkeys-sur-tous-les-appareils-n219742.html

Belganon, to passkeys French
@Belganon@mastodon.social avatar

, le gestionnaire de de @protonprivacy, prend désormais en charge les . Peu de sites utilisent déjà cette technologie, mais le nombre augmente de plus en plus. Une nouvelle couche de pour vos connections, plus performante et sûr que la

https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-passkeys

mjgardner, to passkeys
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

Shots fired at @bitwarden: “And many #password managers only support #passkeys on specific platforms…”

When will we be able to create and use #Bitwarden passkeys outside of the browser extension? https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/112134037609531372

floyd, to passkeys

#Passkeys: reinventing TLS client certificate authentication that is proxyable and all private keys stored in the cloud and then of course the connection is only on one side TLS authenticated and therefore MITM-able from the other (aka proxyable, yes yes CAs and stuff but ya' know). Does this sound about right?

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