Just curious, with the recent demise of #Firefish -- are the forks like #Catodon#Iceshrimp etc viable / sustainable alternatives? Do they share a common base, so one could expect updates into the future if they to cease to exist?
@lps Firefish is not dead and Catodon is now rebased on Iceshrimp.
Iceshrimp dev is now mostly focused on the rewrite which won’t have any code in common with Firefish.
So I would say the most stable option still seems to be Firefish at the moment but I have good faith in the Iceshrimp project, but it is not yet mature at the moment
Alright, I know I haven't given many updates on #Catodon, because frankly there's not a lot to say. We're reorganizing, reprioritizing etc. Things are going slow. I haven't given up on the project, I think we have an interesting approach which is worth exploring, but we're short on human resources atm. Hopefully this will change and things will get exciting again, but we're not there yet. I'll let you know.
However, I wanna talk about another project I'm also sort of involved in lately - #Iceshrimp! So Iceshrimp also started as a #Firefish fork but they are currently rewriting the whole thing on .net/C#! Both the backend and frontend are being rewritten in C# - the frontend on Blazor. AFAIK this is the only fedi project written on .net and I'm really curious for the result!
This has been announced many months before, and Iceshrimp-js is in feature freeze, to allow all efforts to concentrate in the rewrite. Many people were skeptical because it's a huge project - which is true. So let me tell you that finally #Iceshrimp's rewrite will be entering beta soon - meaning, probably before the month is through!
This will practically be a brand new fedi platform, with a UX similar to Firefish (at least initially), with great Mastodon API support for compatibility with existing apps, hopefully with much better performance and a cleaner codebase. I'll keep you posted on how things progress!
@AmyIsCoolz I also think it's a super cool project! The lead dev really cares, support is great, and they are very transparent and inclusive with the whole rewriting process, giving updates in real time on chat.iceshrimp.dev/ . Very eager to get to the beta stage of the C# rewrite.
man man man ist das Anstrengend mit jemanden aus dem "Mastodon-Netzerk" zu diskutieren, der davon überzeugt ist, das mastodon die besseren Features hat als alle anderen Fediverse Dienste.
Ich frage mich nur, was soll das sein?
Die Software, die die BenutzerInnen am meisten einschränkt, soll also die bessere sein?
@2ndStar Mastodon ist schon OK, es ist nur nicht der Stein der Weisen.
Für 80% aller möglichen Szenarien, reicht es ja auch aus und man kann sich auch mit ein paar zusätzlichen Affengriffen, weiterhelfen @BrauchC
Soooo... I've always been transparent about the project, so I have to give you all an update, as we're in a somewhat tough spot. A few weeks ago we made this public call for a co-lead dev, but we didn't get much interest. In the meantime, our lead dev got tangled up more and more in other obligations irl and now has close to zero time, which means development on #Catodon has practically halted at this point. We had made and announced a lot of plans, but at the moment things have been put on ice until we figure out what to do next. We will make an official announcement, I just wanted to give this another shot - we are looking for someone to work together as equals on this. If interested in leading an ambitious fedi project as a developer, just drop me a line, let's chat to see if this could work.
I really want to apologize to anyone who might be affected by this. In the meantime, Catodon code will be kept up-to-date with upstream Iceshrimp, and catodon.social will be taken care of and will keep running, so even if you're running a pre-release Catodon installation you're safe - it's basically Iceshrimp with a few changes at this point. I'm trying to make the best out of this situation, I'm trying to consider our options, and hopefully we'll have some (better) news soon.
Hello there! If you are on #Iceshrimp, #Firefish or #Sharkey, there's a new security patch out so your server admin should update the software immediately. #Catodon has also merged the patch from upstream #Iceshrimp and catodon.social has been updated :catodon:
#Catodon is looking for a co-lead dev! They need to be comfortable with git, and able to manually install a Catodon server without scripts. All races, genders, sexual orientations welcome. No fascists or sexists. If you think you're up to the task, have some time and would like to be part of a team effort, let's talk! Find us on matrix, at #catodon:matrix.org .
There needs to be apps for #iceshrimp, #misskey, #sharkey, #catodon, and any other misskey forks that support reactions and full push notifications on iOS. While the webapp im using on my iceshrimp instance is okay, it cannot be a permanent solution.
Or, it would be great if @IceCubesApp supported push notifications for iceshrimp/misskey forks, but i'm guessing its a server side issue :P
We've experimentally changed the default reaction on catodon.social to a heart (from a star). The star is familiar to fedi users because of Mastodon's "favorite" and is somewhat the current standard, but is not necessarily universally understood as a "like" button outside of the current userbase - I remember when I first came to fedi, I wasn't sure if it was more of a "like" or more of a bookmark (where you can later visit a page with your favorite posts). Facebook uses a thumbs up for the same function and Twitter, Instagram and Threads use a heart. So I think that a heart would be a more obvious and expected like button for new users. We'll leave it like this for a few days, to see how it feels in practice and see what feedback we get - although this isn't a change with the current fedi users (who are already familiar with the star and may not see an issue with it) in mind, but mostly considering future members of #Catodon communities. And after all, we all could use a little more love in our day to day lives! :BlobCat_HeartHug:
Alright, I think we now have a better idea of what's happening with #Firefish, so I might as well give a small update. Kainoa quit, and left the project to naskya, who is a person I appreciate very much, as they've always been kind and polite and willing to help. I also think they're very devoted to Firefish, and basically were the last person actively caring about the project. As far as I know, they intend to keep maintaining and developing Firefish, and a new stable version will finally soon be released. This is great news, as you don't need to worry that your server is running unmaintained and vulnerable software. So, alarm off everybody, no need to abandon ship.
As for us, we're standing by our decision to rebase #Catodon to #Iceshrimp. The changes we want to do are long term plans, but we've started redesigning some things and, whenever we are ready, I hope we'll show you something worth your attention. So yeah, firefish, iceshrimp and catodon are all alive and valid options (the first two to be precise, for the time being). All projects share code fixes and I think we're on very good terms, here in our corner of the fediverse. Enjoy the ride.
@lewiscowles1986 only trying to give the facts =) Any popular open source project is rarely the result of the work of just its founder(s). It's fair to give credit to all the projects, forks and upstream, and to the wider community that helped in one way or another! @box464@blake
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At no point have I been anti what came before; but I am reading a lot of these replies; like "this person did not do the work, don't thank them". I'm sorry if that is not what you intended, but I can't fathom why else you feel I'd need to know more about this.