xmpp, to delhi
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

#XMPP Community

If you are interested in an event like a sprint or #meetup in the #UK you should participate his survey: https://my.liberaforms.org/xmpp-uk-2024

Address questions to: @mattj

#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat #Britain

xmpp, (edited ) to random
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The #XMPP Newsletter for May 2024 is out!

Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2024/06/the-xmpp-newsletter-may-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat

debacle, to debian
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

The git master of #Gajim by @gajim gets better and better. Now there are not only message reactions and message replies, but also an easy way to record and send voice messages! The next release will be amazing!

It is already in #Debian experimental for those who like to try it. Note, that the database gets migrated, so make a backup before running the new version!

#Jabber

veronica, to Facebook
@veronica@mastodon.online avatar

Ok, so I got the Facebook email today about the sneaky change in their TOS to steal more user data. This time for "AI".

That's it. I deleted my account. I wasn't using it anyway, but I kept it to keep Messenger working. I created a new Messenger account instead for the handful of cases where I still need it.

I had not yet accepted the changed TOS from last year, and had to "consent" to those outrageous terms too just to get to the delete button. Clearly illegal.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@veronica

Time to join ?

https://joinjabber.org/

@joinjabber

gnemmi, to espanol Spanish
@gnemmi@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Feliz de haber finalizado la traducción de #Monal IM al #Español ( #Latinoamérica ) 😊

Solo restan 4 cadenas por traducir, pero la verdad es que sin ningún dispositivo de Apple en la mano se hace muy difícil entender el contexto para hacer la traducción correcta de ciertas cadenas.

Aún así, logré que el Español (Latinoamérica) sea el cuarto lenguaje en alcanzar (casi) el 100% de su traducción 😊

Ojalá le sea de provecho a toda la comunidad de habla hispana! 🤗

#XMPP #Jabber #RUNJBR #iOS #MacOS

18+ jeremiah, to random
@jeremiah@tldr.nettime.org avatar

I'm early in my XMPP journey, but I'm currently working on a few chatbots to get a server to what I'm calling "Discord Parity"

As I understand XMPP and have my webhook bot configured is that the bot is a user that joins a room and simply is always passively listening.

Something I've noticed in the logs is that the bot receives the xml for all activity.

This includes the plaintext communications of people.

I haven't gotten to the step of setting up OMEMO encryption for the bot and this might quell my concerns for this bot which just forwards data into the chat.

More concerning is a planned interactive bot. Since it will be waiting for commands it must listen for messages, but I don't want it snarfling all messages up.

At this stage, I think our data is better stewarded and secured by us than Discord, but it's something I'm thinking through and would love to here from any XMPP folks in the fediverse.

#XMPP

kris, (edited )
@kris@outmo.de avatar

@jeremiah You don't have to listen to commands in the same group-chat. For example the bot could be configured in a separate 1:1 chat and only post into a group-chat. Another neat option is to allow configuration via ad-hoc commands and forms. A recent example for such a bot can be seen here: https://slixfeed.woodpeckersnest.space/posts/slixfeed-news-bot/ #xmpp #jabber

echo_pbreyer, to random German
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

🇩🇪 🚨Alarm: Die bisher auf Eis liegende #Chatkontrolle könnte von den EU-Regierungen doch noch kurzfristig angenommen werden. Der “Kompromiss”: Entweder du lässt deine Chats kontrollieren oder du kannst keine Bilder/Videos mehr posten! Lies alles darüber: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/lass-dich-ueberwachen-eu-rat-will-sich-auf-chatkontrolle-mit-zustimmung-der-nutzer-einigen/

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@echo_pbreyer

"Messengerdienste rein textbasiert zu nutzen, ist im 21. Jahrhundert keine ernsthafte Option."

Noch nie von , oder gehört? 🙂

debacle, to debian
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

If you are curious and courageous, and run #Debian testing or unstable, you might like to try the latest snapshot of #Gajim by @gajim. It features message replies and message reactions.

Expect bugs! This is not a release version, but a snapshot. It's called "experimental" for a reason.

echo "deb https​://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list

sudo apt update

sudo apt install -t experimental gajim

#Jabber #XMPP

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

#XSF Announcement

You would like to exchange on #XMPP, the standard, development and our community?

The take look at this page: https://xmpp.org/community/chat/

See you online!

#jabber #chat #interoperability #standards #decentralization

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The #XMPP Newsletter for April 2024 is out!

Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2024/05/the-xmpp-newsletter-april-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat

debacle, to berlin
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

Yesterdays #Berlin #XMPP meetup turned out badly for those #Dino​s, while the #OMEMO fish survived:

#Jabber #freeSoftware #vegan #xHain

badrihippo, to random
@badrihippo@fosstodon.org avatar

Does #XMPP need a more public-friendly term? People wouldn't understand email either, if you told them "please contact me through SMTP"

Yes we have #jabber, but that's not very self-explanatory. Maybe we need a more descriptive term like: e-chat?

xmpp, to berlin
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

#XMPP Community

#Sprint in #Berlin from Fr, 12th - Sun, 14th July 2024.
Several days of fruitful exchange and projects around XMPP!

Read more and kindly list yourself: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2024-07_Berlin

:xmpp: :xmpp: :xmpp:

#jabber #standards #interoperability #federation #chat #decentralization

xmpp, to Argentina
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

#XMPP Community

@gnemmi hosts the talk "XMPP: #decentralization, #federation, self-hosting, encryption and data protection" at the #Flisol CABA, #Argentina. Today, 1pm, UTC-3

https://eventol.flisol.org.ar/events/flisol-caba-24/activity/496/

#jabber #chat

christian, to random
@christian@suma-ev.social avatar

I used to think that are for the illiterate.

Then I got addicted to them in Signal and Matrix.

Now I can't wait for clients to implement them. Why is this still experimental after 5 years, @larma ?
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0444.html

rresoli, to chat Italian
@rresoli@mastodon.opencloud.lu avatar

‼️ Comunità XMPP:
📢 Annuncio: Eventi mensili in italiano sulla messaggistica XMPP! 🇮🇹
Trovate il video dell'XMPP Happy Hour di aprile nel canale Peertube https://video.xmpp-it.net/c/happyhour
della comunità italiana degli utenti XMPP: https://www.xmpp-it.net/
🌟 Unisciti a noi per partecipare alle discussioni, e incontrare altri appassionati di XMPP. 🚀

XMPP Italian happy hour
@nicfab
@mario
@darhma
@ndo
@xmpp
#XMPP #standards #chat #jabber #federation #interoperability

Ryan, to mastodon
@Ryan@mastodon.mackners.com avatar

Now I have , and in . Funny how communications on computers are easier to focus on without all the intense animations, colors and ads. I feel much more relaxed and ready to work when it's all texted based.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@Ryan

👍 for #email in #Emacs (in my case #mu4e) and sometimes I read longer blog posts in #eww.

Too bad, that #jabber.el fell behind and does not support modern #XMPP features 😞

(I'ld love to help, but my .el is far too basic to do any good.)

eliasr, to Signal

A question to @Mer__edith and @signalapp : when will Signal Desktop be available for aarch64 (arm64) CPUs so that it becomes straightforward to install #Signal on #MobileLinux devices such as #Librem5 and #PinePhone ?

If that is not happening, then why, what is stopping you?

The (wrong and silly) assumption that everyone must use Google/Apple phones is expected from Big Tech these days but you are supposed to be among the good guys. Please help us be free from Google/Apple 🙂

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@eliasr @Mer__edith @signalapp

As you write this on Mastodon, a free and federated network: How about moving the IM ecosystem to something free and federated, too?

There are multiple options. E.g. I use #Jabber by @xmpp since before Signal existed.

You still can use Signal using #slidge #slignal, an #XMPP gateway by @nicoco.

You even can choose a server that is not on Jeff Bezos' Amazon AWS 🙂

#Dino by @dino runs pretty well on my #Mobian #Pinephone, btw.

liaizon, (edited ) to fediverse
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

If everything that communicates thru #ActivityPub is called the #fediverse what is everything that communicates thru #XMPP called?

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@liaizon

I just call it #Jabber 🙂

Note, that not everyone limits the use of the term #fediverse to the AP protocol. Many apply it to AP, Diaspora, Matrix, #XMPP, etc. After all, communication between the "sub-federations" is possible.

ghose, to random
@ghose@gts.xmgz.eu avatar

:ynh: :jabberxmpp:

devs are testing as replacement for metronome to get better integration with the system and better compliance with jabber standards. Also new default features as A/V calls.

It's on early development, without ETA!!

great news IMO 👌

thank you 🙏 🧙

blake, to random

Oh hey people, if you know of a bot I can debug my ad-hoc commands and data forms implementations against, let me know... I'm going to need one.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@blake

I assume, that libervia-cli, the command line client of #libervia by @Goffi, can be used to script ad-hoc commands.

#Jabber #XMPP

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The Newsletter for March 2024 is out!

It's the 50th publication of the XMPP Newsletter! Let's and say thanks to all the contributors & readers! Join the community effort!

https://xmpp.org/2024/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

kyonshi, to random
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

Hmm, after having #nextcloud run on my #rpi for a bit I noticed I really don't need it. (Because the video chat just doesnt work as it should).
Maybe I'll just reset the rpi again and focus on some leaner system.

Maybe I'll try with #xmpp this time. Have to check if that has good voice and screenshare options right now. And maybe a web interface.

I haven't really done anything with that for a decade.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@kyonshi @Menel

#Movim by @movim or #Libervia by @goffi might work.

#Jabber #XMPP

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The #XMPP Newsletter for February 2024 is out!

Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2024/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #xep #federation #decentralization #chat

liaizon, (edited ) to fediverse
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

An important distinction is slowly being uncovered about the definition of the term "fediverse." Who is it that gets to decide what this place is? How are we being represented? These are not easy questions to answer and if we don't do a better job describing ourselves, then the job will get done for us by people who don't understand the underlying values we hold.

youronlyone,
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

@liaizon Personally, and the way the term was used, since it was first coined, was any software with #OStatus support (later #ActivityPub).

When there were discussions of having a new name, I ran suggestion threads and polls about it, and one suggestion/choice was mycelial, mycelium. I like it so I started using it myself.

By definition:

  • A mycelium is a single network.
  • A mycelial is a collection of various mycelium.

Adopting it to #SocialWeb:

  • The "Fediverse" is one mycelium network.o, based on ActivityPub
  • "The Federation" / #diaspora* is another mycelium network.
  • #Matrix is a mycelium network.
  • #ATproto is another mycelium network.
  • #XMPP / #Jabber is a mycelium network.

Together, they are called Mycelial Web. A collection of "decentralised, distributed, federated, and open, network". A subset of the Social Web.

A "sister", if you will, of the Mycelial Web is IRC and e-mail, as examples.

So:
I. Web
A. Social Web

  1. IRC
  2. E-mail
  3. Mycelial Web
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  • ATproto
  • diaspora
  • Matrix
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