I'm beginning to suspect that some of this #antizionism not #antisemitism stuff might actually just be antisemitism.
"Rabbi Yaacov Behrman, had posted video of the rally online in which protesters screamed at him, “We don’t want no #Zionists here.” One person told him to “Go back to your Shabbat tunnel, dumb f—”
A quick reminder to all that if you say "I support Jews but not Zionists", this is still a form of antisemitism, because:
Being against "Zionism" means you are against the existence of the state of Israel, and being for its destruction means the death or forced expulsion of 7 million Jews
It's part of the "Good Jews/Bad Jews" trope
That being against >80% of any group is ultimately indistinguishable from hate for that group.
article contains links to a statement by over 1,000 [#Jewish professors opposing equating #antiZionism with #antisemitism. Also contains link to a statement by Jewish students of #Columbia with the opposite position]
A debate about the differences of #antiZionism & #antiSemitism isn't possible @freieuniversitaet . Some might say that's corrupted by design, but I'd call it a classic conflict of interest.
However, #FUBerlin president prof. Ziegler published today: “This kind of protest is not dialogue oriented. An occupation of university property is not acceptable. We welcome academic debate and dialogue – but not in this form,”
Today, I found out that we (#BabkaSocial) are part of an ADL conspiracy to fake antisemitism to protect Israel, and that this is proof antizionism is not antisemitism.
"A #Jewish man who lost family in the October 7 attacks was jeered at by protestors who made pig noises and pretend horns while at a San Francisco council meeting.
The incident occurred on January 8 at a #SanFrancisco Board of Supervisors hearing scheduled the day before a vote on a resolution to call for a #ceasefire in #Gaza."
As someone whose family is paid reparations by the Austrian government for the murders of my family during #WWII & who once worked for the #ADL I have serious objections to the declarations & priorities of the Anti-Defamation League’s prez #jonathangreenblatt re: #ElonMusk, the #Israel#Gaza war, #freespeech suppression & #antizionism. This article covers IT ALL.
I can't sleep
"I can't sleep. I'm lying in bed every night, and images of Gaza are running through my head. Fathers holding their babies, dead, caked in dust. Bombs dropped on homes, on hospitals, on schools. Tens of thousands of dead in indiscriminate bombings."
Just recently had to break it down in a group because it's been flaring up, figured a post would be nice.
This may seem like a Jewish specific topic, but it is important for non-Jews to know as well.
Zionism vs Anti-Zionism.
First of all, if you're a non-Jew it's best to identify with neither as for non-Jews is almost always antisemitic. (And yes I mean both).
This is a one of the biggest bones of contention in the Jewish community and is absolutely a loud argument right now due to current events. Worse yet, it's generally so because of a mix of misunderstandings and extremism. Zionism
Originally this was the belief that the only way Jews could find some stability and safety would be to form a Jewish state. Once the state was formed, this turned into rabid support for Israel. For the milder of them, it basically boils down to patriotism... for the extremes it's nationalism
The loudest and most well represented of Zionists, however, believe basically that any criticism of Israel is inherently antisemitic, even by fellow Jews.
(How can this be antisemitic for non-jews? Short answer without derailing: Nazis are often Zionist) Anti-Zionism
Originally this was opposition to the creation of modern Israel, though each person had their own wildly varying reasons.
After the creation, many Anti-Zionists became Zionists. For the rest it mostly transformed into minimizing and addressing the damages caused by the creation of the state (ie. the occupation of Palestine). Many do dream of the potential of dismantling the state, but don't see it as feasible because creating a new humanitarian crisis to solve another isn't an acceptable solution.
They're generally painted by Zionists as if they want to abruptly end the state without addressing the crisis it would cause. (As such even mild Zionists often believe Anti-Zionism to be inherently antisemitic)
(Non-Jews can criticize Israel, but being/identifying-as Anti-Zionist is pretty much reserved for Jews; the exception being victims of Israel)
'As folks move forward in solidarity with Palestinians, either as individuals, small groups, or within organizations, we hope you ask yourself how you will hold the elected officials accountable who have authored the deaths of thousands of loved ones. You only need to ask yourself a few guiding questions: if I continue to vote and donate to the politicians who have enabled this genocide, what happens to Palestine? If I don’t pressure my friends around me to move boldly to hold decision-makers to account, what happens to Palestine? If I allow organizations to prioritize access to power over Palestinian life, what will happen to Palestine? '
From article;
To ‘push them left’ we will need more than protests
Following the passage of H.R. 888 it is clear that organizers and activists will have to adopt new strategies to hold elected officials accountable.
I'm really starting to wonder if maybe some of this #antizionism isn't #antisemitism might be kind of sketchy.
"There is support for the #Palestinian cause, and then there is vile, cruel intimidation of people whose loved ones have been kidnapped by rapists, murderers and torturers," he said.
"It is absolutely disgusting that anyone would seek to intimidate these relatives, who are already suffering the trauma of having their family members kidnapped or murdered.