PariaSansPortefeuille, to Israel French
@PariaSansPortefeuille@jasette.facil.services avatar

"[A] famous movie, Exodus .. tells the story essentially as a US Western, and so basically makes into a Gary Cooper film, where they're out in the desert taking on the the indigenous people heroically.."

discusses evolving Jewish American perceptions of Zionism & his new book : The and Cultures of
https://youtu.be/sYvhWfiuFjg
@palestine

plink, to Jewish
@plink@mastodon.online avatar

from
Why Opposition to is Not Antisemitism

article contains links to a statement by over 1,000 [ professors opposing equating with . Also contains link to a statement by Jewish students of with the opposite position]





@palestine @israel

https://world-outlook.com/2024/05/11/why-opposition-to-zionism-is-not-antisemitism/

gfkdsgn, to palestine German
@gfkdsgn@burma.social avatar

A debate about the differences of & isn't possible @freieuniversitaet . Some might say that's corrupted by design, but I'd call it a classic conflict of interest.
However, president prof. Ziegler published today: “This kind of protest is not dialogue oriented. An occupation of university property is not acceptable. We welcome academic debate and dialogue – but not in this form,”

The irony isn't just that he relied on to clear campus of in with @palestine instead of dialogue with , but that called protesters dead (if they would be in ) and in uniform protected lies and verbal hate crimes by . Instead pigs arrested chanting protesters brutally.

Take a look yourself...
https://www.tiktok.com/@mller.ali/video/7366343994512608544

br00t4c, to Columbia
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

▶ Antisemitism vs. anti-Zionism: Jewish students are at the forefront of Palestine protests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQDO5QAPKcM

Crowpine, to Israel
@Crowpine@mastodon.social avatar

From Reddit:
The truth on this issue is a one-way street, and it leads to antizionism, if you can just bear the horror and not look away.
#AntiZionism #WarCrimes #IDF #Israel #Gaza #FreePalestine

video/mp4

Orijewnal, to Palestine
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nadav, to random
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henrik, to Palestine
@henrik@social.spejset.org avatar

War on Gaza: UN special rapporteur accuses Israel of acts of ‘genocide’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epKY2ZzjZUc

mondoweiss, to Palestine
@mondoweiss@social.mondoweiss.net avatar

Haaretz is widely considered Israel’s leading liberal news source, but it has published and promoted some of the most harmful propaganda in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/02/how-haaretz-has-aided-israels-genocide-in-gaza/

#Palestine #Israel #Gaza
@palestine @israel

Crowpine,
@Crowpine@mastodon.social avatar

From @abierkhatib
When she became antiZionist in 1972, her father called her a “terrorist”

When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982,
Her father gave up on #Zionism & became her biggest supporter :)
#AntiZionism #Israel

video/mp4

remixtures, to philosophy Portuguese
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#Philosophy #Religion #Antizionism #Antisemitism #Weill: "Weil's philosophical and spiritual exploration spanned various religions, displaying a profound commitment to moral integrity and resistance against oppressive forces. Nevertheless, it is important to acknowledge that her stance on anti-Zionism occasionally veered into territory that could be perceived as perpetuating anti-Semitic ideas. Although hereditarily Jewish, Weil's family background and upbringing had no formal connection to Judaism or Jewish religious practices. She held that her criticism was directed at authoritarian nation-states and their potential for colonialism and oppression, rather than the Jewish people themselves. In The Need for Roots, she emphatically declared that ‘there is no such thing as a holy nation, emphasizing her broader critique of the misuse of nationalism to justify oppressive regimes. This viewpoint also extended to her rejection of the Roman Empire, which she equally abhorred. Weil's critique of Zionism can be seen as part of her broader condemnation of the authoritarian nation-state, which she believed had the potential to lead to the horrors of twentieth-century fascism. ‘Indeed,’ wrote Leslie A. Fielder in a 1951 issue of Commentary, ‘what vague sense of an obligation to Jewry survived in her was expressed in revulsion, a passionate anti-Semitism that upsets for once her cherished method of honoring contradictories.’"

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/the-enigma-of-simone-weil?utm_campaign=jacobin_sale_24&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

HazelWood, to random

This is a really interesting interview to watch if you are finding it hard to understand how the conflation between anti-zionism and anti-semitism is being used against those who support the Palestinian people.
David Miller's legal victory against unlawful sacking for anti-Zionism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX-SbjpXKZQ (30 mins English Language/ No Paywall)
#AntiZionism #Antisemitism #Apartheid #Zionism #IsraelIsAnApartheidState #StopArmingApartheid

Heidentweet, to Palestine Dutch
@Heidentweet@todon.eu avatar

“Decolonization Is Not a Discourse, It Is a Material Process” - Leila Shomali and Lara Kilani on Anti-Zionism as Decolonization

Great podcast by two members of the Good Shepherd Collective on the anti-colonial fight for a free Palestine.

https://millennialsarekillingcapitalism.libsyn.com/decolonization-is-not-a-discourse-it-is-a-material-process-leila-shomali-and-lara-kilani-on-anti-zionism-as-decolonization

The essay by Leila Shomali and Lara Kilani: https://www.ebb-magazine.com/essays/anti-zionism-as-decolonisation

@palestine

Heidentweet, to Palestine Dutch
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“Decolonization Is Not a Discourse, It Is a Material Process” - Leila Shomali and Lara Kilani on Anti-Zionism as Decolonization

Great podcast by two members of the Good Shepherd Collective on the anti-colonial fight for a free Palestine.

https://millennialsarekillingcapitalism.libsyn.com/decolonization-is-not-a-discourse-it-is-a-material-process-leila-shomali-and-lara-kilani-on-anti-zionism-as-decolonization

The essay by Leila Shomali and Lara Kilani: https://www.ebb-magazine.com/essays/anti-zionism-as-decolonisation

@palestine

imstilljeremy, to random
@imstilljeremy@babka.social avatar

Today, I found out that we () are part of an ADL conspiracy to fake antisemitism to protect Israel, and that this is proof antizionism is not antisemitism.

Mastodon is a great place for learning!

dukepaaron, to Jew
@dukepaaron@babka.social avatar

Which level of #antizionism not #antisemitism is this?

We're not even pretending to change #Jew to #zionism anymore. Straight to #Jews and #Judaism.

Is this the final #FediAntisemitism boss?

serge, to uk
@serge@babka.social avatar

The UK courts have decided that they know better than Jews on what is and isn't antisemitism.

https://www.councilestatemedia.uk/p/british-court-verdict-confirms-that

rameshgupta,
@rameshgupta@mastodon.social avatar

⬆️ @serge

>> The UK courts have decided that it/they knows better than Jews on what is and isn't antisemitism

I'm not a Jew, and I'm genuinely interested in knowing what is the problem with the #British verdict that #AntiZionism is not #AntiSemitism?

In my understanding, the former is a POLITICAL movement that was born in late 19th century in the crucible of Antisemitism, while the latter is a racial and religious hatred movement that's been around for millennia.

Thanks for any clarification

rameshgupta,
@rameshgupta@mastodon.social avatar

⬆️ @serge

From the linked article, I gather that the court protects anyone harboring #antiZionist views.

The author then says that is tantamount to the court "agreeing that #antiZionism is not #antiSemitism and it’s about bloody time," and it seems like you took exception to that, rather than the court actually drawing that conclusion

rameshgupta,
@rameshgupta@mastodon.social avatar

⬆️ @Nochem

Further up in this thread, you said:
>>And to make that leap, that Jews are to Palestine what Native Americans are to the US, is really quite antisemitic

So, what exactly is your point?

Are you in favor of #Israel or against it?

Are you making distinction between #Antisemitism & #AntiZionism (original point of the thread) or do you think there's no difference?

If making a distinction, are you in favor or against, & which one in which direction?

@lukevanin @TruthSandwich @serge

rameshgupta,
@rameshgupta@mastodon.social avatar

⬆️ @Nochem @lukevanin @TruthSandwich @serge

>> I am opposed to Zionism

So you're differentiating between #Antisemitism and #Antizionism, and I agree with you

>> there should be one secular state in historic Palestine that is based on human rights and international law

Given unbridgeable cultural & religious differences, this #utopia is not achievable

>> #SouthAfrica & #NorthernIreland offer models for going forward

Look at #India— how it's regressing from #secular to #ReligiousNationalism

dukepaaron, to random
@dukepaaron@babka.social avatar

I believe this is what they call "#Antizionism not #Antisemitism" here in the Fediverse.

:100_oy: :facepalm: :100_vey:

Heidentweet, to Palestine Dutch
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banned_tweets_of_john_cusack, to Meme
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dukepaaron, to Jewish
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Devil horns and pig noises. This is some of that #antizionism not #antisemitism right?

"A #Jewish man who lost family in the October 7 attacks was jeered at by protestors who made pig noises and pretend horns while at a San Francisco council meeting.

The incident occurred on January 8 at a #SanFrancisco Board of Supervisors hearing scheduled the day before a vote on a resolution to call for a #ceasefire in #Gaza."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12957865/amp/san-francisco-protestors-pig-noises-antisemitism-council-meeting.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12957865/amp/san-francisco-protestors-pig-noises-antisemitism-council-meeting.html

breton, to legal
@breton@mstdn.social avatar

Among those enlisted in Gaza, the top three states represented are (in order): Israel, United States, France. "I really wanted to take action, even though I'm not Israeli and had never been to Israel": (fr) https://www.europe1.fr/international/quelque-chose-dirreel-le-temoignage-dun-francais-engage-avec-larmee-israelienne-4211665

In parallel, more than 21,000 French people are present and active in settlements in the occupied West Bank: (paywall) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-07-25/ty-article-magazine/.premium/why-expected-wave-of-french-immigration-to-israel-never-materialized/0000017f-dc0d-db5a-a57f-dc6f11f00000

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