As always, I’ll be juggling coverage of Shouty McCokeFace’s testimony from mult sources; if you @ me w a ques, I won’t be able to reply, so please make sure to say “Not for you, Laffy” or, “For others to answer” or something. TY!
#DonaldTrumpJr’s 2nd day of testimony will begin later this morning. On the 1st, he tried to shift focus to his accountants—& the AG's counsel shed light on his father's trust. #Trump#legal#DonJr
Tim OBrien told Nicole Wallace that the kids are a chip off the old blockhead. Lying is their bread and butter. All. The. Time. So we know Jr talked to daddy last night about the case. Perjury is a way of life for the Drumpfs.
ETA: He also said that they are just as stupid and ignorant as Trump. Boggles the mind.
“The foregoing presents fairly in all material respects the financial condition of Guarantor at the period presented.” Don Jr. testifies that he doesn't recall this specific document, but signing certifications like this generally.
"I'm sure I've signed dozens of these [certifications] in my time as trustee," he said.
[Me: Sound familiar? Daddy Trump: I’m sure I’ve taken photos with thousands of people. I have no idea who this is.]
Don Jr shown father's statement of financial condition for June 30, 2017.
It notes the trustees were responsible for report at the time. Don Jr. became a trustee that year, the 1st of his father's presidency.
NYAG's counsel repeats series of q’s about Don Jr.'s involvement in the statements of financial condition for the other years of his father's presidency. Don Jr. remained a trustee for 2018, 2019, and 2020.
"Rinse and repeat," Don Jr. responds, w a chuckle. [Me: Asshole]
@GottaLaff
She's got him dead to rights with the paper trail. His only recourse now is to accept and undergo this humiliation until the last document. After that, it's Eric's turn.
NYAG's counsel Colleen Faherty continues to systematically confront Don Jr. with his signed certifications to banks and representations on statements of financial condition.
Trump Jr., in turn, continues to emphasize the advice of his lawyers and accountants. 🙄
Faherty is trying to understand if the Trump Org had made changes occasioned by their investigation. Following a back-and-forth about what questions are and are not appropriate, she is asking why Mark Hawthorne, who Jr. described as a CPA, is now CFO.
He says because Weisselberg left. And despite the build-up, she is done, and the defense has no cross. Don Jr. just left the courtroom, followed by all his lawyers, for a five-minute break in the action.
Don Jr. is off the stand, having engaged in a mostly pleasant and dull back and forth with the AG’s office that was no less damning. And now, we await his taller, younger co-defendant and brother, Eric, who just strode in.
Andrew Amer of the AG’s office is now examining Eric, but before he started, he asked that any lengthy disputes about evidence should happen outside the witness’s earshot and that Eric should be excused if that happened.
Eric is, as expected, softer-spoken and has to be prodded by Engoron to speak into the mike. He affirms he reported to his father between 2014, when he became an EVP, and January 2017 and confirms he did not report to anyone else.
Not for Laffy!
Eric may be the ehhhh - less intelligent one however, I also believe he knows in his gut that he will take the fall FIRST basically because that was always the plan... ... ...
And believe me, The Trumps have ALWAYS had an exit plan.
Weisselberg was at the same level as the three Trump children during his period, Eric confirms, and McConney was “directly under Mr. Weisselberg.”
Klasfeld:
Eric Trump denies involvement in the statements of financial condition:
"That is incorrect. I never had anything to do with the statements of financial condition."
That line of q came up when NYAG counsel Andrew Amer confronted him w this notation on a data supporting spreadsheet for the 2013 statement of financial condition.
But between Jan. 2017 and Jan. 2021, fair to say you ran the day-to-day operations of the Trump Org., alongside Weisselberg and Jr.? Yes, Eric says.
Eric did not report to anyone during this period, he testifies. And his father relied on him and the two trustees — Weisselberg and his brother — to run the business, although he took directions from his dad if and when they were given.
LOL I bet >>“Some of the best years of my life,” Eric says of his living on the Seven Springs property, for which he later had responsibility beginning in 2012.
Eric too says, “I never had anything to do with the statement of financial condition … People asked me questions all the time, but I never worked on the statement of financial condition.”
Asked whether he even understood his dad had a statement of financial condition as of 2012, Eric says, “Not that I recall.” He clarifies, “I don’t know what I knew at the time.”
(This matters because in his supporting data worksheets underlying the statements of financial condition, McConney cited phone conversations with Eric in 2012 and 2013 as the basis for the valuation of Seven Springs.)
24/ [btw, I bracket my own comments like this, & usually start w/ "Me:..." to differentiate. Or I >> at a quote. Emojis are mine.]
Rubin:
Amer moves on to discuss Trump’s Charlotte, NC golf club, which was acquired in 2012. A board member of that club shared with Eric in Jan. 2012 a letter sent to club members on the prior day about the potential purchase of that club by the Trump Org.
Eric recalls club members had to approve the sale by a vote & were told their options included the sale of club assets to the Trump Org. That letter also states “Trump drafted a few and approved all statements related to that offer.”
Eric remembers being a key negotiator of that deal but does not recall whether he was involved in drafting or reviewing the statements made as part of the offer. He says, “It would depend on the statements.”
@GottaLaff. Christ Almighty! Apparently, any set of morons can run a mult- million maybe multi-billion) $ business. Who knew? All those poor suckers wasting their time on MBAs 😜
@GottaLaff NO RESPONSE needed - just a comment: my fav parts of your coverage - which is heroic- are the (me) followed by the snarky comment I, too, am thinking upon reading it ☺️
(The import of this line of questioning is not readily apparent to me, given that the transaction took place in 2012, but my guess is that it is designed to show Eric’s awareness and access to representations about his net worth dating back to well before the statute of limitations kick in.”)
Amer shows Eric a summary of the due diligence done by the club members about Trump’s financial condition. Eric says he can’t confirm language referring to a “financial statement prepared by a CPA firm reflecting Donald Trump’s net worth” is about the statements of financial condition.
That summary further states “the cash and cash equivalents was in the hundreds of millions. The assets in the billion of dollars were more than 10 times the liabilities on the financial statement.”
[Me: DRINK!] Eric does not recall whether he helped arrange for that member to review Trump’s statement of financial condition. Amer now shows him an email from the member to Eric and Weisselberg reflecting his travel to the Trump Org. to review that information.
Eric still does not recall the meeting, but doesn’t dispute it happened. Eric also told Weisselberg in a Feb. 2012 email that the deal was “on the one yard line.” Eric confirms he wanted to get it done.
For others keeping track of the drinking game rules, if he doesn't recall the conversation, sure, that's one drink, but do you need to drink again when he doesn't remember even with documentary evidence? Like, is that a twofer? I want to play by the rules, but also don't want to get hurt... 🤣
30/ Klasfeld hasn't posted for awhile. I may just stick with Lisa Rubin. She's so thorough. If Klasfeld adds anything, I'll post.
Reminder: Emojis mine.
Rubin:
Now Amer moves on to further emails between that member, Weisselberg and Eric about the member’s due diligence as to Trump’s financial condition. Eric’s response to the member reflects — 👉🏼despite his lack of recollection now 👈🏼— that he reviewed the due diligence summary.
Eric’s response shows some pique: They showed him the financials in person because of their sensitivity and that he was “bound by confidentiality.”
Eric asks in the email for the member’s assurance that the due diligence summary will not be distributed and that he would limit communications to assuring members that Trump had the financial wherewithal to make the purchase.
Eric confirms they would want to keep them confidential, “no different than any other private company in the world.” He says he wouldn’t have wanted 1200 people to have access to the financials.
Amer is asking Eric whether
by 2012, he was aware that the Trump Org was using the statements of financial condition to demonstrate the company’s financial wherewithal to a third party,
Eric is steadfast: The member met with Weisselberg; “that’s not what I did at the company.”
33/ Klasfeld is back. Some redundancy here bc I'm sharing multi reports:
Eric Trump is shown an email chain about the purchase of North Carolina golf club.
Allen Weisselberg asked Eric Trump on Feb. 12, 2012:
“Before I respond I want to make sure you and your dad are still going forward with this deal. Your dad did not sound very upbeat about the deal. He spoke about how little we would make and that he did not see himself going to NC etc.”
👉🏼Amer is incredulous. You had no idea you had no financials the member was looking at as part of his due diligence? That’s your testimony? Eric says yes, he knew he was looking at “financials” but he did not understand what specifically he was looking at.👈🏼
“Can we at least agree that by 2012, you were aware the company had personal financials to demonstrate to third parties that the company had the financial wherewithal?”
And Eric’s answer amounts to a no: “I was not aware of the statements of financial condition, I did not work on the statements of financial condition. I have been very clear about that.”
Amer asks whether it’s true that McConney specifically represented to Eric that he needed information about the value of Seven Springs for his dad’s statements of financial condition.
👉🏼Eric says no. But here comes the email proof.👈🏼
McConney told Eric expressly in 8/20/13 email, in connection w a call between them reflected in the work papers, that he needed assistance w valuing 7 Springs for his father’s statement of financial condition. And McConney attached an excerpt from his supporting data spreadsheet.
So Eric now admits that by Aug 2013, he had seen portions of work papers underlying the statement of finan condition & he mustv been aware of existence of the statements of final condition.
Looking at spreadsheet, Eric testifies he easily cd have given McConney the facts abt which portions of the parcels are to be developed/used but says the value seems to have been determined the prior year, prior to his involvement in the project.
“I think it’s established that this predated me…At least that’s not I’m reading this.” Amer explains he just wants to know whether the detail about the 7 mansions was within his knowledge at that time. Eric says yes.
Amer goes back to the email: McConney tells you that he needed your help in valuing Seven Springs. It’s a fact, isn’t it, you knew your father’s statement of financial condition was provided to a bank well before then, in Feb. 2012? “Not to my recollection.”
42/ [Loving the old "Oh yeah? Well here's the email, Dimwit McTrumpKlan!"]
Rubin:
Amer then takes out a 2012 email between an employee of First National Bank of Long Island and Weisselberg that the latter forwards to Eric, along with an attached confidentiality agreement.
“The chance of my reading a confidentiality agreement that I didn’t execute is close to zero,” Eric states, 👉🏼even though he admits he received it and it references Donald Trump’s statement of financial condition.👈🏼
Eric finally cracks a little, raising his voice in saying, “We are a major corporation. Of course we had financial statements!”
👉🏼And finally, Amer gets the admission he wants: that at least by the time of his 2013 communications with McConney, Eric understood that his father had statements of financial condition with which his help was needed.👈🏼 #WompWomp
@GottaLaff sigh...they never learn that the admission is inevitable, and delaying it is just going to make it more painful. The judge is judging his obstreperousness. Every minute of stonewalling counts against him.
Thanks for all the posts! No need to reply. I'll go sweep some leaves and then come back for more of Super Eric the wonder business boy. The judge must be shaking his head in amazement. I am.
Eric Trump is back on the stand at the New York Attorney General’s civil fraud trial, and👉🏼 his temper is flaring👈🏼, saying where he thinks “we’re getting tripped up” is that he did not register that the questions McConney was asking were for statements of financial condition.
Amer insists on a yes or no question; 👉 Eric concedes it appears he knew he was being asked for assistance with his father’s annual financial statements.👈
Later in Apr. 2013, Weisselberg tells Eric in an email that Amer shows him that he wants to delay paying off a loan in connection with Seven Springs 👉🏼to keep the cash balance in his dad’s financial statements were as high as possible.
Eric admits that he understood as of the date of that email that the statements were prepared as of 6/30 of each year and that it had a cash balance component.
Amer persists, “You understood as of the date of this email that your father had an annual financial statement that included liquidity as well as his overall net worth?” 👉🏼Eric: Yes. 👈🏼
Now, they are looking at a July 2013 email exchange between Weisselberg and Eric about the Trump Las Vegas project. In it, Weisselberg told Eric that his dad’s financial statement was needed to secure a line of credit; Eric replied they would not need a line of credit and emphasizes this now.
>>“You read it, right?” Eric acknowledges he did and that by reading it, he would have understood that the Trump Org. was contemplating giving a bank Trump’s statement of financial condition.
Amer moves on to a 2013 email between McConney and Eric in which McConney asks for input on the footnotes of statement of financial condition. Eric says yes, maintaining that it would have been information about two golf properties he was working on.
Amer is asking whether he understood, based on the email, that McConney sent him a portion of his dad’s statements of financial condition.
Eric won’t give that and just says he understood his input was being solicited before finally admitting he understood McConney attached a portion of his dad’s draft financial statement.
>>Now Amer is showing Eric video excerpts from his deposition, where he says he does not recall ever seeing or working on statements of financial condition before this case arose. (Amer is not shown, but it appears he took the deposition as well.)
“To the best of my knowledge, it’s not something I saw… it’s just not in the purview of what I do.”
But he does admit — in contrast to his sworn deposition testimony — that he knew as of August 2013 that McConney was soliciting information from him for use in the statements of financial condition.
Amer: Will you now agree that you knew about the backup for the statements of financial condition? Eric tries to provide some caveats around the admission,👉🏼 but says yes.
At his deposition, Eric testified that he never had an understanding when speaking to McConney that he was seeking information for the statements of financial condition.
💡Eric now testifies that it did not register with him then, but it now appears that he did know.💡
Amer objects to the speechifying. Engoron agrees. Amer tells Eric, “Your lawyers will have an opportunity to question you. They might not take it, but they’ll have it.”
Now we’re talking about the conservation easement donation on the Seven Springs property, in which Eric played a key role.
Amer is now trying to establish that that donation was contemplated for some time, showing Eric a 2012 letter through which a law firm retained an appraiser’s services in connection with discussions about an easement.
(The law firm involved was where Trump outside tax lawyer Sherri Dillon was then practicing.)
Donald Trump, their father, has not showed here to watch his sons testify so far.
Eric Trump is back on the stand after lunch, and this is getting ugly. The AG's office is juxtaposing a series of documents with what Eric said during his sworn deposition and what is saying now. There seems to be contradiction after contradiction.
Amer is now trying to get into an email between Dillon’s colleague, another lawyer representing Trump the elder, and the appraiser. Trump’s side objects on hearsay grounds; Amer is ready with the rule that permits the admission of conversations between and among a party’s agent.
Notwithstanding the appraiser’s view of the value per lot at Seven Springs, the spreadsheet prepared months later does not appear reflect any of the information obtained from the appraiser.
We are now, at long last, talking about Trump’s securing appraisal services from David McArdle of Cushman & Wakefield. Eric insists Sherri Dillon was closer to this process,
👉🏼another indicator of their “blame the (now-fired/resigned) experts” strategy.👈🏼
@GottaLaff Great. Nothing Eric did or did not do is his fault. He cannot even remember which part of the Trump organization employs him. Either he is a completely willing stooge for daddy or one of the dumbest humans still in "business." After this performance, he couldn't get hired to run a no name convenience store.
@GottaLaff so we've collectively agreed that there's no level of lying or dishonesty under oath that will lead to a perjury charge, making the oath and the entirety of depositions and testimony a farse.
Eric affirms that in 2015, he directed Sherri Dillon to get that appraisal finalized so they could complete the donation by the end of the year.
>>I suspect Amer will ultimately force an admission that the resulting appraisal was discarded and/or discounted by the Trump Org., and concealed from Mazars and others in order to inflate Trump’s net worth.
We’re in last stretch of Trump trial testimony for today w Eric still on stand about appraisal of another property: Trump Briarcliff, where the org was planning to build 70-something residential units.
As with most of what we’ve seen today, this occurred before the statute of limitations started to run—but to the extent the related valuations are incorporated in statements of financial condition for years to come, they are relevant to the AG’s remaining claims as well as relief.
Amer just shows Eric an email where the appraiser says, per a conversation with Eric, that he intends to perform a discounted cash flow analysis to reflect the expected income from the as-yet unbuilt units. Eric says he didn’t understand what method would be used.
(Spoiler: The ultimate valuation did not, in fact, discount that projected income but valued the units as if the income could be realized immediately and without any deduction for costs of building, marketing, etc.)
Appraiser tells Eric over email he’ll be doing a discounted cash flow analysis & looks fwd to receiving comparable sales figures, which Eric then receives from Trump International Realty staff and forwards to the appraiser. Eric disputes none of this.
By September 2013, the appraiser writes to Eric and says he’s ready to share his valuation conclusions. 👉🏼Eric doesn’t recall whether any call happened nor does he have any recollection “of this whole subject,” he testifies.👈🏼 [Drink!]
The appraiser later says he’s holding off on sending a written appraisal per his conversation with Sherri Dillon. Hmmmm.
At the time, the appraiser told Dillon the “more supportable value” was $45 million and that Dillon indicated Eric learned that and was pleased. 👉 Eric again has zero recollection of this. [Drink!.. Hic!]
He doesn’t remember whether it was his decision to hold off on the written appraisal. But Amer shows him the supporting worksheet for the statement of financial condition reflecting that the value of the sell-out was based on comps, as learned from a conversation with Eric.
68/ We're now at the pathetic liar Schmucky McNoBrain saying "I'm the sponge and you're the glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you" part of our program. Or as I like to call it, Nuh-UH! YOU!!
Rubin:
Eric accuses Amer of conflating two very different topics: the conservation easement and the value of the unbuilt units.
Amer is undeterred, telling Eric he sent the comps, the day before you talked to McConney, to McArdle for use in valuing the 71-unit conservation easement.
He asks whether he told McArdle to hold off on sending written appraisal until after the statement of finan condition was issued. “No,” Eric said.
And in the worksheets supporting the 2016 statement of financial condition, Eric confirms that he did likely tell McConney to leave the value as is because “nothing had changed.”
70/ Best way to begin a toot in this thread: "Eric admits..."
Rubin:
Eric admits he knew as of November 2015 that the “more supportable value” was $45 million, according to the appraiser, David McArdle of Cushman & Wakefield.
71/ "Did not refresh his recollection..." Say it with me: Drink!
Rubin:
At his deposition, which is now being played, he said he recognizes the name David McArdle “very vaguely” but that emails he saw — not to him — did not refresh his recollection that McArdle was the appraiser retained.
That was “inconsistent with what his role was at the company” because he “had not been involved in appraisal work at the company,” Eric testified at that deposition. 👉🏼Will you concede that your testimony was incorrect?, Amer asked.
“Certainly, I was aware of it,” but Eric maintains that testimony was true. “I really was not involved in the appraisal work; clearly, I made an introduction,” and was on a phone call.
👉🏼Kise is on his feet now, and Amer angrily asks that the witness be excused, so as not to influence his testimony.
76/ Dufus McTrumpFail just referred to himself as an "operator."
Rubin:
Amer is unsatisfied and tries to obtain a clearer answer. Engoron disagrees: “It’s asked and answered.” Eric stands by his earlier testimony. Period.
Will you concede that your testimony was incorrect that you don’t focus on appraisals between law firms and appraisers? “No. I don’t focus on appraisals. I am an operator.”
Will you concede you had significant back and forth with McArdle? No, Eric maintains.
Were you on a video conference call in 2021 with Patrick Birney, Ray Flores and your brother to discuss the statements of financial condition? It’s possible, Eric admits, 👉🏼but he does not remember. 👈🏼Amer reads from Birney’s trial testimony to refresh Eric’s recollection.
Birney testified that the change in golf course valuation method was discussed with Don, Jr. and Eric at that 2021 meeting, something Birney characterized as a “significant change to the year before.” Amer tries again after reading that: Does that jog your recollection?
No, but Eric confirms that he likes Patrick Birney very much and has no reason to doubt his testimony; he “could have been on that phone call.”
Birney testified the purpose of the call was to advise you and Don Jr. of the change in the methodology for valuing golf courses. “That seems possible, yes.”
👉🏼Man, Eric is working hard to not give an inch.
Amer shows him the 2021 supporting data worksheet for the statements of financial condition, which reflects that a change was made on the basis of advice from Marcus Millichap, a golf course consulting company.
@GottaLaff hard to getting the liar to admit he lied about lying. Trumps believe their own lies after awhile. I am sure #daddyMcDonald won't be happy with Eric. Great job perjuring himself 🤏only little lies.
Amer then asks if he understood at the time of the call about the 2021 conference call that the AG was already investigating. ⚡️It goes to his credibility, Amer said, if he cannot remember a meeting that happened after they knew they were under investigation.⚡️
Robert and Kise are strenuously objecting, Kise on the ground that Alan Garten was on that call and therefore, Amer is trying to invade privilege.
Kise refers to his principal law clerk, and now👀🔥 Engoron, while calm, is furious, noting that the obsession with his clerk seems misogynistic to him. Any further reference to my principal law clerk will result in my expanding the order to the attorneys, Engoron says.👀🔥
84/ The word is shameless, despicable, slimy, Trump-like... not 'unbowed.'
Rubin:
Kise is unbowed: I have my own First Amendment rights and an obligation to zealously represent my client, especially when I feel as if I am fighting this case on two fronts.
😳Kise comments that he needs to make a record about the political background of the person sitting to the judge’s right.
[Me: Trump's base is Kise's audience here, and of course, Trump. Utterly disgusting.]
Habba assures Engoron that the issue is not misogyny but that the law clerk’s behavior is inappropriate and that the judge’s positions appear to be whatever she tells him what they should be through notes. Habba continues by complaining that the examination is repetitive.
Engoron: “I have an absolute unfettered right to get advice from my principal law clerk. There is no First Amendment value to talking about her,” especially when making things up, if it compromises her safety.
[Me: Seems to me they're itching to provoke Engoron into losing it.. he won't do that, he's a pro... to go for a mistrial or reversal. Engoron seems to be staying calm, per Rubin]
NOT A QUESTION @GottaLaff
Gagging Trump is working, so now Kise has picked up the ball (gag). This is appealing to his Audience of one, but this is the Judge's courtroom.
@GottaLaff@spocko I think it's also intended to appeal to Trumps supporters. For Trump the legal process is another tool for demagoguery. He thinks he can lose in court but still incite enough vitriol to gain power or wreak chaos if he doesn't.
@FinchHaven As I said earlier, it was intended to rile his base, play to the audience of Trump, since Trump got fined for breaking his gag order by going after her online. What I don't get is how they managed to bring it up today, in what context. @spocko
Amer finally gets a word in: I am allowed to put in evidence about an event that happened two years ago and explore the credibility of his claim that he doesn’t remember it. This witness’s testimony is great; this is not about my being unhappy with it. And finally, his investigative testimony is in the public record; there is no revealing anything that is not well documented.
Kise goes back to his insistence that there is potential bias.
🔥👀Engoron literally pounds the table: “You are not entitled to my notes!”
[Me: Kise doth protesteth too mucheth. "Some of my best friends are women/wives/girls!"🙄]
Kise: “I am not a misogynist. I am happily married. I have a seventeen-year-old daughter.”
🎯>>>(Author’s [Rubin's] note: Having a wife or female child doesn’t automatically take misogyny off the table.)
@GottaLaffsnort King Henry VIII had six wives and two daughters. And had two of his wives beheaded for doing either nothing, or what Henry himself had done many, many times.
@GottaLaff OH. MY. (Something). Never in my wildest dreams would I, having practiced 30y in state courts, lots of litigation, go anywhere near this path.
@GottaLaff
I was unaware that the courts were obliged to take account of the news cycle when managing the progress of a trial. Clearly I need a refresher course in civics.
Or someone somewhere does...
This all goes back to that post that Trump Sr. got fined for. They believe she's biased because she was at an event and posed for a photo with Chuck Schumer.
Which means they did their research and are trying their darndest to find any weak links, even if that includes verbally attacking and potentially throwing his angry mob at this innocent woman for having had been in a picture with a known Democrat. That's nuts.
@acrousey Again, that's how it started ages ago, then Trump got fined for breaking the gag order about the photo. But I haven't yet seen how it tied into today's proceedings. @PandaChronicle
@GottaLaff
gonna read your new thread to see if it answers any questions. I knew about the original TFG offense, just couldn't figure out why Kise thought it relevant to today's testimony.
As always, thank you so much for your extensive reporting!
@acrousey@GottaLaff
When in trouble…DISTRACT! Sure it’s an overall strategy to blame her for losing the trial and ask for a retrial, but the timing was to redirect away from Eric’s perjuries.
where is this stuff about his LAW clerk coming from? Trump went off on her and now they seem to be accusing her of some sort of political bias but what is the origin of this? She registered Democrat or did she donate five dollars to Joe Biden‘s campaign? what’s QAnon bullshit rumor is prompting all this?
but what is the origin? Did one of these legal eagles decide “we need to piss off the judge so let’s go after his law clerk, and accuse her of anything“?
I was expecting one of them to whip out some horrific thing from her past like she donated to Planned Parenthood or the ACLU.
@GottaLaff@kbsez All they need is some plausible BS for the Bribey McCorruptpants (shoutout to Laffy) SCOTUS to reverse. That’s their thinking, I think.
@GottaLaff are his attorneys trying trying to get Trump thrown in jail? Cause he's going to be foaming at the mouth after their performance at the end of the testimony today, and sounds like Judge Engoron is not happy.
@GottaLaff
I've just been busted for hiding in the stock room to catch up. Thank you SO much for doing all of this, especially when there is so much else demanding your attention
@GottaLaff Looks like Guido is trying to blame everyone but himself. Good luck with that, son. And Laffy, TYVM for your hard work today! Outstanding job!
@GottaLaff
92! I think this may be the longest one I've ever seen you do. Thank you so much for keeping us all informed!
It is such a valuable service you provide. I, like others, have a news list and you're the first one I check every morning. Cause i'm west coast too.
And I apologize if my favoriting every one of your posts is annoying. I do it so I know where I left off throughout the day. 🙂
It's interesting that Eric's/Kise's strategy is to stonewall because he doesn't want to plead the Fifth and look spectacularly guilty like the criminal mobster he has already been shown to be. 🤔 That would be bad news for the boy.
@GottaLaff if the business DID continue to operate after this case, can you imagine anyone willing to do business with such vacuous nitwits as the trumps?
@GottaLaff I originally read that last bit as "Your lawyers will have an opportunity to question you. They may not LIKE it, but they'll have it" and... that may be true as well.
@GottaLaff "We're getting tripped up on me not bein' able to Trumpsplain this because you're just too dense" ... it's ironic that this follows Bankman-Fried's similar attempts yesterday to "explain" away fraud to the non-tech-bros in his jury.
@GottaLaff I wonder how much eric trump knew, given he was always mocked on late night shows as being dumb. Its possible he stayed away from those evil dealings because they thought he was stupid, or he might have decided he didn't know enough to help with it.
If its the latter, he is actually smarter than his siblings. I hope that is true, because that would be amusing but also would say he's at least less of problem than those around him.
@GottaLaff I would have opened with the question, "Mr. Trump, have you ingested any illicit substances that may affect your ability to answer questions accurately today?" and watched the little piggy sweat. 😄
@GottaLaff A sidebar observation to that comment is that over the life of Trump Org. so many criminal, near criminal and unethical business acts have taken place he just might be telling the truth.
@GottaLaff
I have this sneaking suspicion that the law does not see that as an excuse, and that if you sign something, you own it, regardless of whether you implicitly trusted some expert.
Going to be interesting to see if the "yeah, I signed it and attested, but I just deferred to the CPA" argument pans out.
@GottaLaff These guys are so certain they're "clever" "rich" guys and can get away with anything. What the rest of us agree with you in calling "assholes"...
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