vga256, to random
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

a perfect web page, circa 1997: Sunny's Ultima Webpage

still live on his university webspace after 27 years
http://www.fim.uni-linz.ac.at/staff/sonntag/ultima.htm

CodexArcanum,
@CodexArcanum@hachyderm.io avatar

@vga256
@rodneylives

Holy hell, the link to the UDIC is still up too! I feel like I just gazed into a window and saw my childhood self, still back there on the family computer, exploring incredible virtual worlds. How do I get this thing open, I'm ready to crawl through and go back!?

blainsmith, to KindActions
@blainsmith@fosstodon.org avatar
leanpub, to books
@leanpub@mastodon.social avatar

Leanpub book LAUNCH! The History of .NET Web Development 3rd Edition by Iris Classon https://youtu.be/m8fuVJGV9FA

vga256, to fallout
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

interplay's official Fallout site in 1997

along with Sierra's Arcanum web site, as a teenager i used to browse this daily, hoping for some kind of update

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@denshirenji it's such a brutally difficult game after a certain point, but it's so rewarding :)

Haste,
@Haste@mastodon.social avatar

@vga256 I miss the webcore aesthetic

vga256, to DaftPunk
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

weird 2000s ephemera: an official rubik’s cube, branded with yahoo! logo tiles that all end up on the same face when solved

#2000s #worldWideWeb

yesterzine,
@yesterzine@topspicy.social avatar

@vga256 I would overthink this be sure I wouldn’t be able to decide if all the logos should be the same way up.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@yesterzine i noticed that too. considering that i've never solved the cube, i am fascinated how it would look when finished

vga256, to movies
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

little story about when you get to see films that make you glad film exists

when i was first dating my wife over a decade ago, i was teaching and used a lot of documentary films in my classes. students had to learn how to observe and interpret people in a safe space.

it was getting late in the year, and i was running out of footage. so my wife and i would stay up until 2am some nights, trying to find enough footage that i could screen the next morning. she'd dig through my old film studies textbook ("A History of Narrative Film"), websites and old forums and imdb, calling out names, and i'd dig them out and watch a minute or two to see if they'd be good candidates.

most of the newer docs were plain bad - more shiny editorials than anything else. people acting instead of being. totally useless for students whose job was to interpret real human behaviour. so i tried to rely on older, more cinéma vérité -style docs.

it was hard to find old docs though - not only because many weren't digitized, but also because young people weren't aware of them, which meant that the web wasn't yet aware of them. imdb might have an entry for it, but only a few thousand people in the world might know the name of the movie.

my wife's secret weapon was a site called jinni. it had some truly solid algorithmic fundamentals that produced high quality recommendations based on what you watched. these weren't the google/amazon garbage recommends you have now: these were based on film qualities, and could produce pretty novel results.

one night it was beyond late, and i was shooting down every movie she recommended. she was getting pissed, and i was getting even more neurotic about finding the right one. she started randomly clicking around jinni in frustration, and came up with a black and white doc from the late 90s with a graffiti title. it looked bad, but i pulled up a low res mpeg someone had stashed on IA

we watched about 3 minutes together and forgot about finding anything else. we watched the entire thing that night, neither of us went to sleep, and i couldn't think about anything else before i taught a few hours later.

it was a movie called Dark Days, about the people living underground in the tunnels beneath NYC:
https://vimeo.com/66989517

a decade later jinni's gone, we're married, and no one makes documentaries like this anymore.

interview with marc singer: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jan/26/dark-days-marc-singer-new-york
jinni, back in 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110207071033/http://www.jinni.com/

mrshll,
@mrshll@mastodon.social avatar

@vga256 dark days is good! I found it because DJ shadow did the soundtrack

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@mrshll ah TIL!

vga256, (edited ) to random
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jeff vogel's Spiderweb Software website, in march 2000. creator of the Exile and Avernum series, jeff previously took mail orders and telephone orders. the web site introduced the concept of ordering shareware games over the internet to his fanbase.

5 years after its disappearance from general use in HTML, it is surprising still using a server-side imagemap to handle navigation clicks on the menu 😆

site: https://web.archive.org/web/20000301030543/http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@scribblemacher 😆 it will never disappear

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

i had no idea that jeff had an even earlier web presence than the 2000 site.

https://web.archive.org/web/19970328060704/http://www.spidweb.com/ predates spiderwebsoftware.com by at least three years (the WBM archive for this page only goes back to 1997).

this one is a true personal homepage, which even has a pic of his pet tarantula, Spider, whom the company got its name from.

A very dim photo of a large tarantula in a terrarium.

shanesemler, to ai
@shanesemler@metalhead.club avatar

Well, I tried to accept #AI and view it as simply a new tool in the #artist arsenal. It's not. It's t̶e̶c̶h̶n̶o̶l̶o̶g̶y̶ #capitalists exploiting technology to turn us into drones with no creative outlet. AI will break #society. It will be worse than the #WorldWideWeb. Despite sci-fi literature and movies speculating on how AI might affect the world, it will be far more catastrophic than anyone could imagine. #Capitalism assures the worst possible outcome. The #singularity is supercharged capitalism.

Linux, to fediverse
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

"I have always been here."

That has my running joke, whenever someone asked, how long I have been using the internet. These days, most people don't ask such questions, because many people cannot imagine a world without the internet. But by pure luck of birth, I was born geographically where the Internet began.

The slang term to describe the network before the Internet was the proto net. That is not what it was actually called, but it was something newcomers on the internet called the early prototype.

The biggest surprise to most people is in the begging, the internet was free. I am not talking about a free trial. You simply called up the local access number, and you were connected. There were no usernames or passwords, and you did not have to sign up with an ISP (internet service provider). This was a very brief time, and it did not last long.

The first consumer ISP was called, "The World" and my family's account number was in the double-digits.

There were no photos or videos or even dot com domains, as you had to remember IP Addresses the same way you had to remember phone numbers. Shortly afterward, there was a listing website, which acted more like a phone book or index, than how you would think of a search engine. On that note, I still own, an old copy of the Internet Yellow Pages (2nd edition).

The first photos were text art, also known as, ASCII art.

It would be easy to say in the beginning there were no ads on the Internet, but technically, in the beginning most websites were little more than business and government listings.

Entertainment would not come for a while. But arguably the first "social media" sites were known as "post boards" which latter become known as "bulletin boards" and eventually were called, "forums."

In the beginning, people used their real name for everything. It was thought strange and creepy to use an anonymous screen name. And for a brief time, everyone did indeed know everyone on the internet, it was so small in the beginning when most of the world had not yet even heard of it. It was technically possible to even download the internet (all of it).

I sound old, but I am only 43, and whether you believe that is old depends on how old you are, I guess, but I sure do not feel it. But I am old enough to know, we have come a long way. The Fediverse is something I enjoy, because it is a concept I once imagined would happen. It was considered a radical idea of a dreamer. And although I had no part in its creation, I am still glad it exists.

Linux,
@Linux@sakurajima.social avatar

@NaraMoore

Apple's forum was short-lived, and they heavily modded their support forums, which technically still exist, but not in the manner it once was discussions.apple.com

Fun fact, I lied about my age to buy Apple stock, and I recall my uncle telling me how he believed I wasted my money. I used a company called, "share builder" which no longer exist and back then they didn't verify everything as they do now (which is how I got away with buying stock when I was underage). Years later, I still have a good laugh at his comment.

NaraMoore,
@NaraMoore@sakurajima.moe avatar

@Linux

I wasn't good enough at math to be in the comupter club at highschool. So I missed coding ASCII art on a mainframe timeshare.

The forum at the time I think was on AOL and we stopped our Apple II with shift mode doing its non-stop Multipplan spreadsheet calculations to join the first-time forum. I was drinking so I don't remember anything about it.

CharlieMcHenry, to random
@CharlieMcHenry@connectop.us avatar

Happy 35th birthday to the web. Tim Berners Lee, the individual credited with inventing the pens an open letter to mark the occasion. BTW, I’m old enough to remember pre-web BBS days and The Well.
https://webfoundation.org/2024/03/marking-the-webs-35th-birthday-an-open-letter/

vga256, to SmallWeb
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

little story for tonight.

while i was goofing around with #globalTalk, I ended up searching for some old Simpsons icons for my classic Macintosh (an LC 475), and stumbled upon an entry on the garden called Banned Simpsons Icons. (Who could resist downloading something with a title like that?)

They were called the "Banned Simpsons Icons" because Fox once sent the artist - Jeanette Foshee - a cease & desist letter for her uncannily perfect renderings of the copyrighted characters. they planned on suing her for every penny she made ($0.00) on them. this was back in 1995.

i thought - hell, what a wild story. why don't I get a hold of the artist - jeanette - and find out more about her banned icon set?

what i stumbled upon broke my heart, and i ended up spending a week digitally preserving what i could find.

read the rest of this diary entry here: https://www.dialup.cafe/~vga256/diary.htm

#smallWeb #homepage #worldwideweb #marchintosh #macintosh

coldclimate,
@coldclimate@hachyderm.io avatar

@vga256 crikey. Thank you

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar
vga256, (edited ) to design
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

i discovered an awesome hack for hi-DPI/retina displays when you're building websites using lo-dpi displays

one of the downsides of working in lo-dpi is that you're generally working at 72ppi... and while graphics look pixel-perfect on your lo-dpi monitor/browser, they look like shit when a hi-dpi display auto-scales them (bicubically).

this is shown in screenshot #1 taken from a retina display. you end up in an ugly mix of two different resolutions - low-res button images, and high res text. mixed res is super distracting to the eye.

i stumbled upon one solution to this completely by accident. if you render out the image to hi-dpi (say, 300 ppi) and then scale it down to the desired size in html/css (e.g. <img width=25% height = 25%>)... it will render at 72ppi on lo-dpi displays, and 300 ppi on hi-dpi displays at the proper size.

screenshot 2 shows the result on a retina display - a nice sharp icon, with sharp text below it.

alabut,
@alabut@techhub.social avatar

@vga256 very cool. My thing right now is that I’m trying to figure out how to serve up the best images I can while still keeping file sizes low. I’m in the hunt for that elusive perfect Lighthouse score for pagespeed and trying to create the CSS to serve up both a variety of image types (e.g. webp and jpg) at different sizes and pixel densities is giving me a migraine.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@alabut 😆 it's funny that we're still dealing with 1990s dial-up problems like image bloat

vga256, (edited ) to edmonton
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i've been sitting on this gem for 25 years. i think it's time.

so back in 1997, i was a first-year undergrad and dial-up was finally rolling out to the general public in most of canada.

with every new welcome package, u of a students received a 25 page manual on setting up smtp/pop for eudora lite, and a copy of netscape navigator.

the Computing and Network Services department decided that the best way to onramp students to the world wide web was via an interactive multimedia tutorial for win95 and macOS that they built themselves with macromedia director

last year an old buddy was cleaning out his basement, and he found his NetSurf '97 CD. couldn't resist capturing some of the 👌 performance by virtual paul

we all wish him well 🙏

Chigaze,
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@vga256 yah, we were right downtown in one of the first, if not the first, neighbourhoods done. We laughed when the guy showed up to install a network card and saw my Power Mac 6100, which already had ethernet so we were already online. He shrugged and left.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@Chigaze 😆 i can remember the excitement for sure. do you remember what the line speed was in the early days? i want to say i moved from 56k to around 1mbit, but it might have been slower than that

vga256, (edited ) to SmallWeb
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after watching doug block's Home Page (1999) documentary a half-dozen times over the past year, i realized how much i missed having a personal home page.

not an itch.io page. not a github repo. not an imgur album.

an actual personal home page full of links to interesting places and people, and a little blog area to write personal stuff in. i haven't had a personal blog since the early 2000s.

i wanted to have some fun, so I hauled my dusty ol' iMac G5 out of storage and installed Macromedia Dreamweaver and Fireworks. i hadn't used any of them in almost 20 years.

i thought it might take me a week to build a home page...

... it took me a year 😅

so this is my little attempt at rebuilding what we lost in the 90s. let me know if you've got a little homepage i can link back to in my hyperlinks area.

http://www.dialup.cafe/~vga256

RetroViator,
@RetroViator@bitbang.social avatar

@vga256 Lovely! The look and feel is impressive—better than the’90s for sure, but the aesthetic is spot on.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@RetroViator thanks! :) it sure was fun learning how to emulate the particular look and feel. Aqua was much more subtle than I had expected.

vga256, to design
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

i am beginning to realize at a late age that hardware and software constraints partly create a rich space for creative work.

this is my 2004 iMac G5. i am making a personal homepage with it, using Macromedia Dreamweaver and Fireworks MX 2004.

i started this last year almost to the day and forgot about it. today i am going to finish it and post the url later.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@arroz it's a tough balance. the constraints are helpful in delineating what will be easy vs. hard to accomplish given the existing possibilities. doing something outside of those constraints is really, really hard all of a sudden, and requires a ton of work. i can understand why authors would not want the constraints - they require a ton of time/effort to overcome!

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@MothWaves agreed. it's also nice to have a pre-constrained world to work in - it pares away a lot of the choices necessary (do I use js or html5 or webassembly? answer: none of the above are available!)

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