strypey, to linuxphones
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

The GNU Project turned 40 on Tuesday. Congratulations GNU!

In honour of the achievements of the multitude of talented people who have contributed to GNU over the last 40 years, I'm going to pull finger and teach mysefl how to install an updated mobile GNU OS on my PinePhone (props to the @PINE64 crew).

#GNU #GNUProject #MobileGNU #PinePhone

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

Props to the Chief GNUisance Dr Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation, and creator of the philosophical scaffolding of software freedoms and copyleft.

Without his work, we wouldn't even have this decentralised space - powered 100% by Free Code (so far) - to argue about whether he deserves props. Arguably the net as we know it could not exist.

https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html

#RichardStallman #RMS #ChiefGNUisance #GNU #GNUProject #FSF #SoftwareFreedom #copyleft

dada, to random French
@dada@diaspodon.fr avatar

GNU fête ses 40 ans - https://www.nextinpact.com/article/72538/gnu-fete-ses-40-ans

> Le système d’exploitation #GNU fête en ce moment ses 40 ans. Le projet, initié par Richard #Stallman, a donné naissance à un courant de pensée, qui s’est plus tard matérialisé dans la Free Software Foundation. On lui doit également la notion de #copyleft.

:blobheart: GNU :blobheart:

320x200, to ai
@320x200@post.lurk.org avatar

Copy Far "AI"

"Copy Far 'AI' - A license close to copyleft, but far from the so-called 'Artificial Intelligences'."

https://copyfarai.itcouldbewor.se/

#FLOSS #ethical #licensing #AI #copyleft

lightweight, (edited ) to random
@lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

I think, given that MS Azure costs at least 10 x more than many of its smaller (but far more worthy) competitors, the NZ public service (i.e. we taxpayers) are being ripped off. https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201838240/should-nz-health-data-be-in-the-cloud I need to have a word with Ben Creet about praising "cloud providers'" security... some are far worse than others, and Microsoft's no where near the head of the pack.

lightweight,
@lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@ramblingsteve even then I don't think it'd be acceptable. I think all gov't procured by government needs to be open standards compliant (see https://openstandards.nz) and any development funded by public $ needs to be fully #Libre - #Copyleft as is currently 'recommended' in NZ with the NZGOAL-SE, but routinely ignored by procurement agents because vendors - surprise surprise - make a lot more money by selling gov't proprietary software that adheres to few if any open standards.

yogthos, to random
@yogthos@mas.to avatar
ArneBab, (edited )
@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social avatar

@yogthos "unintentionally" as in: the of the does not have teeth when it’s just used on a server, and too few people chose the to preserve copyleft.

See what Google has to say about it: https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl-policy

AGPL has been available since 2002: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License

maaretp, to random
@maaretp@mas.to avatar

I'm spending significant amount of my working time avoiding #copyleft licenses only to realize that I might be volunteering within an organization that promotes copyleft. 🤦‍♀️

realn2s,

@maaretp
What do you mean by avoiding #copypeft licensees? Not using #copyleft licensed stuff?
Or only contribute/use permissive licensed stuff?
I'm puzzled what's your reason for this 🤔
Would you care to tell me more?
(Hope this doesn't sound "demanding" 🥴)

maaretp,
@maaretp@mas.to avatar

@realn2s I find #copyleft completely reasonable license. It just has implications. Share alike is a lot for a lot of places and people.

Bristow_69, to random French
@Bristow_69@framapiaf.org avatar

J'adore le nom de cette maison d'édition : @CopieGauche ; cela fait bien entendu écho à la licence :blobcatheart:

Leurs livres seront en licence :cc: et le premier est en pré-vente sur :

➡️ https://fr.ulule.com/solarpunk/

mttaggart, to unity

Actually, big thanks to #Unity for elegantly demonstrating a huge part of the risk model of proprietary software.

lightweight,
@lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@mttaggart thanks for the explanation - fwiw, I'm a data point demonstrating a developer can make a good living as a purely #LibreSoftware dev (#Copyleft is my preference)... my whole career thus far (~30 years)... I don't think proprietary software is really inevitable... nor (in any way) desirable.

In other words: it does not follow that 'paid software developers' depends on proprietary software.

And, aside from the odd bit of firmware/BIOS, my entire computing toolset is Libre.

ErictheCerise, to foss

Yet another corporate-led #FOSS project getting screwed by the company that is supposed to be taking care of it.

If you or your business uses it, and if you care about such things (and I hope you do) ... time to quit using #Terraform and switch over to #OpenTF ( https://openTF.org/ ).

The parent corp changed the project license from a FOSS license to a more profit-friendly business license. Of course, it was promptly forked by FOSS folk to maintain a free and open version.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/418538

"Our view is that we're actually not the fork ... the fork is actually HashiCorp that has forked its own projects under a different license."

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@ErictheCerise
> "HashiCorp that has forked its own projects under a different license"

This is another reminder never to assign your copyright to a private company. License them to use it under a copyleft license, but keep the copyright. If they want to avoid publishing code for their modifications, make them pay you for a copyleft exemption (if you're willing to grant one, you don't have to).

(1/2)

#copyleft #CopyleftExemption #copyright #CopyrightAssignment

jxself, to random
@jxself@mastodon.social avatar

Copyleft ensures that the software freedom we enjoy today continues for tomorrow's users: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html #GNU #Copyleft

galdor, to random
@galdor@emacs.ch avatar

The old "we don't want competitors to undercut us" thing is such a bad justification for switching to non Open Source licenses (e.g. Elastic, Hashicorp…). You can absolutely keep some features in proprietary extensions and make them available to enterprise clients while keeping the main software OSS.

Cluster mode, SSO, SCIM, audit logs, account impersonation, integrations with proprietary software, the list goes on and on. And these features are usually hard to replicate, good for you.

bahmanm,

@galdor And let's not forget switching to #AGPL v3 will not only ensure a #copyleft license for the community but will also forces the competitors/distributors (read #Amazon) do the same.

lightweight, to libresoftware
@lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

How #Copyleft licenses (like the #GPL) and #LibreSoftware aka #FOSS aka #FreeSoftware can help us all avoid #DigitalColonisation by proprietary US Big Tech & protect our #DigitalSovereignty via the founder of #NextCloud https://video.resolutions.it/w/4d5c5b1d-9613-4201-8d55-9e7906f42518 We need to break the cycle we're currently in. It's expensive, disempowering, & brittle. And it's unfit for purpose.

panda, to random
remixtures, to ai Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

: "The term “open source” should not be expanded to include releases that do not comply with such a standard (or the existing, general standard embodied in the Open Source Definition). Meta should, therefore, not be using the term “open source” for a model whose license fundamentally breaks open-source development – as is the case with Llama 2’s anti-competitive clauses.

Yet the case also confirms the need to revisit the open source standard, either by modifying the definition itself, or by establishing additional protocols, specific to AI development. Crucially, these should establish norms for training data transparency. Regulators might introduce these – although the recent agreement between the White House and American AI companies indicates that some are reluctant. For this reason, the open-source community should also define a norm – even if questions about data provenance and transparency fall beyond the scope of the traditional open-source approach. The latest discussion paper from the Digital Public Goods Alliance offers guidance. It proposes that the digital public goods standards, when applied to AI systems, require open licensing of training data. The paper also argues for further work on defining a data governance standard for AI systems.

While the Llama 2 release has significant limitations and faults – when reviewed against the emerging principles for open-source AI development – it also includes novel mechanisms, like the attempts to build community-based governance. Hopefully, Meta will commit – in the spirit of such governance – to supporting a collaborative process aimed at defining the standard for open-source AI releases; and to making future release strategies compliant with this standard."

https://openfuture.eu/blog/the-mirage-of-open-source-ai-analyzing-metas-llama-2-release-strategy/

irom,
@irom@social.tchncs.de avatar

@remixtures

I would very much prefer that people who are interested in the social aspects of computer programs just support instead of . Free Software is political. It activily promotes awareness about these social issues.

Open Source was specifically invented to lose the ideology of Free Software. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/O/open-source.html
Also with (part of the definition of Free Software) there would be no “Paradox” of Open.

Explained by the FSF:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

tod, to random
@tod@hci.social avatar

The entire city of #Yellowknife is being evacuated. This is unprecedented and terrifying.

And thousands of citizens aren’t aware because Meta continues to block news in the country.

This is what happens when citizens are convinced to use an American multinational corporation as their community’s primary communications channel — a corporation that couldn’t give two shits about anything except its “fiduciary duty” to shareholders.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nwt-wildfire-emergency-update-august-16-1.6938756

kkarhan,

@JustinLachance @tod It's called "Formulating a " and I can highly recommend it.

It's way more complex but it allows for some consistent yet realistic approaches.

I.e. one can acknowledge that and showed the need for stronger whilst also noting that neither nor nor doesn't adress that problem and instead demand illegal actions to comply [i.e. surrendering all patents] which ignore the reality of .

https://postchat.io/@JustinLachance/110907574633552171

ian, to random

I love when a company who built their whole business on top of open source developed by others (Linux, Ruby, Go, etc) decry "vendors who take advantage of pure OSS models, and the community work on OSS projects, for their own commercial goals" switch to a proprietary license rather than a copyleft that actually codifies the culture of reciprocal sharing.

https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/hashicorp-adopts-business-source-license

kkarhan,

@ian The problem with all existing #Copyleft licenses is that they don't force those that take something to publish back their modifications.

#SSPL and #AGPLv3 didn't really fix that either...

natsume_shokogami,
@natsume_shokogami@mastodon.world avatar

@kkarhan @ian Also organizations developing #FOSS licenses (especially #copyleft ones) such as FSF or OSI underestimate they how much large corps can exploit the licenses, such as all the patents, DRM, CLA, tivotization, now with EULA and contracts,...

Also most FOSS advocate organizations realized that large corps do have enough resources to replace a unwanted licensed components to another, and license the whole work under an older license and they cannot do anything against it.

ross, to foss
@ross@rossabaker.com avatar

I'm delighted that software I wrote runs far and wide, but each time someone tells me their employer forbids any contribution back, even on personal time, I see more appeal in Copyleft.

#FOSS #Copyleft

juliaferraioli, to opensource
@juliaferraioli@floss.social avatar

Hey. Open source licenses still do matter, because protecting people's rights still matters and respecting obligations still matters.

If you have stopped caring about those things, then...I guess I have learned something about your priorities.

#OpenSource #FLOSS #FOSS

pospi,

@juliaferraioli +1 and would like to add that #EthicalSource licensing matters too. And that ideological tensions between the permissiveness of some #FreeSoftware licensing and the more opinionated #CopyLeft licensing areas exist.

Myself I am concerned about protective licensing that may be taken as a prefigurative measure against unintended harmful consequences of the use of software. https://firstdonoharm.dev/ was recommended to me, seems quite comprehensive and rigorous, but still researching..

rain, to random
@rain@hachyderm.io avatar

A lot of things online, like open source projects, are gifts given to a community, and people just don't know how to handle gifts given to them

kkarhan,

@rain not necessarily...

Some and/or don't allow you to do that.

I'm not just talking about "published source" like 's client, but also and which are basically designed to prevent competiton - or not - from making any commercial product.

Basically aiming at monopolizing any commercial product.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Affero_General_Public_License
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License

tallship, to foss en-us

Let's pretend we're proponents of free and open source software, enlist an army of week intentioned FOSS developers to contribute to our project, and once successfully deployed in many enterprises across the industry...

Pull the rug out and convert it into a proprietary product with a bunch of undisclosed, hidden code that we won't ever show you - Muahahaha...

Yeah. I see this happening right now in several prominent and celebrated open source projects that you're probably completely oblivious to those sinister objectives.

This is why the most ubiquitous desktop operating system in the world is Minix.

What's that you say?

Yup, Minix. But that's no secret, the cat was out of the bag on that one a few years back (after being secretly so for many years).

Before you contribute any more code, translations, or documentation to a software project, consider this:

drewdevault.com/2023/07/04/Don…

Next up? How Minix became the most prolific operating system in the world today. Stay tuned!

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tallship,

Here we go folks!

How Minix got to be the most prolific desktop operating system in the world...

lukesmith.xyz/articles/why-i-u…

Now, there's another point to be made here, without specifically naming any projects currently abusing user contributions. Let's call this hypothetical project "hammer&anvil", itself a fork of a popular software project - but claims it's all about being free and transparent, wanting to distinguish itself from the project it's forked from by adopting GPL3 instead of a permissive license.

Sure, the project's BDFL (let's call her "Strawberry Daiquiri"), says one day, "were forming a fork of project X because they've formed a company and I'm afraid what they are going to do with X because it's under a permissive license. This girl will be brutally transparent and completely run by the community under the philosophy of anarchy, but we're going to call it a sociocracy so you don't know that it's really just me making a proprietary product for my own ambitions".

Well, Miss Daquiri decides to capture by capitalizing upon the sentiment that folks have for Copyleft - it's supposed to protect free software, right?

Well, this fork (hammer& anvil) is a hosted solution - meaning SaaS, meaning, it runs elsewhere (other than in your computer) in the cloud as a publicly accessible service. Hmmmm.

That means that the most appropriate Copyleft license is likely the AGPL, and not the GPL as one would expect fur a desktop or other local program that you actually download and install in your laptop or server.

The GPL requires that when you distribute (give away or sell) your program, either by letting someone download or handing it to them on a USB stick, Etc., You must also make available ALL of the source code, including any changes you've made to the program.

But if you run a modified GPL program as a service in the cloud you don't have to provide ANY off the changes you've made to the code.

Hmmm.

With AGPL you do have to supply your users with ANY code modifications you've made to the running service to which they have accounts...

So let's just say that you fork Mastodon, and call it Glitch-Soc, modify it, and run it in the cloud for people to create accounts on and use (for free or for monthly subscription fees - it doesn't matter). ANY and ALL changes to the code base that you make MUST be made available anytime a user asks for the source code, because it's an licensed product.

And in reality, such is actually the case with this exceedingly popular and capable . It's a fine product in it's own right.

But had you changed the license to all contributions moving forward to , you wouldn't have to provide any modifications you made (unless you give or sell the software product itself on say, a USB stick or via download).

Why? Because you're just allowing them to access and use your service, your not actually giving them the program to use for themselves elsewhere - so any modifications you made since forking under a different license (GPL instead of AGPL) isn't something you have to show them.

You've essentially created a product (if you're so nefarious as to hide your code changes by butt disclosing them), the only code of which you must supply being that which existed under the AGPL before you forked it.

Both and permissive open source like and can be a good thing, or they can be abused beyond the intentions of the inclined project contributors. Just make sure that you understand what can and cannot be changed where your intended purpose for the and of source code is concerned....

There are BIG differences between the ramifications of each and how they can affect transparency and distribution of your free gifts to the world.

In our hypothetical scenario with hammer&anvil, the , Daiquiri, has decided that she's going to launch a hosted service, and she's going to include things that you don't see and can't be aware of behind the scenes which, if disclosed, you would have nothing to do with - but you'll never know what kinds of scary things she's done with the product that only resembles the original on the surface, because Miss Daquiri will never have to show you the code she has added behind the scenes.

"Beautiful Victor, Beautiful."
-The Monster, speaking to his creator in the film, 'Frankenstein, The True Story'.

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farooqkz, to android
@farooqkz@blackrock.city avatar

What should I do about a violation? I have an and the company does not provide the source code for the

Please boost/reblog this to get more people involved.

msw, to portland
msw,

The most important freedoms that #Copyleft protects are those freedoms enjoyed by the end user.

💯 Agree!

#GPL #FOSSY #FOSSY2023 #SoftwareFreedom

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