The Unofficial Signal Messenger Community

kuketzblog, German
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Signal Messenger: Unter "Einstellungen -> Daten und Speicher" könnt ihr die Medienqualität für den Versand beeinflussen. Wird die Option auf "hoch" gestellt, wird das Bild nicht so stark komprimiert, wie in der Standardeinstellung. Benötigt dann natürlich mehr Datenvolumen.

#messenger #signal #medien

jedie,
@jedie@chaos.social avatar

@kuketzblog kann man auch bei jedem Bild einzeln einstellen.

kubikpixel, (edited ) German
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Die Schweiz ist nicht in der EU aber in Europa und kann dies mMn gemäss @signalapp genau so deswegen betreffen.

»Überwachung statt Sicherheit – Wenn die Chatkontrolle kommt, würde Signal gehen:
Die Chefin des verschlüsselten Messengers Signal hat drastische Schritte angekündigt, sollte der Vorschlag zur Chatkontrolle umgesetzt werden.«

😒 https://www.golem.de/news/ueberwachung-statt-sicherheit-wenn-die-chatkontrolle-kommt-wuerde-signal-gehen-2406-185659.html


#signal #sicherheit #chat #chatkontrolle #eu #europa #schweiz #messenger #privatsphare #uberwachung #chefin

sarcevic,
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@kubikpixel @signalapp Find's super, dass @signalapp jetzt schon ihren Standpunkt klar machen. Das ist richtig und wichtig! Anderen Messengern (WhatsApp, iMessage etc) ist das scheinbar egal, auch wenn sie gerne mit "Privatsphäre" werben...

kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

@sarcevic ja und auch deswegen kein vorwurf dem gegenüber von mir. es könnte so weit ausreichen, dass (führende) politos keine sicher kommunikation hätten und das es deswegen auch andere entscheidungen sich ergeben.

leitmedium, German
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Meredith Whittaker, Präsidentin der gemeinnützigen Signal-Stiftung, die hinter dem Messenger #Signal steht, hat angekündigt, dass Signal im Falle der Umsetzung der geplanten Chatkontrollen sich aus dem Europäischen Markt zurückziehen wird.

> »Let there be no doubt: we will leave the EU market rather than undermine our privacy guarantees. This proposal--if passed and enforced against us--would require us to make this choice. It's surveillance wine in safety bottles. To be clear--we will stay to the end. We stand with the people in Europe & their right to privacy, whatever the Commission does. But we won't comply with any mandate to undermine our privacy guarantees. And noncompliance would result in our being barred from the market.«

Das würde wohl vor allem bedeuten, dass die App nicht mehr über App Stores zur Verfügung steht und theoretisch noch manuell installiert werden kann, aber letztlich wäre es wohl das Aus von Signal in Europa. (Hatte die letzten zwei Worte ursprünglich vergessen).

Quelle:
https://mastodon.world/
Bericht dazu:
https://www.golem.de/news/ueberwachung-statt-sicherheit-wenn-die-chatkontrolle-kommt-wuerde-signal-gehen-2406-185659.html

tante,
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@festal @leitmedium Auf jeden Fall Store. Bei Signal, die ja zentrale Infrastrukturkomponenten betreiben, ohne die nix läuft, könnte natürlich erzwungen werden, dass EU Bürger*innen/IPs geblockt werden (wo dann Sideloading egal wäre)

leitmedium,
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@tante @festal Denke auch: Store first. Geoblocking eventuell nachgelagert, wenn kritisch festgestellt wird, dass Menschen sich in statistisch relevantem Maße einfach installieren, was sie wollen.

_elena,
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Another week, another attempt to transfer my #Signal messages to a new iPhone.

I've got 30GB of data (reason: 3 years of baby photos + videos shared with family members 😅) and the estimated transfer time is 27 HOURS.

The 2 phones (old & new) need to be near each other, touching, with the Signal app open, for the entirety of the transfer. I've failed previous transfers by doing something as simple as turning off an alarm, ugh.

So I need to use a THIRD phone while this happens. Wish me luck!

oblomov,
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@_elena woah, horrible. They don't offer a better way? Something like exporting an encrypted backup and allowing then to restore it on the other phone?

_elena,
@_elena@mastodon.social avatar

@oblomov unfortunately no… you may do something like that on Android but not on iOS 😫

Last week I started the transfer at 6pm and it went from 0% to 20% in 6 hours… and from 20% to 25% from midnight to 6am…

paoloredaelli,
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Facing Collapse After Cuts Funding

So which are the free-as-in-fredom alternatives?

https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia

> On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat.

smallcircles,
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Meredith Whittaker president of @signalapp on #Xitter announces #Signal will leave #EU market if #ChatControl regulation by @EUCommission comes into effect.

MEP @echo_pbreyer for a long time is raising awareness of the pervasive #privacy-eroding nature of this regulation, which won't have its intended effect of protecting children.

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/majority-for-chat-control-possible-users-who-refuse-scanning-to-be-prevented-from-sharing-photos-and-links/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40551260

#EUCommission is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in how good regulation is followed by dystopic stuff, eroding trust.

smallcircles,
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smallcircles,
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@gabriel

Yes, I think they have. Not broadly, as the average person isn't aware of this stuff. But there's a large body of organizations that continues ringing the alarm bell each and every time rears its ugly head again.

These rather dystopic overreaching regulations are lobbied for by state actors (e.g. anti-terror). Strategy seems to be to wear out opponents until some form of the regulation is passsed. Then the next one follows, etc.

@signalapp @echo_pbreyer @EUCommission

adfichter, German
@adfichter@chaos.social avatar

Without the #Signal-Messenger-App I will have big difficulties to do my work. Some sources only communicate on this channel. Cause they trust the Signal-architecture (so do I).

#chatkontrolle #chatcontrol

Kensan,
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@AskASwiss @adfichter
“Let there be no doubt: we will leave the EU market rather than undermine our privacy guarantees.”

@Mer__edith
ist President of Signal Foundation
https://mastodon.world/

kubikpixel, (edited )
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@adfichter even if I recommend @briar or/and @cwtch. people still have to install and use @fdroidorg, but unfortunately this is a major obstacle for many people.

@Kensan @AskASwiss @Mer__edith

nikkasystems, Swedish
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Polisen har igen råkat smutskasta den säkra meddelande­appen Signal. I SVT framfördes ett absurt påstående om att enbart kriminella använder Signal. https://nikkasystems.com/2024/05/30/signal-smutskastas-igen-av-polisen/

MediaActivist,
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"A lot of times we see these disinformation campaigns targeted at vulnerable communities in order to force them onto a less secure option and then subject them to surveillance and social control and other forms of harm that come from that type of weaponized information asymmetry...Telegram is a social media platform with DMs. Signal is a private communication service." Superb stuff, as usual, from Signal's Meredith Whittaker @Mer__edith https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/24/signals-meredith-whittaker-on-the-telegram-security-clash-and-the-edge-lords-at-openai/?guccounter=1

MediaActivist,
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"There are two major benefits to using Signal. First, the messages are end-to-end encrypted, which means that Signal (the company) does not have access to them. Only you and the person on the other end can access the messages. This makes Signal different from texting and social media. Second, while you need a phone number to make an account, following a recent update, it is now possible to withhold your phone number from the people you message. This is very important for those who prefer to remain anonymous, because your phone number can be used to connect your messages to you." https://crimethinc.com/2024/05/27/the-sunbird-how-to-start-an-announcements-only-thread-on-signal-and-how-organizers-in-austin-used-one-to-coordinate-solidarity-with-palestine @Mer__edith

surchaw,
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If you're still using for most of your covos then know that it is high time you switch to something like https://signal.org/download/

THE ZUCK IS WATCHING

d8f38b894b42f7008305cebf17b48925654f22b180c5861b81141f80ccf72848,
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FYI for users:

Today my wife could not send messages because Signal has implemented captchas, and the captcha failed. Nothing would send without passing the captcha. The message was being sent to another Signal user who she's messaged before and is in her contacts. It was urgent, and she had to send via SMS to get the message through.

The "feature" and "safety" creep has turned Signal into something that doesn't do its only job. They would sacrifice function for the sake of treating us like spammers. You'd also think the years of metadata they have would be enough to get us on the "not spam" list.

We were already using other apps as our primary messengers, but this is really the final nail in the coffin.

sarahc,
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A verybinterestin conversation with Meredith Whittaker, the head of Signal, the well known encrypted messaging app.

' I don’t think we can have a conversation about disinformation without having a conversation about the role of massive homogenous platforms that have cannibalized our media ecosystem and our information ecosystem in service of profit and growth for a handful of companies [TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X and YouTube]. '

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/24/signals-meredith-whittaker-on-the-telegram-security-clash-and-the-edge-lords-at-openai/

signalappnl, Dutch
@signalappnl@mastodon.social avatar

Meta gaat je informatie gebruiken om hun AI te trainen, met alleen een omslachtig formulier als opt-out!

Makkelijker is het om gewoon al je Meta-accounts te verwijderen en @signalapp te gebruiken 👍

#signalapp #signal #signalmessenger #privacy #meta

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/222240/meta-gaat-ai-vanaf-eind-juni-ook-op-data-van-europeanen-trainen.html

pneutig, German
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Da die Frage immer wieder aufkommt, ob Signal für uns noch nutzbar wäre, wenn die durchkommt: nein. @Mer__edith bestätigt nochmal: eher würde sich aus dem EU-Markt zurückziehen, als die geplante Massenüberwachung von Nutzenden umzusetzen.
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