inquiline,
@inquiline@union.place avatar

Well well well

"A handful of powerful businessmen pushed New York City Mayor Eric Adams to use police to crack down on pro-Palestinian student protesters at University, donating to the politician and offering to pay for private investigators to help break up the demonstrations, based on leaked WhatsApp conversations"

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/16/pro-israel-billionaires-urged-new-york-crackdown-on-gaza-protests-report

chargrille,
@chargrille@progressives.social avatar

@inquiline

I'm sure they'll be real reliable allies.🙄

"Blavatnik made his initial fortune after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the privatization of state-owned aluminum & oil assets." 👀

Blavatnik's one of the GOP's biggest donors & "closely associated with Russian oligarchs such as Viktor Vekselberg & Oleg Deripaska.

$7.35 million to 6 GOP candidates in 2015-16

$1 million to Trump's inauguration fund

$3.5 million to Mitch McConnell's super PAC

A whopping $5,600 to Biden in 2020.

PadreWil,
@PadreWil@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@inquiline Once again …… $$ coming first ….. over what is RIGHT !!! Give those students their 1st amendment rights !!!!

inquiline,
@inquiline@union.place avatar

Muting this, nobody say anything terrible here pls

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@inquiline

Reminder: These people are not peaceful protestors. And Al Jazeera is overtly antisemitic: they publish Holocaust denialism.

TAI,
@TAI@mstdn.social avatar

@TruthSandwich @inquiline Well, we're actually discovering Israel never had a problem with genocide, they just want to be conducting it, not the target of it. Gaza is their mirror

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@TAI @inquiline

Reminder: Collateral damage during war is not genocide. However, falsely claiming Israeli genocide is antisemitism.

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@TAI

Reminder: By all accounts, Hamas commits nothing but war crimes.

The 10/7 massacre? A war crime.

The kidnappings? A war crime.

Using hospitals, homes, and schools as military bases? A war crime.

But, sure, you're going to ignore that and go after Israel. Which is totally not antisemitic, amirite?

TAI,
@TAI@mstdn.social avatar

@TruthSandwich anyone who takes the position that the world began on october 7th is disingenuous at best. Someone who clearly believes all that matters or should exist is Israel and to hell with all others. I finally do realize how Israel has earned contempt from others. Too foolish pleading for empathy when they have absolutely none for others. The blinders are off.

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@TAI

Pro-Hamas types need to pretend that the world started on Oct 8th, both to avoid endorsing a massacre and to make Israel's retaliation seem inexplicable.

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich

It's rolling demands and grievance, followed by martyrs on handgliders taking hostage and screaming bad slogans.

All while ignoring #oct7

@TAI

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@RememberUsAlways @TAI

In their "defense", some of the "pro-Palestinian" protestors do talk about Oct 7th. They say it's "based".

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich @TAI

Arab nations seem to believe the taking of hostages is on par with martyr status.

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@RememberUsAlways @TAI

The extra insult on top of the injury is that they keep exchanging innocent hostages for guilty prisoners.

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich

Antisemitism is comparing prisoners in Israel who are fed and accounted for, to hostages held, who knows where, dead or alive, in Palestine.

The terrorists are hunted after release.

I'm ok with it as long as the hostages come home.

@TAI

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@RememberUsAlways @TAI

It occurred to me that, if Israel was as evil as Hamas, it would simply round up tens of thousands of random Gazans and hold them hostage, killing them off at random until the captured Israelis were returned.

But, hey, it's totally normal to have one standard for terrorists and another for Jews...

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich

Yup. We've lowered our standards enough now.

I'm sure no one would notice if the #UnitedStates started taking #hostages.
It's mearly a question of flavors of #terrorist now.

All bets are off once we toss out the #genevaconventions.

@TAI

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@RememberUsAlways @TAI

The fun trick is that Israel has signed the Geneva Convention and various other treaties regarding war. Hamas has not!

It would be in violation of all of them every day, except that it never agreed to any. That's what makes it a terrorist state.

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich

Nope. The Conventions of War doesn't work like that.

That is the beauty of the writing and foresight of the document.
Includes ALL nations and non state actors under the #law

I highly recommend reading the entire time-line of our world forefathers. It's not something AI could reproduce.

#genevaconventions

@TAI

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@RememberUsAlways @TAI

That's true and false. It's true that the conventions are now considered customary international law, so they bind nonsignatories.

It's false in that, for example, the ICJ can't go after Hamas for its massacre because Hamas never agreed to be bound by the ICJ.

RememberUsAlways, (edited )
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TruthSandwich

Palestine is not fully recognized by the UN.

They continue to push for full UN membership but that vote goes directly through the Security Council.
The real gut punch is that the #UN will NOT declare #Hamas a #terrorist organization.

@TAI

LanguageMan1,

@RememberUsAlways @TruthSandwich @TAI That's about right.

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar
TAI,
@TAI@mstdn.social avatar

@TruthSandwich @RememberUsAlways the truth is , Netanyahu, Israel are grateful for Hamas. It's there excuse for hypocrisy. The give away is how you have to paint all Palestinians as Hamas. It fools no one, Hamas was born by Palestinians AND Israeli's. Their "partnership" in misery bred hamas.

TruthSandwich,
@TruthSandwich@fedi.truth-sandwich.com avatar

@TAI @RememberUsAlways

Netanyahu, yes. Israel, no.

I assure you that the 1,200 dead are not thankful for Hamas, nor are their families and friends. Ditto for the hundreds who are now hostages and will likely join the list of casualties.

Gaza is run by Hamas. This is a simple fact: it is their government, no matter how much it favors Iran's interests over theirs.

If Gaza had thrown off the shackles of Hamas, none of this would have happened.

RememberUsAlways, (edited )
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TAI
Thankful for #hamas?
Gives #Israel an excuse?

This is absolutely nonsense. Netanyahu mearly meets the #terrorists on #terrorist terms.

Brutal. Inhumane. Martyr. Hostage. Jihad.

The Arab nations look deeper into their #terror
mirrors. The #hostages are in #Palestine so all #Palestinians are responsible for their safety.
#genevaconventions
@TruthSandwich

@palestine
@israel

TAI,
@TAI@mstdn.social avatar

@TruthSandwich @RememberUsAlways There is no place for Hamas in Gaza without Israel's behavior. It just all falls flat, why Israel wants the truth muzzled. Israel creates a monster , than wants sympathy for what the monster does. The world just isn't buying it anymore. Both Israel and Hamas yelling and pointing at the mirror. The obvious conclusion is they've done NOTHING but endanger their families and each other, NOTHING.

RememberUsAlways,
@RememberUsAlways@newsie.social avatar

@TAI

6 months of #hostage negotiation is not "nothing".
Anyone who has an opinion of the #war in #gaza minus the context of the #hostages should check their #bias.
@TruthSandwich

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