asmodai, to random
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DesRoin, to linux German

Seems to work fine with LXQT, couldn't get enlightenment to work, apparently the current version in pkgsrc is rather old as well.
So I'll run this for now and have a second laptop just in case with

vermaden, to news
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Latest 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝘀 - 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰/𝟬𝟲/𝟬𝟯 (Valuable News - 2024/06/03) available.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2024/06/03/valuable-news-2024-06-03/

Past releases: https://vermaden.wordpress.com/news/

#verblog #vernews #news #bsd #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd #linux #unix #zfs #opnsense #ghostbsd #solaris #vermadenday

RL_Dane, to random
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Hey @brainofdane,

Got your shell account yet? ;)))

#NetBSD #Tilde #Tildeverse

RL_Dane, to random
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Hey #NetBSD peeps,

What older laptops work best with NetBSD?

I tried Net on my Thinkpad X200 about 18 months ago, and wasn't able to get S3 suspend working (it just rebooted, IIRC).

Is anyone else running NetBSD on a laptop?

Just curious, thinking about trying it out in the future, on something cheap and used. :)

pitrh, to FreeBSD
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EuroBSDCon 2024 tutorials have been published, https://events.eurobsdcon.org/2024/schedule/
you can register at https://tickets.eurobsdcon.org/eurobsdcon/dublin/

And you can still submit talks! (go to https://events.eurobsdcon.org/)

Important upcoming dates:

2024-06-15: CfP closes (BSDCan closes on 2024-06-01)
2024-06-22: PC finalizes speaker selection
2024-06-31: Early Bird closes
2024-07-15: Schedule published
2024-09-19—22: EuroBSDCon 2024 in Dublin

alfonsosiciliano, to FreeBSD
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borgbackup, to linux
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borgbackup 1.4.0rc1 (release candidate 1) was just released!

maybe the last chance to give it some testing before the 1.4.0 stable release, so please check it out and give feedback via github.

https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/releases/tag/1.4.0rc1

SDF, to random
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NetBSD 10 has arrived at SDF for the 7th iteration of our primary fileserver.

#netbsd #bsd #runbsd

drewdevault, to random
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Thanks to Mallory Adams, #Hare now supports #NetBSD! 🎉

jspath55, to random
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Boot device failure. Should install #NetBSD.

jutty, to FreeBSD
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Alas, I have to consider some other hardware that is more BSD friendly than what I currently have for my main laptop. Wifi worked great on NetBSD, whereas it was flaky on FreeBSD, but the audio input was the flaky one.

A ThinkPad, maybe? I'll gladly accept hardware recommendations for BSD-friendly models from at least a decade ago (read: cheap).

Current status: Deciding between Void and Alpine for the next episode of The Main Machine Trials®

#BSD #NetBSD #FreeBSD #hardware #VoidLinux #AlpineLinux

pitrh, to Ottawa
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BSDCan - North America's Largest BSD Conference - is in less than two weeks!

Go to https://www.bsdcan.org/2024/, check out the schedule https://www.bsdcan.org/2024/schedule/ and register at https://www.bsdcan.org/2024/registration.php

#bsdcan #ottawa #openbsd #freebsd #netbsd #opensource #development #devops #unix #networking

jutty, to firefox
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After a search in the NetBSD packages for lightweight web browsers, the winners are: vimb, dillo, luakit and netsurf.

Dillo's new release 3.1.0 still hasn't landed, so no HTTPS there. Luakit is very neat, extremely lightweight, minimal, has vim-like bindings and would be perfect if it weren't for the constant white flashing between each pageload when using a custom, darker CSS. NetSurf is also quite neat, with tab support for heavier sessions.

The winner for me is vimb, which although leaving tabs to the window manager, has vim-like bindings, is pretty minimal and does not cause flashing when switching between pages on a custom darker CSS setting.

Honor mention to Arctic Fox, a Pale Moon clone that hits peak nostalgia with the pre-omnibar Firefox look. No theming, not as lightweight, but going strong at 29.5k commits since 2018.

#netbsd #bsd #vimb #dillo #luakit #netsurf #arcticfox #firefox #browsers

kubikpixel, to gentoo
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

Gentoo and NetBSD ban 'AI' code, but Debian doesn't – yet

The problem isn't just that LLM-bot generated code is bad – it's where it came from.

🐧 https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/18/distros_ai_code/


#gentoo #netbsd #debian #ai #llm #LLMs #bsd #linux #opensource #oss #bot #it

jbzfn, to ChatGPT
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

🤖 NetBSD’s New Policy: No Place for AI-Created Code
@linuxiac

“New development policy: code generated by a large language model or similar technology (e.g. ChatGPT, GitHub Copilot) is presumed to be tainted (i.e. of unclear copyright, not fitting NetBSD’s licensing goals) and cannot be committed to NetBSD.”

https://linuxiac.com/netbsd-new-policy-prohibits-usage-of-ai-code

#netbsd #copilot #chatgpt #bsd #ai #aicoding #opensource

etchedpixels, to gentoo
@etchedpixels@mastodon.social avatar

Nice to see and catching up with which has had a

"Microsoft co-pilot laundered code is not accepted in this project"

for a long time. Possibly I need to generalize the rule these days.

fabio, to ai
@fabio@manganiello.social avatar

#NetBSD joins the ranks of software projects that ban #AI generated code.

How they are going to enforce such ban is an obvious question lingering in the air.

Does it include only cases like “hey #ChatGPT write a suite of unit tests for this class”? Or also cases where #Copilot simply autocompletes a for loop while I’m typing it?

In the latter case, how would a hypothetical reviewer enforce the ban? How would the for loop autocompleted by Copilot, or the boilerplate population of hashmap values, look any different than one I would write myself?

And if the issue is with any code that isn’t directly written by a human, then why stop at modern AI generation? Why not include LINTers and traditional IDE autocomplete features?

I have no doubt that the projects that are announcing these no-AI policies have good intentions, but it’s probably time for all of us to have an honest talk.

Code completion isn’t a clear cut binary feature. It’s a big spectrum that goes from the old exuberant ctags to ChatGPT writing whole classes.

And code completion shouldn’t be banned. If it makes a developer more productive, and if the developer understands the code that is being completed, then such bans are akin to a “drivers should only use cars with manual transmission because we feel that it’s more manly”. It’s a conservative and elitist act of shunning out new productive tools because we can’t understand them and regulate them properly.

And more people need to call out the bluff: in cases where the AI only completes a few lines of code, its basically impossible to tell if that snippet was written by a human or an AI assistant.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/05/17/007240/netbsd-bans-ai-generated-code?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

mistersixt, to OpenAI German
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#NetBSD #openai #chatgpt

"Code generated by a large language model or similar technology, such as GitHub/Microsoft's Copilot, OpenAI's ChatGPT, or Facebook/Meta's Code Llama, is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core."

https://www.netbsd.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html

jutty, to random
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zahatikoff, to random
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Hey @netbsd and @jaypatelani ! I got pretty sick and tired of not having portable non-vm #NetBSD, so I was looking into pinebooks...

But apparently people had troubles with bwfm drivers and it was recommended to use -current.

Is it still a valid recommendation? Is the stuff in 10.0 already? Did anything change in general?

Thanks in advance!

phix, to random
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The Odin programming language now supports NetBSD. :ablobcatheartsqueeze: https://github.com/odin-lang/Odin/pull/3439 #NetBSD #odinlang

carparc, to random
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I think this stance is exactly right. Until the copyright and licensing issues with LLMs have been tested in courts, it is a huge risk to be including LLM-generated code. Especially when the LICENSE is such a defining part of the project.

To those that ask “but how will they know”—ultimately, they cannot, but having a clear policy like this sets expectations upfront; just like they have a policy not to include GPL-licensed code.

#NetBSD https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/112446618914747900

_leonov420, to random
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So far, my netbsd research goes well on my RPI4.

  • I can run firefox (with a small fix to avoid tab crash)
  • I can view/edit documents with Libreoffice
  • I can listen music with mplayer/VLC
  • I can play videos with mplayer/VLC
  • mdns works fine (i use a lot in my home network)
  • i can use ZFS (with the ARC memory patch i dont have any issues with 4GB)

i tried to put all of this on this busy screenshot, with a freshly compiled nscde environment.

#netbsd #nscde #raspberrypi4

jutty, to FreeBSD
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Also noticed that provides a large amount of binary distributions for , , , , , among several other OSs, plus many architecture-specific binaries. That is really nice! Next thing will be deploying it on the beastie server.

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