strypey, to chat

Those who were scandalised by @element selling encrypted @matrix communications services to cops, and suggesting XMPP as a replacement, you might be interested to know that...

"Conversations_im seems to be doing its job at the German Federal Police."

@daniel

https://gultsch.social/@daniel/109828650796048124

kuketzblog, to Discord German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

🚨 Größere Überarbeitung der Messenger-Matrix:

  • App-Icons hinzugefügt
  • aTox entfernt, Viber hinzugefügt
  • Neue Kategorie "Benutzbarkeit"
  • Neues Kriterium "Post-Quantum Verschlüsselung"
  • Diverse Aktualisierungen

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html

drazraeltod, to random German
@drazraeltod@chaos.social avatar

Messenger-Apps 2023 so:

  • Element/Riot sind Polizei und andere Behörden als Kunden deutlich wichtiger als Einzelpersonen (und auch sonst prima Arschloch-Verhalten)

  • Signal ist kein SMS-Client mehr

  • meine bezahlte Threema-Version kann ich noch immer nicht legal auf meinem Google-freien Telefon installieren

…und // funktioniert weiterhin einfach problemlos und unaufgeregt.

Klar hab ich da 1-2x ordentlich Aufwand investiert! Aber die Familie ist im MUC erreichbar!

Parnikkapore, to random

It's kind of fun™️ how #Matrix apps generally can only serve as #UnifiedPush receivers, and #XMPP apps generally can only serve as UP distributors

#Conversations being a UP receiver is... not happening anytime soon: https://pleroma.tbqdrn.de/objects/7f974a38-ac35-4f80-b10b-c00d704e2842 . Funnily enough, FCM Push is supported by Conversations. I guess the opportunity to reverse roles changed something.

That said, given that chat apps are already keeping persistent connections, Matrix apps not being a distributor is a missed opportunity.

cryptgoat, to Signal German
@cryptgoat@digitalcourage.social avatar

Dass man die #Telefonnummer bei #Signal verbergen kann, ist wichtig. Trotzdem müssen wir weiterhin darauf vertrauen, dass die Nummer in den Händen von Signal und deren Dienstleistern sicher bleibt. Man erinnere sich an den #Twilio-Hack (Twilio ist für die Registration und Verifikation der Telefonnummer bei Signal verantwortlich): https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/4850133017242-Twilio-Incident-What-Signal-Users-Need-to-Know

Wenn #Anonymität das wichtigste Kriterium ist, empfehle ich aber weiterhin einen #Messenger/Dienst zu nutzen, der die Telefonnummer gar nicht erst erhebt, z.B. #Threema, #DeltaChat, #XMPP / #Conversations oder #Matrix. #SimpleX entwickelt sich ebenso gut. Eine gute Übersicht über verschiedene Möglichkeiten findet ihr in der Messenger-Matrix von @kuketzblog: https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html #Security #Privacy

drazraeltod, to fdroid German
@drazraeltod@chaos.social avatar

WAAAAAAHHHH!

Mein #Conversations hat ein anderes Farbschema!

Die Welt geht unter! Nichts darf jemals anders aussehen als gewohnt! /s

:-D

#FDroid #XMPP

bjoern, to random
@bjoern@mastodon.social avatar

I wonder what's the state of the #XMPP client #Conversations 3? Looking at the project board and the activity of the C3-branch, makes me worry https://codeberg.org/iNPUTmice/Conversations/projects/2321

Does someone know more?

Codeberg, (edited ) to random
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Goffi, (edited ) to random French
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

After #GUI, I've now pushed implementation of a #TUI output in #Libervia #CLI frontend, which shows A/V call video streams directly into your terminal! It's using #Kitty or #iTerm2 image protocols, or #Unicode half-blocks (thanks to #termimage)

I'm not aware of any other CLI tools doing something similar (#XMPP or not). It's not as useful as GUI, but it's quite fun :)

Attached are 2 demo videos of call between Libervia and #Conversations, on #Konsole.

#terminal #shell

nanoelquant, to android
@nanoelquant@c.im avatar

Just for discussion. I don't think that #XMPP / #Jabber was killed by big corporations and/or embrace-extend-exstinguish stuff, despite some harm could probably be.

First of all, it wasn't killed. It exists very well, but people rarely use it. I would try to outline a few reasons which could contribute.

  1. The "original" XMPP does not meet any modern requirements. People expect stability in mobile networks and other unstable internet, synchronization over devices and multimedia. All this was introduced only by later XEPs and is barely supported. I can recall only #Gajim on #desktop and #Conversations on #Android among the clients supporting Stream Management + Message Carbons + Message Archive Management + Receipts + HTTP Upload (about Jingle - I wonder if it ever worked at all). Moreover, when you try to adapt it for your needs, you can easily end up as a troubleshooting admin - some things just work wrong or occasionally.

(To be continued)

blindcoder, to telegram German
@blindcoder@toot.berlin avatar

Mein Favorit ist ja immer noch Conversations, habe aber nebenbei immer noch Telegram benutzt. Warum? Es ist in FDroid erhaeltlich, Signal nicht.

Wenn Elon Musk jetzt gegen Signal hetzt und Telegram favorisiert, sollte ich doch mal Signal installieren.

#Conversations #Telegram #Signal #ElonMusk

eversten, to fdroid
@eversten@social.anoxinon.de avatar

What a great morning on for users:


  1. A beta version of 2.15 arrived at F-Droid. It looks great and now uses Material 3 theme. Be aware: To install this version you need to explicitly select it in F-Droid.


  2. A new minor version has been released which brings GIF import, compatible stickers and other improvements.


  3. A new version has been released bringing fixes and improvements from Conversations to Snikket users.

🎉 Have a nice weekend 🎉

eversten,
@eversten@social.anoxinon.de avatar

Update:
I just saw that the stable versions of #Conversations and #Quicksy have been built by #fdroid .
See: https://monitor.f-droid.org/builds/running

This means:
Users who do not want to use a beta version should be able to use the stable version in a few days (F-Droid needs to finish the build, signing and deployment process for all apps of the current build cycle before the apps are published).

kuketzblog, to Discord German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Service-Toot: Die Messenger-Matrix wurde aktualisiert. Die Empfehlung für Threema wurde angepasst, nachdem nun ein formaler Sicherheitsaudit für das Krypto-Protokoll vorliegt.

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/

karson777, to random
@karson777@mstdn.starnix.network avatar

if the fedi has some good xmpp / jabber group chats let me know

i like the technology but don't know anyone who uses it :sadlinux:​

#xmpp #jabber #gajim #conversations #omemo

e_mydata, to random French
@e_mydata@mastodon.social avatar

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@gael @murena

e_mydata,
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estelle, to Humor
@estelle@techhub.social avatar

If you show the value of a victim, you feel empathy. This increases the desire for equality but you feel bad: it endangers your health.

On the contrary, iIf you stress the mistake of a victim, you protect yourself: you feel like it should not happen to you. Society supports such detachment if the perpetrator is a white man or a police(wo)man.
Blaming the victim justifies inequality, discriminations, violence by the strongest. It normalizes (adult, white, male or cis) privileges. Therefore it normalizes patriarchy and white supremacy.

#blameTheVictim #Hamas #Gaza #ongoingNakba #rapeCulture #adultSupremacy #manliness #EstelleSays #humor #humour #feminism #empathy #grievability #mentalHealth #family #adultDomination #adultism #maleSupremacy #adults #domesticViolence #patriarchy #whiteSupremacy

estelle,
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Julian_Invictus, to advice
@Julian_Invictus@pagan.plus avatar

Someone asked me recently about the ability to "Read the Room" and whether or not this was a skill that can be developed. I certainly believe it is a skill and can be cultivated. Perhaps the most impactful maxim which can guide us in this regard was taught to me by a Jedi Knight who went by the name Zenchi from the Temple of the Jedi Order. He told me, "Learn to Observe without needing to React."

The Internet, particularly the social media algorithm demon, has created an incentive not just to React to everything, but to Observe specifically to React. In this way we often bias our interpretation of that which we observe with a skew towards the least charitable interpretation so that our reaction can be as extreme as possible.

To counteract this and hone this skill of reading the room, we can practice several behaviors that will improve our lives.

First, be the last person to speak in an interaction. When you allow everyone else to have their say, it gives you a chance to examine their perspectives and gauge their intentions.

Second, questions are better than statements. The cultivation of curiosity leads to more robust conversations. A statement can often be viewed as dismissive or ultimate in nature, sometimes leaving a conversation partner feeling as though there's nothing left to say. Curiosity, by contrast, is almost always viewed as an invitation to continue discourse.

Third, speak in a way that is pleasant. We've been taught to rely on flippancy and sarcasm in modern discourse as we assume the intentions of others or deliberately misconstrue them to make ourselves look superior. By engaging with someone in a pleasant way, we can disarm hostility. Even if others fail to uphold this standard, we will still maintain our own peace which is of a value beyond measure.

jd, to Matrix German
@jd@social.ksite.de avatar

Ich bin gerade derbe am überlegen ob ich meinen #ejabberd #xmpp #server abschalte und auf #matrix setze.

Ich finde die Situation unter #iOS einfach unbefriedigend #Monal und wie sie alle heißen sind einfach kein Vergleich zu #Conversations

Grundlegend läuft ejabberd zuverlässig aber irgendwie fühlt es sich nicht mehr rund an.

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html?filter=Conversations,Element,Signal,Telegram,Threema,WhatsApp

cliffwade, to fediverse
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

It's always nice when you can have long, really good conversations with someone. Just talking about random things and making the best of the conversation in general.

This is how the #Fediverse should be at all times. We need more of this type of positivity around this place, especially after all the stuff that happened last week!

I encourage you to do whatever you can to make those good conversations happen!

#Mastodon #Conversations #Positivity

Monal, to iOS German
@Monal@fosstodon.org avatar

We just had our first video call between #Conversations and @Monal 😊

Now only a proper video call UI is missing.

#xmpp #ios #voip

nanoelquant, to fdroid Ukrainian
@nanoelquant@c.im avatar

Що першим ділом треба зробити з новим телефоном? Правильно, видалити або заблокувати купу передвстановленого туди лайна, після чого підключити і поставити що треба.

Ще трошки доведеться тягнути з play, але не будемо про сумне.

Взагалі все це сумно, бо думати про новий телефон я починаю лише тоді, коли старий розвалюється в руках. І це завжди вольовий вибір між просрати гроші на це чи потерпіти ще кілька місяців-півроку-рік і потратити на щось корисніше.

З потрібного:
(людський )
(/)
(варіант )

(читалка тощо)

retiolus, to random
@retiolus@mamot.fr avatar

I hadn't realised that the #Conversations interface had finally been redesigned! So cool!

bubatzkarte, to cannabis German
@bubatzkarte@kowelenz.social avatar

Bubatzkarte Chatraum

Zur Feier von 420 Followern gibt es nun einen öffentlichen Chatraum auf der Basis von XMPP: xmpp:bubatzkarte.de@muc.kowelenz.social?join

Nachfolgend einige Infos für die Leute, die noch nie XMPP genutzt haben.
Eine Liste von öffentlichen Servern gibt es dort: https://www.freie-messenger.de/xmpp/server/
Clients dort: https://www.freie-messenger.de/xmpp/#clients

Ich selber mag auf Android und @dino auf dem Desktop.

@cannabis

maugendre, to Quotes
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"Talk is the fertile field in which cultural change begins; in its absence, it's impossible for a group of people to solve a problem. The goal of the conversation is not to tell people about climate change. It's to expand the number of people in the conversation."

journalist Sara Peach cited by @kathhayhoe

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