Freemind, to Cybersecurity
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This announcement also signifies the conclusion of Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server services, including content peering with other NNTP servers.

#Cybersecurity #Usenet #Google #Spam

https://cybersec84.wordpress.com/2024/01/03/end-of-an-era-google-drops-usenet-support-to-tackle-spam/

Aboumael, to usenet French
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[PresseCitron] - , clap de fin : que signifie la fin de sa prise en charge par ?

Lancé en 1979, Usenet est l’ancêtre de ce qui deviendra quelques années plus tard . Malgré son obsolescence, il est parvenu à survivre jusqu’en 2024. Google, qui a les mains sur la plus vaste archive du réseau, a néanmoins décidé de débrancher la prise.

https://www.presse-citron.net/usenet-clap-de-fin-que-signifie-la-fin-de-sa-prise-en-charge-par-google/



jeeynet, to usenet French
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La fin de Usenet : Google débranche la prise
https://android-mt.ouest-france.fr/news/la-fin-de-usenet-google-debranche-la-prise/155530/

De kwaaa ? Usenet serait aux mains de Google ? Alors, bon, non... En fait, Google arrête son service d'accès à Usenet, mais le protocole est toujours là, les serveurs sont encore là et on peut encore y trouver quelques perles et y échanger des messages !

Donc, la mort de #Usenet ?
Non.
(mais ça reste la faute de #google, faut pas déconner, on est en 2024, mais les bonnes habitudes restent :)

kinux, to random French
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dvd,
@dvd@mamot.fr avatar

@kinux

C’est vraiment n’importe quoi, cet article.

  1. Le retrait de Google annonce surtout la fin d’une énorme vague de spam sur Usenet, vague dont Google Groupes est l’unique responsable.

  2. Il existe, un peu partout dans le monde, des serveurs NNTP indépendants des FAI, et ce sont eux qui maintiennent Usenet en vie. Voir cette liste :

https://sybershock.com/#usenet

Franchement, je pense (et je ne crois pas être le seul) que la décision de Google est plutôt une chance pour Usenet. 😉

dragfyre, to usenet
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Did some reading up on #USENET this past weekend. It's kind of amazing that it's making something of a comeback.

kyonshi, to bbs
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so, idea I have been working on the last few days: #synchronet #bbs on my old #raspberrypi, small #usenet server including web gateway, all geared towards #ttrpg stuff.
lets see what else a pi can run at the same time.

kind of a fool's errand, but it should keep me busy for the next two weeks.

kyonshi,
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wanna time travel a bit?

it turns out https://olduse.net/ works again, and it actually should be able to replay things like they were on the #usenet 44 years ago.

I think I am going to follow along and comment on stuff I find interesting from time to time.

kyonshi, to bbs
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with another foolish idea in my brain I have started to look into how to run my own #bbs on my spare raspberry pi. mostly for messaging (#usenet and stuff), but I guess I'd try to have LORD on there as well. also... maybe a #fediverse server on the same machine?
that might be pushing it though.
I think I spend too much time on all that.

mms, to usenet
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Mastodon is great for sudden burst if words, but lack of real tree structure of postings is a serious hindrance to any longer conversation. This brings me back to trying #usenet :-)

kyonshi, to usenet
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going through my subscriptions on the eternal september server, trying to gauge which groups likely have content, and which content is likely not completely inane.

at one point someone wrote a program that allowed the creation of new groups, which litters the whole list with stupid jokes from the 90s. there's a group alt.hobbies beekeeping, and a group alt.hobbies.serial-murder.

one would assume you could prune these after decades of non-use.

jitigaming, to usenet French
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pumuckl, to usenet German

Any Beginner Workshops for #usenet at #37c3? Or someone willing to explain some basics? :)

dragfyre, to random
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Decided to putter around with #Gemini today. Watch this space. According to @ChrisWere I should be able to do this in about fifteen minutes.

dragfyre,
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Been slowly adding things to the bahai.fyi #Gemini capsule. Mainly archives of content from #USENET, Reddit, and old blogs so far. Lots of reading material, for the fun of it. One thing that's been fun is being reminded how commonly one came across #Gopher, #IRC, anonymous FTP, and even finger back in the mid- to late 90s. The web was just a small part of the online experience at that time.

kyonshi, to usenet
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so there's actual life in #usenet, they even registered their first new newsgroup in I don't know how long (for the #gemini protocol, another rather obscure corner of the #internet)

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/30/usenet_revival/

nixCraft, to linux
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Yeah, do not get tangled in the adventure of useless cat commands in your , , or machines. Use the grep command instead https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-use-grep-command-in-linux-unix/ 👏

mjgardner,
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@nixCraft Awarding “useless use of cat” goes back at least to early #1990s #Usenet and @randalschwartz

publicvoit, to reddit
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amoroso, to usenet
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From The rise and fall of Usenet:

"In many ways, Usenet is a warning about how social networks can go bad. All the same, problems we see today on social networks appeared first on Usenet."

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-usenet-how-the-original-social-media-platform-came-to-be/

kyonshi, to usenet
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today I have mostly been prowling around #usenet again. which is funny, because there's not that much there. some people still post though

kyonshi, to usenet
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so what's new on , dum dee dum dee d...

oh.

that is new.

kyonshi, to usenet
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I am in a way too long call where we slowly work through stuff at work, and so on the side I started configuring #usenet access on my private laptop on the side.

let's see if it has gotten any more active than... hmm... 8 months ago when I checked last?

danie10, to technology
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The rise and fall of Usenet: How the original social media platform came to be 50 years ago

Long before Facebook existed, or even before the Internet, there was Usenet. Usenet was the first social network. Now, with Google Groups abandoning Usenet, this oldest of all social networks is doomed to disappear.

These days, Usenet’s content is almost e ...continues

See https://gadgeteer.co.za/the-rise-and-fall-of-usenet-how-the-original-social-media-platform-came-to-be-50-years-ago/

mms, to usenet
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#Usenet improvement project - http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Gives me serious NGE vibes, which is always a plus

mms, to bbs
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There are three thing I am really sorry to have missed in the close to 40 years of my life:

I still have time for the last one but it’s first one I’d love the most. And it’s dead for a long time.

jameshowell,
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@mms As someone who enjoyed many a #BBS at 300 bps in the early 80s and #USENET in the early 90s, I can honestly tell you that the #Fediverse is a worthy spiritual heir to both.

darth_anxious, to mastodon
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Let it be clear (at least for myself to myself) : I am on to escape and socially, economically and politically toxic ecosystems. I don't know what my instance will do but I will block
I really hope the at least discusses about this.

I know some rejoice of Meta "joining the choir" of Federation. I want Meta to wither and die and be replaced by the Fedi. Because that company is evil.

That was my post of the day thank you ! 😘

knu,
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@jorijn @darth_anxious
1/3 My history in "Social Media" is and . I always avoided big corporations when possible, especially USA based ones. So, for me no , , , , #x, subscriptionware etc..
Because it is increasingly hard to have relations with banks and government without one, I only make an exception for a smartphone. Sadly, it is almost imossible to have one without "selling ones soul" to either or .

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