jake4480, to tech
@jake4480@c.im avatar

I knew that IMDb had been around a long time but TIL it predates the World Wide Web, as it was initially launched as Usenet group rec.arts.movies in 1990 and moved to the web in 1993. And it's been owned by Amazon since 1998, because of course it has 🙄

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMDb

#tech #history #Usenet #IMDb #film #films #movies #TV #90s #1990s

brandonwrites,
@brandonwrites@social.lol avatar

@jake4480 Wow. I had no idea!

jake4480,
@jake4480@c.im avatar

@brandonwrites me either. It's WILD haha

firefly, to usenet
@firefly@neon.nightbulb.net avatar

Do you remember Usenet? It's still free.

https://sybershock.com/#usenet

Htbaa, to usenet
@Htbaa@fosstodon.org avatar

Time to kill off one of my oldest subscriptions. Have been using a paid provider for nearly 20 years. About 5-6 years ago I could upgrade to a yearly subscription for a big discount (compared to the prices they would introduce shortly after). But I haven't really used Usenet for anything at all in the last years.

Somehow cancelling the subscription gives me FOMO for some reason. Can never get it back for that price again. But then again, why would I want Usenet access again...

Htbaa,
@Htbaa@fosstodon.org avatar

@amoroso To be totally honest I only used Usenet to download stuff (which I haven't done for years now, mind you :-)). Have never seen it being used as a discussion forum or sharing of info. But looks like Eternal September is a traditional Usenet server in that regard.

amoroso,
@amoroso@fosstodon.org avatar

@Htbaa Yes, it's a traditional server. I subscribe only to discussion groups, so I'm not familiar with binary ones.

josemurilo, to usenet
@josemurilo@mato.social avatar

"Today, many folks look back with fondness on the early days of computer-based messaging. Depending on age, they may wax nostalgic for , or . All these technologies still exist, although either barely used or are full of spam. It’s hard not to think that something may have been lost.
Perhaps the future isn’t one of endless growth for all-powerful corporations but a return to smaller, more personal “third spaces” where we can feel comfortable."
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/first-post-a-history-of-online-public-messaging/

MikeH, to Facebook

is my post, Sharkey edition (it's basically the same one as I posted when I joined mastodon.me.uk).

I am, like many others here, a refugee from other social media sites. In my case, it all started way back in 1990 when I did the DT200 information technology course. This gave me access to their CoSy based conferencing system. From there I explored various before joining . From there I migrated to and via and alt newsgroups.

My posts are likely to cover a variety of areas such as: , , and . Now that I've got a few more characters to play with I may also post the occasional .

metin, to usenet
@metin@graphics.social avatar

From the ar(t)chive…

3D illustration for a 2006 issue of the Dutch ComputerTotaal magazine, about the SABNZBD tool, which was (is?) much-used for concatenating multi-part downloads from Usenet newsgroups.

daniel,
@daniel@social.dhelonious.de avatar

@metin This is a very nice illustration for a Usenet downloader! I like the low-poly style of the machine 🙂

But who is in this picture? I have a vague feeling of familiarity, but I probably don't know this person 😅

metin,
@metin@graphics.social avatar

@daniel Thanks Daniel!

The fragmented picture is Jack Nicholson in The Shining, one of my all-time favorite films:

https://letterboxd.com/metinseven/film/the-shining/

kyonshi, to usenet
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

in a bit of the usual #usenet humor, the hottest topic to discuss on usenet right now seems to be toast. someone created a free.toast group just a few days ago, and now everyone is discussing that topic into the smallest details

dillo, to usenet
@dillo@fosstodon.org avatar

Playing with a plugin for to read messages. Posting may be doable too.

CC @yeti

The rest of the message.

njsg,
@njsg@social.sdf.org avatar

@yeti @dillo /me again wonders why #MastodonWebUI stopped linkifying news: addresses

Sure, I can copy and paste in another tab, but this is still a downgrade from the previous behaviour...

(Sorry for the OT)

#NetNews

dillo,
@dillo@fosstodon.org avatar

@yeti is probably a good time to switch to another language other than Bash script.

image/png

publicvoit, to reddit
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

More and more previews stop working these days. Current example: my feed aggregator.

I want to emphasize that I've warned about that years ago:

Don't Contribute Anything Relevant in Like Reddit, , and for most parts of my arguments even :
https://karl-voit.at/2020/10/23/avoid-web-forums/

ademir_lemmy_br,
@ademir_lemmy_br@mastodon.social avatar

@publicvoit why not Lemmy?

publicvoit,
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

@ademir_lemmy_br Check out my article (or talk) and you will see that lemmy doesn't address all the issues I collected about web forums.

zeruch, to usenet
@zeruch@mastodon.social avatar

"#USENET, or NetNews, is a text-only social discussions forum, or rather a set of a great many forums, called "newsgroups," carried by multiple servers around the world. Although the original developers closed down their instance in 2010, that was just one server out of hundreds, and many are still running just fine. It never went away – it's still alive, you can get on it for free, and there is a choice of client apps for most OSes to help you navigate."

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/30/usenet_revival/

zeruch,
@zeruch@mastodon.social avatar

@ChrisWere it's still a PITA to manage, and most options out there are security nightmares IIRC.

ChrisWere,
@ChrisWere@toot.wales avatar

@zeruch Interesting, I'm a little surprised at that. I thought it would have been relatively simple compared with modern systems.

michaela, to usenet German
@michaela@lsbt.me avatar

Übrigens, das #Usenet gibt's immer noch. Und beispielsweise #Thunderbird enthält einen Client dafür (ich nutze allerdings #slrn).

HopelessDemigod, to usenet
@HopelessDemigod@mstdn.social avatar

There was nothing wrong with the underlying technology and methodology of Usenet groups. The issue was unmoderated discussions leading to complete chaos. Arguably Reddit built on this model and attempted to address its shortcomings. Unfortunately the original designers of Reddit fell down the money hole and sold their soul to get rich. Time to bring back Usenet.

I offer equal time for an opposing view.

#Usenet

kyonshi,
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

@HopelessDemigod I would say the federated model of usenet actually offers more resilience. I was always a bit wary of reddit's stranglehold on it's own space.

But that also is the issue with usenet. When Google hooked up Google Groups and flooded the whole system with both users and bot spam it became difficult to deal with. Cut out both users and spam, or try to handle spam one by one?

(A situation not dissimilar to the fediverse/threads situation)

Methylcobalamin, to usenet
@Methylcobalamin@mastodon.social avatar

comp.os.linux.misc has been overrun with spam. At least as it is viewed on the web via Google Groups.

It had one of the best crowds for solving Linux issues.

Does anyone know if that crowed migrated somewhere else?

.Os.Linux.Misc

njsg,
@njsg@social.sdf.org avatar

@Methylcobalamin
#GoogleGroups should still(*) have the messages up to the cut-off date, but it might be hard to browse the archive of affected groups because of all the spam.

(*) At least until it gets flagged for having spam and Google blocks it because it has spam — yes, Google blocks groups for having spam that was injected via Google, it has happened before, there are still groups affected by it, and probably will happen again until somebody finally fixes some internal process...

#USENET

kyonshi,
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

@njsg @Methylcobalamin nobody is gonna fix anything with usenet/groups at Google. That's some dead project by someone who left the company decades ago

sinza, to usenet
@sinza@bitbang.social avatar

What platforms were used in the 80s up to about 1993 or 1994 for Internet servers? It can be , , , , the , or anything else that was on the Internet in that era.

My research indicates Solaris was very popular for web servers until Linux took over, and so I suspect it (and SunOS before it) was very popular for the Internet in general, but I'd like to hear from anyone with this sort of experience.

vga256,
@vga256@dialup.cafe avatar

@CodingItWrong haha i have a similar world wide web dating system - for me, it was Ultima VIII: Pagan in 1994. the first thing i did was use lynx to find a text walkthrough for the game, which progressed to searching for Ultima IX screenshots in Mosaic and Netscape a few months later.

pitrh,
@pitrh@mastodon.social avatar

@sinza During the 80s, likely VAXes running some BSD variety, also some Sun kit. Moving into the 90s, some sort of TCP/IP was available for more systems, but still BSDs or derivatives mostly. Linux only really started catching on later. And notably ft.cdrom.com, the download site back then, was one (rather beefy for its time) FreeBSD box.

ReK2, to usenet
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https://hispagatos.space/@rek2/112231145240283887 Stop Electron, stop using a browser as if it was an Operating System!!! Go #terminal #cli #TUI use your OS, not the browser for everything! And be liter, more ethical, your computer will love you! Use #Gemini #gopher #usenet #matrix #fediverse on TUI apps #vim #neovim as your text/IDE #mpv for videos and more... !!!

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