Well at least here in Finland, where we also have conscription, you go to a normal prison and serve six months (or at least it used to be 6months, the same as the shortest conscription time). And I’d like to note that there are several options for conscription. Full military service, unarmed military service (you serve in the military but don’t have to touch weapons, you’ll be a backline logistics guy or some such) and civil service, which is a bit longer, but you never serve in the military (essentially you work in an old people’s home or something for 13 months).
For one, we don’t have a “military prison”, as that’s an actual prison operated by the military. Israel does have them though. Or one with several detention centers.
Secondly, because when conscripts refuse conscription, they’re still civilians, as they’ve not been conscripted.
This one was about a reservist, so it’s probably different.
… I think the numbers might’ve been in the figures I mentioned (compare the occupancy numbers) and because a lot of the prisoners were prisoners of war, who go to these military prisons.
My point is that while a majority opposition to the war seems unlikely, getting 1/10th, 1/20th, or even 1/50th (=2%) of people refusing like the brave woman in the article, there’d be massive issues for the Israeli prison system.
They already started trying to lift regulations of the conditions in the prisons, so they could shove them even fuller.
Well I’ll forgo my dislike of linking this bullshit “news source”, so we can all be on the same page, more or less… No pun intended.
Eighty-four percent of those classified as security prisoners are currently living in an area of under three square meters in size, less than the legal limit, and 3,000 prisoners are now sleeping on mattresses on the floor rather than in beds.
This situation is potentially dangerous and “my biggest fear is that we will lose control over the prisoners in the prisons,” committee chairman MK Zvika Fogel (Otzma Yehudit) warned
They fear the exact problem I’m proposing would be easy-ish to exacerbate.
Last month [Nov -23], in the wake of Hamas’s devastating assault on southern Israel, lawmakers passed a bill allowing the government to declare an “incarceration emergency,” paving the way for the temporary lifting of restrictions on housing conditions for prisoners.
##Knesset extends Israel’s ‘incarceration emergency’ as prisons near capacity
According to the Israel Prison Service, 19,756 people are currently held in Israeli jails and ‘within a week or two, we will reach the maximum capacity for prisoners’
They mention the max capacity as 20,000.
And these must be military prisons as well, since I don’t think POW’s or “security prisoners” would be held in normal prisons.
He added that some 88% of Palestinian prisoners held for terror offenses — commonly known as security prisoners, are living in spaces of “less than three square meters per prisoner.”
Some genocidal right-wing zionist maniac then went on to say how these conditions are “a summer camp” and how “Hamas killers must be kept in the lowest conditions the law allows”.
And this is following a security prisoner getting a beat to death.
Answering a question about Israel's Knesset's vote against a Palestinian state, violating international law and the Palestinian people's right to self-determination, US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller says "Ultimately Israel will have to make its own decisions as every sovereign country does."
#israel / After a Decade Inside the Most Radical Circles of Israel's Far-right, He's Ready to Tell All
Q: Apropos tailor-made laws, the coalition agreement between Otzma Yehudit and #Likud stipulates that the clause in the law which prevents inciters to #racism from running for the #Knesset will be revoked. But it doesn’t seem to be on the agenda, from Ben-Gvir’s point of view.
“Correct – he understands that the way things are aligned politically does not enable this at the moment ... But Ben-Gvir isn’t really interested in this. He’s gathered around him a group that obeys his authority and does as he says. He has no interest in bringing Marzel and Ben-Ari back to the Knesset at this stage. But today, if the hard core of Otzma Yehudit would be allowed a little more political leeway, they would take the racial and ethnic segregation laws that Rabbi #Kahane promoted and enact them word for word. Absolute racial separation, with a hope for obliteration.”
Israeli Knesset Passes Draconian Amendment to the Counter-Terrorism Law Criminalizing “Consumption of Terrorist Publications”
The law amends Article 24 of Israel’s Counter-Terrorism Law to include a new offense, specified as the “systematic and continuous consumption of publications of a terrorist organization under circumstances that indicate identification with the terrorist organization”. This offense carries a penalty of up to one year’s imprisonment. The “specific publications” referred to in the law encompass expressions of praise, support, or encouragement of terrorist acts, direct calls to commit an act of terrorism, as well as documentation of an act of terrorism.
#CAIRO — After a long journey from #Gaza, more than 100 American citizens and their families have entered #Egypt through the #RafahCrossing. Jonathan Webster, the #USEmbassy in Cairo's consul general, said some of those families are telling him they ran out of food and water during their journeys. #Israel
“They don’t have time any more, We will go to #Jerusalem where the people who have the power to decide sit, where the prime minister and the war cabinet sit, where all of the #Knesset is, and we will demand to meet with them. We will demand to hear why our families aren’t home yet. “ - Yuval Haran
About 20 relatives of people seized as captives by #Hamas in the 7 October attack disrupted a #Knesset finance committee meeting on Monday, chanting: “Release them now, now, now!”
Ofer Cassif, a Communist Party member of the Israeli Knesset, has been expelled for criticizing Netanyahu's war against Gaza. Here, he is seen at a demonstration holding a sign that says, 'Anti-fascism is a Jewish and an Arab value.'
V Haaretz:
Opp lawmaker MK Gideon Sa'ar says the formation of an emergency govt hinges on #Netanyahu . "We haven't asked for anything except one thing - for us to gave the option to affect the decision-making process of the war" #Knesset#Israel#Gaza#hamas
I’m 18 — and facing jail because I won’t fight for Israel (www.thetimes.co.uk)