maeool, to random French
@maeool@boitam.eu avatar

Whatsapp, Telegram, Signal, Element... vous n'y connaissez rien et vous demandez que choisir et quels sont les enjeux ?

Déjà ce qui différentie Element / Signal de Telegram : ils sont chiffrés de bout en bout.

Quand tu envoies un message sur Telegram, la coquille est chiffrée, donc n'importe qui peut pas écouter ton réseau et ouvrir ton message. Par contre, ton message est envoyé aux serveurs de Telegram, qui eux peuvent le lire (pas de chiffrement de bout en bout).

nicoco,

@maeool #Conversations https://conversations.im/ ou encore plus proche de Whatsapp, son fork #quicksy https://quicksy.im/

Anti-écolo c'est peut-être extrême (on parle d'informatique, pas d'aviation…), mais c'est très gourmand côté serveur en ressource, ce qui explique l'hypercentralisation autour de matrix.org (auto-hébergement couteux). Alors qu'un serveur XMPP avec plein d'utilisateurs sur un raspberry pi 1, ça passe…

C'est aussi une ploutocratie décomplexée: https://matrix.org/blog/2022/12/01/funding-matrix-via-the-matrix-org-foundation/

eversten, to fdroid
@eversten@social.anoxinon.de avatar

"Xmas time, XMPP time..."

Christmas time is a good time for users. Conversations and monocles chat seem to be offered for free for a limited time in the Play Store:


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.monocles.chat

Both apps are also available in .

If you are an user and want to join the XMPP network you might have a look at

https://apps.apple.com/de/app/monal-xmpp-chat/id317711500


https://apps.apple.com/de/app/siskin-im/id1153516838

For other operating systems:
https://xmpp.org/software/

daniel, to random
@daniel@gultsch.social avatar

As it is a long, long tradition Conversations is available for free on the Google Play store for the last week of December.

This tradition was originally born so that when I meet people at Chaos Communication Congress and they ask what I do, they have an easy way to install Conversations. In that regard it's a very special year as we are seeing the return of CCC.

However if you are meeting loved ones to celebrate something else these days that’s fine too.🎄

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations

#37C3 #XMPP

tallship,
@tallship@social.sdf.org avatar

@daniel

Prefer to recommend that folks install #Conversations, #Cheogram, and other forks from F-Droid:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.cheogram.android/

#tallship #FOSS #e2ee #Privacy #FDroid #communications

.

nippon, to fdroid German

Unter kommt kein Update mehr rein...? Bei Google wurde schon lange eine neue Version veröffentlicht. Was ist da los?

4223,

@jr

Darum nutzen wir .


@nippon

poligraf, to Quebec
postroutine, to foss French

If you like Conversations, the XMPP client, FOSS, for Android, do not hesitate to support Daniel Gultsch, its maintainer.

"Daniel Gultsch is the maintainer of the Android Jabber client Conversations. In addition to that he develops various tools that aim to improve the Jabber ecosystem like the Compliance Tester or the Server Status Monitor."

https://liberapay.com/iNPUTmice

#XMPP
#Jabber
#Conversations
#FOSS

msquebanh, to Canada
@msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Some hard truths were shared over a business lunch in this week, exploring ’s toward people.

hosted two special guests at the ’i:Tseliya Health Centre on Wednesday, for the second annual with

https://www.agassizharrisonobserver.com/local-news/chilliwack-has-opportunity-to-do-something-different-says-chief-derek-epp-7103603

66d44ec09664f9c8f2fcd3ab474dcdd063f231408da7ab46453c82b43da6ffb4, to random

Why do so many people have an anime profile pic?

#asknostr #discuss #conversations

bjoern, to random

I wonder what's the state of the #XMPP client #Conversations 3? Looking at the project board and the activity of the C3-branch, makes me worry https://codeberg.org/iNPUTmice/Conversations/projects/2321

Does someone know more?

heiseonline, to Facebook German

WhatsApp: Mit mehreren Konten gleichzeitig angemeldet sein

Beruflich und privat: Für all das kann man nun gleichzeitig mehrere WhatsApp-Konten auf einem Smartphone haben.

https://www.heise.de/news/WhatsApp-Mit-mehreren-Konten-gleichzeitig-angemeldet-sein-9341235.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege

neimi,
@neimi@voi.social avatar

@heiseonline

Bei -bei mir mit @blabber- hab ich schon seit jeher mehrere Konten...

und das ganz ohne datenhungrigen Konzern im Hintergrund 😏

karson777, to random

if the fedi has some good xmpp / jabber group chats let me know

i like the technology but don't know anyone who uses it :sadlinux:​

#xmpp #jabber #gajim #conversations #omemo

kln, to foss

Anyone know of a #FOSS #android app ala #pidgin that supports multiple chat protocols? Mainly looking for #XMPP and #Matrix with E2EE and room/group chat support... other protocols are a bonus.

(Not asking for much am I... :blobnerd: )

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@kln

Maybe I would just use a #Jabber app, such as #Conversations by @daniel or one of its forks — and a private #XMPP server with #Slidge by @nicoco as bridge to Matrix and many other protocols:

https://git.sr.ht/~nicoco/slidge

But probably it does not support #E2EE...

jabberati, to Meme
@jabberati@social.anoxinon.de avatar

A friend just sent me this.

nanoelquant,

@jabberati @debacle should support it. It requires to manage keys, but in general claims the support. I haven't tried it, thought, but am about to.

This is basically the problem that the decisions in crypto methods are influenced more by theoretical scenarios than practical workflows...

cliffwade, to fediverse
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

It's always nice when you can have long, really good conversations with someone. Just talking about random things and making the best of the conversation in general.

This is how the #Fediverse should be at all times. We need more of this type of positivity around this place, especially after all the stuff that happened last week!

I encourage you to do whatever you can to make those good conversations happen!

#Mastodon #Conversations #Positivity

k8vsy, to android
@k8vsy@mastodon.radio avatar

For those on that use ,

What are some of your favorite from ?

caos, (edited )
kzimmermann, to random
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

And so, as part of my #selfhosting exercises, I've now hosted my own #XMPP server node. #Prosody is now running at https://kchat.port0.org/

(sorry, no open registrations)

Super easy to do, especially with #certbot, and now i've got one more service under my bag :)

I wonder what I should host next? IRCd? I2P website?

Hosting is fun again!

kzimmermann,
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

Also note that it's super basic in terms of XEP compliance, just about 50% of the 20 recommended by the #Conversations dev:

https://compliance.conversations.im/server/kchat.port0.org/

Maybe I'll add some new modules later :)

nanoelquant, to fdroid Ukrainian

Що першим ділом треба зробити з новим телефоном? Правильно, видалити або заблокувати купу передвстановленого туди лайна, після чого підключити #fdroid і поставити що треба.

Ще трошки доведеться тягнути з play, але не будемо про сумне.

Взагалі все це сумно, бо думати про новий телефон я починаю лише тоді, коли старий розвалюється в руках. І це завжди вольовий вибір між просрати гроші на це чи потерпіти ще кілька місяців-півроку-рік і потратити на щось корисніше.

З потрібного:
#k9mail (людський #email)
#conversations (#jabber/#xmpp)
#fennec (варіант #firefox)
#vlc
#librerafd (читалка #pdf тощо)
#feeder
#notally

kirschner, to fdroid
@kirschner@mastodon.social avatar

What is your favourite #fdroid app? Would be interested if I can discover a few new cool apps, I missed until now. Thank you already for sharing! @fdroid

kirschner,
@kirschner@mastodon.social avatar

@erd @fdroid Classic, big thanks to @daniel for his great work on #conversations 👏

Sheril, to mastodon
@Sheril@mastodon.social avatar

I see a lot of posts here about why the other social media platforms are terrible & is the one to rule them all*.

Personally, Mastodon is my favorite & I prefer the with decentralized servers & open source standards.

But I also don’t mind coexisting with the others. Rather, I think it’s a good thing. All of us should settle in where we feel comfortable & find community.

  • Overstatement, but a Tolkien reference always seems appropriate.
marqle,

@lostpanda @Brendanjones @zayathejew @Sheril

Well #Matrix allows encrypted and unencrypted rooms - your choice. And to be fair so did XMPP before #Facebook messed it up.

#Pidgin still allows #XMPP rooms to be #PGP encrypted with #otr if I remember - and there are some clients that allow #omemo

#Conversations and #Gaim both allow encrypted rooms in XMPP. Matrix just makes it easier.

Even #IRC had #XDCC but not many people used it. Encrypted chat rooms are very old.

strypey, to chat
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

Those who were scandalised by @element selling encrypted @matrix communications services to cops, and suggesting XMPP as a replacement, you might be interested to know that...

"Conversations_im seems to be doing its job at the German Federal Police."

@daniel

https://gultsch.social/@daniel/109828650796048124

#chat #encryption #Matrix #XMPP #Element #Conversations

kuketzblog, to Discord German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Service-Toot: Die Messenger-Matrix wurde aktualisiert. Die Empfehlung für Threema wurde angepasst, nachdem nun ein formaler Sicherheitsaudit für das Krypto-Protokoll vorliegt.

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/

#messenger #briar #conversations #deltachat #discord #element #imessage #jami #signal #simplex #siskin #skype #telegram #threema #atox #whatsapp #wire #xmpp #matrix

nanoelquant, to android

Just for discussion. I don't think that #XMPP / #Jabber was killed by big corporations and/or embrace-extend-exstinguish stuff, despite some harm could probably be.

First of all, it wasn't killed. It exists very well, but people rarely use it. I would try to outline a few reasons which could contribute.

  1. The "original" XMPP does not meet any modern requirements. People expect stability in mobile networks and other unstable internet, synchronization over devices and multimedia. All this was introduced only by later XEPs and is barely supported. I can recall only #Gajim on #desktop and #Conversations on #Android among the clients supporting Stream Management + Message Carbons + Message Archive Management + Receipts + HTTP Upload (about Jingle - I wonder if it ever worked at all). Moreover, when you try to adapt it for your needs, you can easily end up as a troubleshooting admin - some things just work wrong or occasionally.

(To be continued)

cheeseblintzes, to reddit

I moved from #reddit over to #lemmy last week... Much like I said here when I first got this account... it very much feels like the early internet.

Know what else it made me realize?

Redditors are fucking ASSHOLES.

I think I shall stay here and Lemmy, where true conversations can be had as opposed to snarky responses to... literally everything... for no good goddamn reason.

#redditmigration #fuckuspez #fuckspez #mastodon #twexit #twittermigration #humans #realpeople #conversations #discourse #discovery #humanconnection

pantalu_de, to random German

Welche #apps aus dem #fdroid store nutzt ihr so am meisten?

caos,

@zeitverschreib @pantalu_de ach ja, bei mir auch noch #Conversations - hatte ich ganz vergessen

kuketzblog, to Signal German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Nette Funktion: Der Messenger (6.24.4) unterstützt nun diverse Text-Formatierungen wie fett, kursiv, durchgestrichen oder Code in Monospace.

neimi,
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