xogium, to linux

So, this morning, after years and years of using the GUI in Linux, I gave up. The state of the GUI does nothing but deteriorate over time for accessibility, and it's exhausting. It's only getting worse. We're far, far away from what it used to be, years ago. Certainly, the QT framework has improved since 5 and now 6 came out, but GTK? Oh dear, oh dear... So, let's dive into it.

BrodieOnLinux, (edited ) to linux
@BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online avatar

Simple question: Do you daily drive or ? Let me know what desktop in the replies.

fedora, (edited ) to fedora

Which do you daily drive, Wayland or X11?

#Fedora #FedoraPoll #Wayland #X11 #Xorg #Linux #OpenSource #FOSS

publicvoit, to NixOS
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

Will #NixOS allow me to keep #Xorg instead of forcing me to adapt #Wayland in the upcoming years?

Any opinions on that?

Background:

I do like x-forwarding within my LAN. I work on business machine, ssh to my personal host and simply start any application which pops up on my local machine. This also worked with sound forwarding.

I never play computer games and so I do think that Wayland doesn't necessarily offer me much advantage over Xorg while I've read that x-forwarding won't be possible.

heisec, to security German

Sicherheitslücken im X.Org X-Server und Xwayland erlauben Rechteausweitung

Aktualisierte Fassung des X.Org X-Servers und von Xwayland schließen Sicherheitslücken. Die erlauben die Rechteausweitung oder einen Denial-of-Service.

https://www.heise.de/news/Sicherheitsluecken-im-X-Org-X-Server-und-Xwayland-erlauben-Rechteausweitung-9345096.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege

#Security #Sicherheitslücken #Xorg #news

adamsdesk, (edited ) to linux
@adamsdesk@fosstodon.org avatar
darktable, to random

may have marked as deprecated, but we still love it and its color management features! 😍 It is a critical part of our stack.

jbzfn, to linux
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

🗓️ Wayland, where are we in 2024? Any good for being the default?
—dedoimedo.com

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wayland-2024.html

#Wayland #Xorg #Linux #Opensource

thleemhuisfoss, to KDE German

Seit Donnerstag Nachmittag verbreitet mein Ex-Arbeitgeber die Ente, dass 6 nur im -Modus startet[1]. Mindestens seit Freitag früh gibt es einen Forenbeitrag, der das richtig stellt[2]; ein zweiter folgte drei Stunden später[3].

Bedauerlich, das alles, denn so setzen sich Faktenfehler in den Köpfen deren fest, die diese Forenbeiträge nicht gesehen haben.

1/ Hauptschuld sehe ich…

[1] https://heise.de/-9629588
[2] https://www.heise.de/forum/p-43671496/
[3] https://www.heise.de/forum/p-43672483/

itnewsbot, to linux

Welcome To The Year Of The Diagonal Linux Desktop - Sometimes you come across one of those ideas that at first appear to have to be so... - https://hackaday.com/2023/12/31/welcome-to-the-year-of-the-diagonal-linux-desktop/ #linuxhacks #linux #xorg

vermaden, to FreeBSD
@vermaden@bsd.cafe avatar

New 𝗔𝗠𝗗 𝗕𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲𝗕𝗦𝗗 𝗗𝗲𝘀𝗸𝘁𝗼𝗽 (AMD Based FreeBSD Desktop) post on https://vermaden.wordpress.com blog.

katzenmann, to Meme
@katzenmann@c3d2.social avatar
tuxedocomputers, to random
@tuxedocomputers@linuxrocks.online avatar

Slowly but steadily, Wayland is approaching. We tried to summarize what users can expect here:

https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Wayland-is-approaching-What-do-I-need-to-know.tuxedo

jrt, to security

The 80s want their security issues back!
oss-sec: FW: #XOrg #Security Advisory: Issues in X.Org X server prior to 21.1.9 and Xwayland prior to 23.2.2

"When prepending values to an existing property an invalid offset calculation
causes the existing values to be appended at the wrong offset. The resulting
memcpy() would write into memory outside the heap-allocated array."

https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2023/q4/181

adminmagazine, to sysadmin
@adminmagazine@hachyderm.io avatar
Linux_Is_Best, to xfce

If you're a Xfce user, and you happen to also be a Fedora user, may I suggest Lxqt as a possible alternative.

Fedora 40 (sometime next year) will be doing away with Xorg and going full Wayland.

Xfce has been slow... very slow... To develop for Wayland.

How slow?

They're the last mainstream desktop shell that still does not have most of their Wayland issues resolved.

I am not saying they will never achieve it (it's been years now, though).

#Lxqt #Xfce #Linux #Xorg #Wayland #Fedora

jrt, to twitter

So #Twitter is rebranding to the X window system? Someone should tell them that #wayland is the future!
#xorg

BrodieOnLinux, (edited ) to linux
@BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online avatar

I'm curious how many of you actually use a screensaver (not a lock screen) on #Linux, the screensaver fans are very loud about them but surely there isn't that many of them #Wayland #Xorg #Opensource

mikecarden, to linux

Innocent old me. It’s been years since I have even thought about /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I thought I never would have to again. Wrong.
Today I updated Fedora Linux on my PPC workstation and on reboot, I had lost my GUI login. That turned out to be because the systemd gdm.service had failed, because the X server had failed, because… well, because it had no conf file.
These days you’re not supposed to need one (it’s meant to auto-detect stuff during boot) but after the updates, this install needed one.
I generated one with the Xorg command, and while that command errored out, it seemed to generate a complete-looking config file. With fingers crossed I dropped it into place and rebooted and it Just Worked[tm].
Not a fun thing to debug, but I am glad to have solved it.
#linux #fedora38 #power9 #xorg

jbzfn, (edited ) to opensource
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

By all accounts Wayland has more than enough technical merits to be a daily driver for most users, I wonder why it evokes such hostility :thonking:

I'm gonna go deep undercover to expose these zealots in the path of obvious progress.

#Xorg #Wayland #Opensource

xan, to random
@xan@xantronix.social avatar

Wonder what the #XOrg Foundation is thinking about Elon's new logo

reinouts, to linux
@reinouts@mastodon.green avatar

So sad to read this. @xogium 🔗 https://tech.lgbt/users/xogium/statuses/110507457689374019

So, this morning, after years and years of using the GUI in Linux, I gave up. The state of the GUI does nothing but deteriorate over time for accessibility, and it's exhausting. It's only getting worse. We're far, far away from what it used to be, years ago. Certainly, the QT framework has improved since 5 and now 6 came out, but GTK? Oh dear, oh dear... So, let's dive into it. #linux #xorg #wayland #a11y #accessibility #blind

sjosjo, to random
@sjosjo@mas.to avatar

Just wasted a couple of hours getting #sunshine to work with a #wayland compositor only to find out virtual screens are not supported by #kmsgrab at all.

AND

#wlroots does not support faking the ‘connected’ state of an output.

Back to my nvidia twinview #xorg #nvfbc setup

I know nvfbc is dying, but it seems like there are no good performant alternatives atm. If you know any, though, do tell! 🥳

Simulating a ‘connected’ virtual screen should be something on the wayland roadmap, right?

myTerminal, to random

Watching every video promoting switching from to gets me moving with a plan, later only to face multiple hurdles of medium to high complexity.

myTerminal,

Fast-forwarding to a week (and 73 git commits) later, I'm impressed with #Wayland and can live without #Xorg with the least gaps in my setup. In fact, I did get several extra features with the newer tools.

RL_Dane, (edited ) to random
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

Strange behavior with #XOrg #xinput on #NetBSD.

Running "xinput enable 7" (7 is the mouse) causes newlines to be printed to the terminal, EVEN if both STDIN and STDOUT are redirected to /dev/null.

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