I have never been a huge Reddit user but I am obviously fascinated by the potential migration to #Threadiverse alternatives. Tell me friends, what’s better!? #kbin or #lemmy and does it matter because they are interoperable?! 👍 🙌 #Fediverse
Signs of the #RedditMigration in action: Three of the top 6 fastest growing #Fediverse servers are not only not Mastodon.social but they are not even microblogging servers - but rather are #Threadiverse servers.
That is only seriously good for the entire Fedi infrastructure. Diversity is strength.
I really think #Kbin and #Pixelfed will and should work really well together.
For the memes. and I mean that!
Imagine following a meme subreddit -- directly! -- from your Instagram account, or an Instagram meme page -- directly! -- from Reddit, and not by a reposter account.
Now with the Fediverse (and the #Threadiverse), this is reality.
Long live the Fediverse, and long live the Threadiverse!
I would risk a hot-take that Threadiverse today is where Fediverse was in April 2022: some infra exist, some long-established communities are there, and there is now sudden popular interest, stress-testing the network.
The number of new people with accounts is less important, I feel.
What is more important now is how many new instances spring up to spread the load? How many people commit to being moderators and otherwise tending to their communities' needs?
But what I find the most interesting and potentially game-changing, is that this is probably not just a move of people only using a given platform.
I am going to wager a bet a lot of long-term volunteer #Redditors are joining the #Threadiverse. :blobcathappy:
This means that there are potentially a lot of new people with the experience and willingness to perform perhaps the most demanding and the most thankless of tasks: community moderation.
@rysiek good thread! For the #threadiverse itself I think it was maybe closer to April 2017 than 2022 - with kbin in the nascent role of Mastodon. One big positive difference is the broader fediverse is much farther along so experienced admins popped up instances like blahaj.lemmy.zone, lemmy.world, fedia.io that could help absorb the influx. Totally agreed though on taking stock and building on it!
There is a new #Kbin app in progress by @hariette with the unfinalized name Kmoon. They are planning #Lemmy support as well! The #fediverse is stronger with the growth of the #threadiverse ecosystem
Ok so thanks to the #RedditMigration i set up a #kbin account myself - the #fediverse might include the #threadiverse but while following #Lemmy communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.
I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.
If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.
Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.
the #fediverse might include the #threadiverse but while following #Lemmy communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.
I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.
If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.
Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.
Other things that may need saying:
vanilla Masto doesn't render HTML or Markdown formatting so fedi accounts on that protocol will always see plain text versions. Some Masto forks will honour formatting, while most other fedi protocols have no issues rendering (and these days you will likely be interacting accounts coming from the Calckey/Misskey/Akkoma/Pleroma/WriteFreely protocols anyway, or they'll be using clients that can render formatting)
microblog will scrape fedi content that has the tag it's looking for, but there's a tag primacy delimiter. I can't find it in the documentation but i know it will look for the first tag in the post for sure. This is going to impact auto discoverability by microblog route as many posts come with multiple hashtags. The fedi protocols optimized for microblogging like masto has no such tag primacy rule which is why a frequent advice is to follow hashtags.
some non-masto fedi protocols, like kbin, can write posts with the Title attribute. That means if you write such a post and tag this magazine, it will also be posted/sent directly to the Thread section. Others can also post directly to magazines (and Lemmy communities) but the Post-status of the content will automatically send it to the Microblog section.
A lot of media cannot think in any other terms than VC-funded startups chasing hockey-stick growth, and proclaiming them failed the moment that growth slows down.
#Fediverse in general, and #Threadiverse in particular, are not VC-funded startups. They don't need that hockey-stick growth.
We're here to build resilient, equitable, safe communities, not to maximize shareholder value. Don't get distracted or disheartened because some people don't get that.
For those tracking the #threadiverse (#lemmy and #kbin): beehaw.org has defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Both have open registration and accounts have been causing problems on beehaw. Here’s the announcement https://beehaw.org/post/567170
It sounds like the right call to me, at least for now. I get it why everybody wants to have open registration to
make it easy for people migrating from Reddit… but without good mod tools, it’s a recipe for trolling.
"...new services always experience 'scalloped' growth. That’s where an outside event — a positive narrative about the new service, or a catastrophe affecting the old one — drives a surge of new users.
Some...try the new service, decide it’s not worth it, and leave — but not all of them. Each event triggers a high tide of new signups, but the low tide that follows is still higher than the old ...Surge after surge, the number of users steadily builds."
Well: current research is showing that even as larger servers grow, smaller ones are growing FASTER cumulatively so at least thus far decentralization is working in the Fedi as far as microbloging. And the growth now in #Kbin and other #Threadiverse servers I'd think has potential to make that even greater.
"Reddit is discovering the same thing that Twitter is also discovering: when you build a service where the value is all the free content that users provide, you’re going to run into some problems when you suddenly start acting like you 'own' all that, and you feel the need to put up paywalls for access.... at some point those users are going to realize they have the power to go elsewhere."
If I understand federation correctly, my reply should/could turn up on the lemmy instances involved in the thread - even though I don't have a lemmy account.
MagASEAN & getting around the threadi/fediverse
Based on my experience so far, new posts using the hashtags tracked will show up on the microblog. Old posts aren't going to get picked up....
Reddit Wave and the Threadiverse
As much as there is plenty of new people joining the threadiverse, the real wave starts today, with thousands of subreddits going dark....