malwaretech, (edited )

For anyone unaware, Google Chrome is currently rolling out an update that track your interests based on browsing history, then share them with 3rd party websites. The notification page makes it sound like they added a new privacy feature, but in actuality they automatically enrolled you into their tracking system and you have to go and manually opt out.

malwaretech,

For people who for some reason still want to use Chrome:
Settings > Privacy >Ad privacy, then just toggle everything off.

daiana,

@malwaretech I started searching for those settings and then realized that I don't have them, because my Chrome is not updated anymore (the OS is too old)
Yay for me!

sallyTAB,

@malwaretech Today was the last day of Chrome for me. Also swapped to DuckDuckGo.

Any other recommendations you might have, I’m all ears.

skountouros,
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@malwaretech

D..do I have to get rid of gmail, too?

cries

madargon,
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@skountouros @malwaretech It wouldn't be bad.

Heinzenstein,

@malwaretech
or shorter:
chrome://settings/adPrivacy

But that was all toggled off already for me.

Brianrh,

@malwaretech thanks from those of us who wouldn't know what to do, but still worry. Perhaps Firefox is a better choice for us.

res260,

@malwaretech I don't understand, this is way way better than tracking cookies no?

kentborg,

@malwaretech I don't see that setting, and my software is up-tp-date.

Hmmmm, must be because I use Chromium (open source) and not Chrome.

Oh, and I close my browser windows frequently, at which point the all the Chromium settings and cookie and other state files are deleted and replaced with those stored away in a tar file.

I've been doing this for years. Doesn't everybody?

kotzker,

@malwaretech also a good time to remind people that @Vivaldi exists, if you really need to use a Chromium-based browser.

Ragashingo,
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@malwaretech @dangoodin Yeah, no thanks. If something doesn't work in both Safari and Firefox it's probably not worth doing.

Axomamma,
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@malwaretech Don't forget to review your "permissions," also in "settings." Don't forget to look at "additional permissions" at the bottom of that section, because there are indeed some "additional permissions" you might like to control.

sugarpopspete,

@malwaretech Thank you!

gsuberland,
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@malwaretech I switched back to Firefox last month when I saw this being rolled out.

There are some things I'll miss about Chrome from a user experience perspective, but I also discovered some things that Firefox does better, so it ultimately ended up being a fairly neutral tradeoff with added privacy wins.

Jam123,

@gsuberland @malwaretech I've tried other browsers but i keep coming back to Firefox in the end.

gsuberland,
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@Jam123 @malwaretech I originally switched to Chrome for performance reasons; Firefox had serious problems with dropped frames during 2160p video playback and really struggled to handle large link history databases in user profiles (imagine waiting 500-1500ms every time you typed in the URL bar) but it does seem like the video issue has been fixed at least. Will be a long time before I can tell if the link history issue is fixed.

gsuberland,
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@Jam123 @malwaretech (this wasn't a shortlived issue; Firefox's compositor had a major issue with how it managed refresh rate cadance on multimonitor, which required a major overhaul of the way they were doing things, and I wasn't willing to suffer for a few years while they fixed it)

bouriquet,
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@gsuberland @malwaretech Was a longtime Firefox user after…yes, Netscape. Went to Chrome about 10 years ago. Now it’s definitely time to leave and go back to Firefox. Google has abused my trust in them.

orci,
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@malwaretech What's your browser of choice?

MagicLike, (edited )
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@orci @malwaretech Firefox - or something Firefox based, like Librewolf, Tor Browser, Mullvad Browser, etc.

hicham,
bootlesshacker,

@MagicLike @orci @malwaretech can you disable JIT in Firefox? I've always been led to believe the security it a bit more at risk from not being able to disable JIT but admittedly I've not looked in years

MagicLike,
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@bootlesshacker @orci @malwaretech thatvshould be possible over the about:config menu...

amiya_rbehera,
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lisacrispin,

@malwaretech thanks, I saw that but couldn’t work out how to opt out.

JaxxAI,
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@malwaretech which browser do you use, just out of interest.

rlux,
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@malwaretech employer-mandated, so I can't ditch it.

heiglandreas,
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@malwaretech Chrome is the best browser to download the best browser....

aires,
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@heiglandreas @malwaretech Use Edge to download Chrome to download Firefox 😄

mastodonmigration,
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@malwaretech Thank you for this. It is something like eight clicks to turn this shit off and it is kind of hidden. The pop up does not tell you how to turn this crap off. Truly a new low for scummy Google.

cjdaniel,

@malwaretech A couple weeks ago, Steve Gibson on the Security Now podcast provided a good summary of how this works. https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episodes/935?autostart=false

moelassus,
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@malwaretech Chrome is the new Internet Explorer. We desperately need more competition in the browser space.

gunchleoc,
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@malwaretech The first dialog that comes up really is a dark pattern from hell.

I have to use Chrome at work 🙄

Lizette603_23,
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@malwaretech I go to settings, privacy, and nowhere see the word Ad (alone or with privacy)?

taketwo,

@malwaretech
Well many people at work chose chrome over edge when all they have is these two.

andreagrandi,

@malwaretech I switched to Safari today, for this reason. I had a call on Google Meet and for the first two minutes colleagues could no hear me. Their voice was distorted. Everything was slow. Oh.. and I have an M2 with 32 GB eh 🙄 I bet this is intentional from Meet.

devrtz,

@malwaretech
I don't understand how ANYONE can voluntarily run this shit ...

rebeccafinn,
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@malwaretech thanks

jellycrystals,

@malwaretech Work makes me use it and lock all the settings 😔

666k9s,
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@malwaretech We bought a Chrombook cuz we needed a budget laptop. We're not techies here. We toggled everything off. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. 💻

dmarti,
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@malwaretech Also don't forget to check chrome://settings/cookies and select "Block third-party cookies." Third-party cookies support a superset of the tracking that Google's new ad features do. Chrome is the only browser that has them on by default.

(more info: https://blog.zgp.org/google-chrome-checklist/ )

MaureenLycaon,

@malwaretech Thank you. Dealt with.

zakyfarms,
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@malwaretech These settings don't seem to exist on the Chrome iOS app.

ddfruitspodcast,

@malwaretech I was not aware. Thank you!

admin,

Marcus said:
"For people who for some reason still want to use Chrome:

Settings > Privacy >Ad privacy, then just toggle everything off."

When I sent these instructions out to psychotherapists along with a version of the original post (and how to find "Settings" in Chrome) and a suggestion to try and educate clients, they were appreciative.

That said, I got the feedback that THIS instruction would be too hard for elderly clients to implement let alone learning to use a different browser.

Pin. Drop.

Hmmm...

Respectfully there are a few people out there who can barely use a web browser.

That said, I succeeded in getting my 82-year-old mother to use Brave. It's possible.

THIS is what we are up against.

Security is basically impossible in the general population.

I want to scream right now.

@AAKL @malwaretech

jwz,
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@malwaretech Starting to think that maybe using a web browser owned by the world's largest advertising company might be a bad idea.

adrian,

@jwz

You're mistaken: Google Chrome is not a web browser; it's an endpoint for collecting user data and credentials, and delivering advertisements!
In the very same way that Android is not a mobile operating system.

@malwaretech

odddev,
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dascandy42,

@malwaretech To opt out of Chrome tracking, install Firefox and never use Chrome again.

cruiser,

@dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv Do add additional tracking prevention filtering since a lot (!) of components and apps out there uses 's to function - it's complicated, I know, but their sh*t is everywhere 😒

juliank,
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@cruiser @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv total Cookie protection protects you from that tracking though?

cruiser,

@juliank @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv Sorry, no. Trackers are not all dependant upon cookies

juliank,
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@cruiser @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv well enhanced tracking protection.

Firefox already blocks the tracking bits, rendering an additional tracker blocker like Privacy Badger unnecessary.

And total Cookie protection is aptly misnamed because it doesn't just block cookies, that'd be stupid, it of course does the same for other state, but state partitioning I guess is a bad marketing term

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/State_Partitioning

juliank,
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@cruiser @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv so the way it works with the state partitioning, the trackers (that remain after the disconnect filtering applied by enhanced tracking protection, if any) can only track you per-site.

So for each site you visit you are a separate user.

So if you go search for coffee machines on shopping site A, you will get more ads for coffee machines there, but the same ad service won't know you searched for coffee machines when it shows you add on site B. Magic!

juliank,
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@cruiser @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv the reason that remain to use uBlock origin are performance, malware protection, and stupid invasive ads that take up half the page and you can't even find the content.

But trackers not so much and this may be enough for most people already. My mum has ublock origin, but basically that means I need to remote desktop in whenever it breaks a website.

cruiser,

@juliank @dascandy42 @malwaretech @Kjaerulv Please consider there may be limitations to your awareness on what options are at play and how they may interact. Have a nice day 😇 #profiling

joeposaurus,
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@malwaretech I'm in the EU, so I got an opt-in/opt-out screen instead of a notification one. Did take me a few seconds to realize that No, I do not want 'enhanced ad privacy'. And part of me was still slightly second-guessing that decision until I saw your post.

Linux_Is_Best,

@malwaretech

Or you can opt out forever, by downloading a better browser, known as, Mozilla Firefox.

Zesty,

@malwaretech something something “Don’t be evil”

croyle,
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@Zesty @malwaretech Which also should be remembered as the lowest bar ever set. And even then they gave up on it...

odddev,
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@croyle @Zesty @malwaretech Yeah, it's like these badges companies get for respecting the law. 😅😂

"Congrats I guess?"

Wikisteff,
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@Zesty @malwaretech They gave up on "Don't be evil" back in April or May of 2018.

In my head canon, the ceremony for this change was like that episode of The Good Place where Jason tells his crew, "Remember how I said don't do crime? That's over now. Go do crime." https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393

Tom_Huth,

@Zesty @malwaretech @manu I can remember this goomic from Manu. Look at the date, it's from 2019. Who wants to use Google/Alphabet services? Only for the advertising industry, right?

https://goomics.net/314/

Quilly,

@malwaretech
Google going like:
Hey look we implemented a shiny new privacy feature!
User: Oh cool! What does it do?
It tracks you!

User: oh...

generationX,

@malwaretech surveillance capitalism shows its ugly face.

Hovedorganet,
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@malwaretech I stopped using Google software years ago.

4gottenfuturist,
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@malwaretech Calling it a "Privacy Feature" is like saying a nuclear bomb has an "Urban Renewal Feature"

2dogphish,
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@malwaretech @sethadam1 Ok. How do I turn it all off?

larkonit,

@malwaretech By default, a lot of users doesn't change the factory settings. So, their personal information added in the tracking system. That sound like the start of the total control.

jonathing,

Even Edge is better at this point

sss000,

Turns out that using a browser created by the world’s most profitable advertising company isn’t the greatest idea. WHO’D A THUNK IT

cyberman,
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fuattorun,

@yasemincongar bilgi için teşekkürler

Crowpine,
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@malwaretech Switched back to Firefox awhile ago.

bladtman,

@malwaretech
Isn't this actually a lot better than the current model?
I get that Google is doing it because it cements their control of our data, but having your tracking data only on your device, and having the choice of what to share with what site seems like a massive improvement over "everyone tries to track everything"

vmtgutter,

@malwaretech I already tried to deactivate it

bcoffy,
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@malwaretech
How to disable this feature on Windows:

  1. Open chrome, go to the search bar
  2. Type in “Mozilla Firefox”. A few results should appear. Click the first one.
  3. Click “download” and run the .exe
  4. Go to the windows search bar, type “Uninstall” and select the option “Uninstall a program”
  5. Click on chrome, then click uninstall
crumbcake,

@malwaretech I opted out by immediately uninstalling chrome after that happened.

meercat0,
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@malwaretech That’s unacceptable. How on earth are they allowed to do that?

julien_leicher,

@malwaretech Nothing makes sense in this notification page. A browser talking about "tracking user's interest" to display "personnalized ads". Oh gosh....

stonebear,

@malwaretech that shit's illegal af in the EU, just sayin'.

Oiselarius,
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