Internet Protocol version 6

wmd,
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Also available for #ipv6 questions #GPN22

quixoticgeek,
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@wmd what's the best IPv6 address ?

zalintyre, German
@zalintyre@chaos.social avatar

Das Bord-WLAN im railjet hat übrigens kein IPv6, sehr enttäuschend. Wo kann ich mich beschweren?

#IPv6
#ÖBB #railjet #RJX265

nblr,
@nblr@chaos.social avatar

@zalintyre In Österreich ist da meines Wissens die zuständige Stelle das Salzamt.

zalintyre,
@zalintyre@chaos.social avatar

@nblr 🤣🤣🤣

SoniEx2,
@SoniEx2@chaos.social avatar

if you're an ISP, do you pay more for #IPv6 ?

CenturyAvocado,
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@SoniEx2 Do you mean for IPv6 allocations from your RIR (regional registry)? If so, for Europe (RIPE) then no, an IPv6 allocation is free. (As part of your normal membership).

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@Aquilenet 🎉
Maintenant la tortue danse, grâce à Aquilenet.

https://kame.net

#ipv6 #kame

tschaefer, German
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ripencc,
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Why are certain groups stockpiling #IPv6? Are the current policies adequate to address this? Marco Schmidt asks if we're allowing a Trojan horse in his #RIPELabs article:
https://labs.ripe.net/author/marco_schmidt/ipv6-stockpiling-a-trojan-horse-in-our-midst/

chrysn,
@chrysn@chaos.social avatar

Good news for users in Austria: Apparently, Wien Energie can now deliver state of the art Internet to homes. Handing out a single /128 seems like a curious choice, but you get a /56 through prefix delegation, which should suffice for most homes.

chsjuniper, German
@chsjuniper@mastodon.social avatar

Look what arrived today 🤣 Absolutely love it 👍🏻 #IPv6 #IPv6Buddy #Fun #Lab #IPv6Adoption

andre,
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Hm, so because I am so eager to understand things I know have the task to explain #NeighborDiscoveryProtocol of #IPv6 tomorrow.

From what I understand, I can think of multicast of like topics in MQTT:
One sender and whoever is interested can read from it. New hosts are subscribed to it when they go online.

By setting certain flags in #ICMPv6 their are messages for routers and neighbors. One for request and a matching respond (called solicitation and advertisement).

Now I would love to have a #SysAdmin confirm my understanding.

Because the teacher's explanation: 🤷

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@andre you want to ask @dentangle as he's been working with multicast as he founded @librecast .

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@andre you may want to look at libmld for the neighbourhood discovery stuff.

https://codeberg.org/librecast/libmld

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3810

koen, Dutch
@koen@procolix.social avatar

Hey @internet_nl

Ik krijg op de 'Connection test' van https://internet.nl maar een score van 10% terwijl ik toch echt alles op #IPv6 first heb staan.

Mijn eerstgebruikte nameserver is die van @freedominternet mijn internetprovider: 2a10:3780:2:52:185:93:175:43

En als ik internet.nl opvraag krijg ik toch echt ook het IPv6 adres terug:
$ host internet.nl
internet.nl has address 62.204.66.10
internet.nl has IPv6 address 2a00:d00:ff:162:62:204:66:10
internet.nl mail is handled by 10 vmx02.prolocation.nl.
internet.nl mail is handled by 10 vmx01.prolocation.nl.
internet.nl mail is handled by 10 vmx03.prolocation.net.

De test van https://ipv6-test.com geeft wel een 100% groene score.

Is er iets mis met jullie 'IPv6 only nameserver' waardoor de connectiontest niet goed werkt misschien?

IPv6-test.com is a free service that checks your IPv6 and IPv4 connectivity and speed. Diagnose connection problems, discover which address(es) you are currently using to browse the Internet, and what is your browser's protocol of choice when both v6 and v4 are available. Score 20 / 20

internet_nl,

@koen De volgende fix was nog niet uitgerold… https://github.com/internetstandards/Internet.nl/issues/1386

koen,
@koen@procolix.social avatar

@internet_nl dat kan gebeuren.

Zo heerlijk dat jullie zo lekker transparant zijn. 💖

farcaller,
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I actually finished it! My little writeup on and peering with : https://farcaller.net/2024/making-cilium-bgp-work-with-ipv6/ where I try to convince cilium to propagate the ipv6 routes to my vm host.

farcaller,
@farcaller@hdev.im avatar

@flameeyes I already have one wordpress instance I need to manage, screw that. I actually enjoy authoring posts in #logseq nowadays, I just need a sensible pipeline to publish them that doesn't involve running scripts in clojure, calling into hugo, and then scp -r.

I even started working on that. Clojure's nbb is amazing, being clojure but with all the node-modules you can eat (and your ssd can fit). I don't need much, clearly nothing of the hugo's customization abilities, just a live preview and a final render. Writing the hiccup-themed html that just renders into static tags is fun. Being able to access the logseq's DB directly is also really handy and you can do some processing if needed (like resolving logseq's cross-block references, pulling the images from the store, etc.)

flameeyes,
@flameeyes@mastodon.social avatar

@farcaller that's too much tinkering for what I have energy for.

I would gladly pay someone else to run WP for me, even, but Automattic gave up caring for bloggers a long time ago.

Ce_lo, French
@Ce_lo@mastodon.pirateparty.be avatar

Entendu au data center: "L'#ipv6, c'est le brocoli du réseau, tout le monde n'aime pas, mais c'est bon pour la santé".

jwildeboer, (edited )
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If you want to make sure that a lot of small e-mail servers (like mine) will not reach your e-mail server, because you really hate us folks trying to keep e-mail decentralised, just use the CSS blocklist by . This will greatly reduce your exposure to the even weirder small admins (like me) that try to use . Throw in UCEPROTECTL3 and/or L2 too to exclude us running our small, well-maintained mail servers at ISPs on small VPS or dedicated servers.

me_the_fl00f,

@jwildeboer Ok, is better, one less thing to think about. @neel

_,
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@jwildeboer shoot one to djw at djw dot li - if it doesn’t land, there are actual humans i can talk to.

Medium sized company, good exp across mult domains, and real people running it.

governa,
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Disable in : A Step-by-Step Guide (For All Distros)

https://ostechnix.com/disable-ipv6-in-linux/

UnderEu,
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@governa Why???

governa,
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@UnderEu @noipv6 because reasons! 😁

WestphalDenn, German
@WestphalDenn@social.cologne avatar

Beim der steht mir gerade im Weg. Da es hier kein gibt, sind wir mit verbunden. Eine öffentliche IPv6 haben wir uns schon geklickt. Es gab aber noch nie Berührungspunkte damit. Herausgefunden haben wir schon, dass es sich um eine /64 IPv6 handelt. Wo und wie fängt man denn jetzt sinnvoll an? Als Router kommt eine Fritzbox 6850 zum Einsatz.

WestphalDenn,
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Die IPv6 ist mittlerweile konfiguriert. Jetzt stellt sich die Frage, ob es sinnvoll ist intern die alten IPv4-Adressen zu behalten oder auch auf IPv6 zu wechseln. Vor- und Nachteile?

ToniBarth,
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@WestphalDenn Was heißt "intern"? Da Draußen im weiten Internet gibt es immer noch Anschlüsse ohne IPv6, das Abschalten dieser Adressen würde zur Folge haben, dass man über IPv4 dort nicht mehr heran käme. Das gilt auch für Situationen, in denen man via Mobilnetz unterwegs ist und der Anbieter dir nur eine v4-Adresse zuweist.

karma, Polish
@karma@101010.pl avatar

Zastanawiałem się ostatnio, dlaczego po 28 latach od wprowadzenia protokołu , nadal tak mało dostawców internetu go oferuje.

No i dzisiaj dostałem olśnienia. Zgodnie z zasadą "Jak działa to nie ruszaj" - dopóki się nie sypie, nikogo nie obchodzi i nie będzie obchodziło jakieś IPv6.

Tak sobie potem pomyślałem, że przecież (organizacja zajmująca się zarządzeniem adresami IP) mogłaby ogłosić protokoł jako przestarzały. No... ale tego nie zrobią. Dlaczego? Ponieważ trzaskają gigantyczną kasę na dzierżawie bloków IPv4.

Miliony sieciowców w firmach musiałoby się nauczyć IPv6, żeby poprawnie skonfigurować sieć, co generuje dodatkowe koszta. Pomijając już, że wiele z nich to samouki w Januszexach, którzy coś tam potrafią pogrzebać, żeby ostatecznie działało, ale to tyle.

Aktualnie mamy sytuację patową:

  • brakuje adresów publicznym; ISP przydzielają jeden adres wielu urządzeniom w różnych domach
  • IANA nie wyłączy IPv4, bo trzaska na tym kasę
  • ludziom nie zależy, dopóki internet "działa"

System jest zepsuty.

mikemathia,
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blindcoder,
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@mikemathia I have another 25 years of work life left. I'm probably good not learning it at this point :D

mikemathia,
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@blindcoder

Exactly my thoughts on it all.

talktech,

So, today I've decided to setup an IPV6 tunnel through my AsusWRT router.

After a few false starts, I now have some of my devices now getting IPv6 addresses and I get about 800+Mbps through IPv6 Speed tests in france!

#IPv6 #IPv6Tunnel #AsusWRT

CenturyAvocado,
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@talktech Interesting, I used them for a long time and over the months and years the packet loss slowly increased to a level where I could no longer use it any more.
I then made a move to a provider which had native IPv6 so didn't need it anyway.

talktech,

@CenturyAvocado Unfortuantly in my flat - the only +500Mbs provider is Virgin Media. When I move - I will hope for a native IPv6 provider.

bortzmeyer, French
@bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr avatar

Pourquoi il faut passer à #IPv6 : parce qu'on manque d'adresses IP pour les agents pathogènes (compte comploplo sur Twitter) :

lanodan,
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@bortzmeyer Étrange comme rendu… Firefox ESR?

bortzmeyer,
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@lanodan Oui.

margau, German

Has someone here an 464xlat #CLAT daemon running under debian, more or less in production?

I'm looking for the best solution right now, especially with regard to packaging an automation. I'm not really convinced (yet) about clatd though.
#ipv6

tschaefer,
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figgmeister,

My colleague Ilke has done a nice Roslingesque visualisation of and progress in south-east Europe over the past few years.

https://forum.ripe.net/t/rpki-ipv6-progress-in-southeast-europe/932

tschaefer, German
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wonka,
@wonka@chaos.social avatar

@tschaefer https://www.nsupdate.info/ shows both my IPv4 and IPv6 addresses at once.

BoxyBSD, German
@BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe avatar

Currently, has networks in DE, CH, DJ and US (East). Which would you prefer and should one of these location get added?
VAE, AUS, JP, CA, PL, SG, ZA could easily be added.

Unfortunately, nothing near India. Trying to have a look for it.

evilham,
@evilham@chaos.social avatar

#IPv6 rocks. Flawless physical migration with only a very minor downtime :-).
Thinking about networks as segregated network segments is just SO MUCH easier, this time around, I went #IPv6only and didn't even bother with setting up IPv4.

feld,
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@evilham @goetz > like pg_hba to limit hosts

honestly I prefer the same approach AWS uses here with RDS Postgres servers -- pg_hba is configured to allow connections from everywhere, then just limit access to the database with the firewall. Trying to add source host based ACL for each database on the postgres instance is kinda stupid

evilham,
@evilham@chaos.social avatar

@feld @goetz is it stupid though?

Yes, in certain cases it can be an overhead, but it really is just layered security. Should sth be funky with my firewall, each database can still only be accessed by their allowed hosts, also using authentication.

Of course this depends on the nature of the service, but I'd argue most of the time, the list of hosts that need access to a given database is pretty static and short.

I do prefer adding effective layers of security for little overhead :-).

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