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teajaygrey

@teajaygrey@rap.social

Incarnated as a human in the area of "Yay".
What others call the Bay.
Encountered networked computers before TCP.
Email? UUCP before SMTP.
I knew the late great Doug Engelbart, personally.
Helped patch an embargoed bug in BIND 2013-4854 by CVE.
Helped restore UNIX before C.
1 of 4 skratch deejays in ThudRumble's 33.3 Club as well.
Struggles amidst these Saṃsāric rings of hell.
My 2nd language is Japanese.
Default to English, if you please.
I'm a polyglot & read & write in multiple orthographies.

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grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.51 of #snac, the simple, minimalistic #ActivityPub instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

Support for custom Emojis has been added; they are no longer hardcoded, but read from the emojis.json file at the server base directory. Also, they are no longer limited to string substitutions, but images as external URLs are also supported (see snac(8) for more information).

Fixed a bug that caused some notifications to be lost when coming from a user in the same instance.

Added an additional check for blocked instances (sometimes, posts from blocked sites that were ancestors of legit posts were 'leaking' into the timeline).

On OpenBSD, if the disable_email_notifications server flag is set to true, unveil() is not called for the execution of the /usr/sbin/sendmail binary and pledge() doesn't set the exec promise.

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find #snac useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

This release has been inspired by the album Eternal Embers by #Meltt.

#snacAnnounces

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.51 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/23357

CI checks are queued. Hopefully they'll go smoothly?

Assuming they do, it will still be up to someone else with commit access to merge it.

Thank you for your continued improvements! On my mental ToDo list I keep on meaning to create a snac Port for OpenBSD, and it looks as if the unveil and pledge support continues to be refined, cool!

grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.50 of , the simple, minimalistic instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

Incoming posts can now be filtered out by content using regular expressions on a server level (these regexes are written in the filter_reject.txt file at the server base directory; see snac(5) and snac(8)).

Improved page position after hitting the Hide or MUTE buttons (for most cases).

Use a shorter maximum conversation thread level (also, this maximum value is now configurable at compilation level with the MAX_CONVERSATION_LEVELS define).

Fixed a bug where editing a post made the attached media or video to be lost.

The way of refreshing remote actor data has been improved.

Posting from the command-line now allows attachments.

Added defines for time to enable MacOS builds (contributed by andypiper).

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

This release has been inspired by the song The Raven by .

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.50 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/23182

CI checks passed OK!

It's up to someone else with commit access to merge it.

Thank you for your continued enhancements, bug fixes and contributions!

teajaygrey, to random
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

I admit, I have my biases.

I don't really know how others reach theirs, but I tend to derive continual inspiration in the field of computing from the demo scene.

The individual who tipped my off to @hyc's LMDB being worth a gander is (or at least was) part of Fairlight.

No, not the Fairlight CMI digital synthesizer used by Kate Bush in "Running Up That Hill" which has had retail prices ranging between: £15,000–£112,000. (chips on Reverb start at $60, software on eBay goes for $500.00+ I don't even see a full unit for sale in usual aftermarket retailers, though I see a cached listing for one for $16,000).

This Fairlight:
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=65400

polotek, to random
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This is an interesting question. And I want to give a thoughtful answer. The reality is that the backend has all of these same problems. They have also experienced an explosion in complexity. I think the outcomes are different mostly because they have more support. The reality is that cloud vendors have assumed a ton of the complexity and the risk on the backend. So engineers aren't drowning to the same extent.
https://mastodon.social/@floby/112107065645789780

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@polotek Is that really hard?

I've already done that and have not worked at Amazon nor used RDS nor Aurora.

"Maximum Database Size. SQLite can have a maximum database size of 140 terabytes (TB)."

I mean sure, if you're using Micro$oft Excel it is constrained to 2GB (it used to be much smaller). But, people need to stop pretending that terrible spreadsheet is a database and treat it accordingly.

There are definitely viable alternatives even outside of SQL implementation realms.

If I had to guess, @hyc's LMDB also does quite a bit better.

(From the Wikipedia page on LMDB: "Most former modern computing architectures had a 32-bit memory address space, imposing a hard limit of 4 GB on the size of any database that directly mapped into a single-level store. However, today's 64-bit processors now mostly implement 48-bit address spaces, giving access to 47-bit addresses or 128 TB of database size,[6] making databases using shared memory useful once again in real-world applications.")

I can't think of having hit a 4 GB limitation in decades. Even Micro$oft Exchange, which had the absolutely atrociously bad JET storage engine (same as M$ Access, avoid these things. You have been warned) had a 16GB limit for normal (later raised to 50GB) and 16TB for "Enterprise" licensing (though IIRC, that may have required PAE [Page Address Extension] capable CPUs before AMD64/x86-64 became more widespread).

Personally, I wouldn't trust anything to Exchange, or any Micro$oft product, but I have been paid to administer such crap (and lost so much sleep as a result) and am guessing others have too. The idea of scaling something such as JET to TB and millions of users is horrifying.

IIRC when @bifrosty2k was grandfathered into working at Micro$oft as a UNIX Administrator due to having previously been part of Hotmail (which Micro$oft purchased) Micro$oft management had a hair brained idea to migrate from FreeBSD+whatever other stuff Hotmail was running to Exchange & it was not smooth.

skinnylatte, to food
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io avatar

Speaking of how the food cultures you grew up with impacts you:

When I left Southeast Asia, I only knew how to cook mostly French and Italian foods. It didn't make sense to cook Malay or Indonesian or Chinese foods because, well I could buy it cheaply any time I wanted. In that region.

I learned quickly that because I had never eaten a simple meal my entire life, eating food that was prepared simply made me extremely sad. Like, mental health bad / my life is bad / why did I leave, bad

#Food

teajaygrey,
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@skinnylatte Oh "food stamps".

When I first got married, my then wife had booklets of those.

The stores which would accept them were few and far between, but not nonexistent.

Still, useful.

Fast forward to "the future" and "progress" and EBT cards.

Where: sometimes I never receive the card in the mail at all.

Only to show up to the Social Services office in person to tell them as much.

Just to be told: we mailed it.

Going around in circles like that, dark pattern, by design!

Or: getting an EBT card, in the mail.

But: never receiving the PIN (which is mailed separately; not activated like a bank/credit card).

Then going through all that rigamarole.

Only to have the card STOP WORKING after a month or two.

Then a year later, being mailed notice that my EBT card has been canceled, because it hasn't been used in a year.

The USA, excels at punching down and making starvation and "food poverty" far worse than it needs to be.

While simultaneously, THROWING AWAY all sorts of foods that probably weren't even bad so much as their "good by date" had passed.

(also see, @adamconover's "Adam Ruins Everything" episode segment on food expiration scams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1rZAT2GtmI )

SNAFU, misallocation of resources for maximal profits, rather than maximal usefulness.

teajaygrey, to random
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

/me sees EFF toot about contacting representatives about not banning TikTok because free speech for Muricans or something.

But, I do actually despise TikTok.

Can we amend the proposed legislation so that it bans all closed sores proprietary so-called "social" media surveillance crapitalism garbage?

No more Instagram?

No more Facebook.

No more X/Twitter.

No more YouTube comments.

undsoweiter?

If anything, banning TikTok doesn't go far enough.

If you think ANY of those for-profit surveillance capitalism corporations actually give a flying fuck about freedom of speech and do not actively silence and ban and shadowban their users for the most innocuous BS, then I am guessing you haven't been paying attention in the first place.

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@lispi314 We are in a rare moment in spacetime where some on the FTC appear to be attempting to use their powers for good to break up some of the abuses of power wielded by such corporations.

How long that will last, and how efficacious they will be in their fights remains to be seen.

Having lived through the time when AT&T was convicted as a monopoly and seeing the subsequent so-called "divestiture" and more recent re-formation of AT&T like a slime mold; I remain extremely cynical that the USA's justice system, even when leveraged with a conscience against ne'er-do-well entities, is capable of prevailing in the long run.

It sure would be nice to be cured of cynicism that is continually reinforced with empirical evidence though!

@screwtape

teajaygrey,
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@firefly I am not a lawyer, let alone a Constitutional scholar, but it seems to me that so-called surveillance capitalism is inherently in violation of the 5th Amendment and rights to privacy.

Then again, so is legislation such as CALEA and the USA Freedom Act (previously known as the PATRIOT Act) are essentially attacks against the fifth amendment entirely. Deliberate, and intentional, backed by a Congress manipulated into waging a war; which was never justified based upon the merits of why countries such as Afghanistan were invaded in the first place.

Many others have already decried POTUS George W. Bush's actions in that era as being reminiscent of the Burning of the Reichstag and the subsequent rise to power of the NAZIs in Germany leading up to WWII.

But, unlike Lord of the Rings (unless you watch the Peter Jackson movies instead of reading the books) there has been no "The Scouring of the Shire" to restore the USA to its previous non-Sherriff infested police state. So, instead we have many advocating to defund and disarm the police, while they continue to give themselves raises and Congress just passed a budget approving 886 billion dollars for defense in 2023.

We are well past the Eisenhower warnings of the "military industrial complex" which the coward coined during his exit speech, and deeply into the "mercenary industrial complex" full of chicanery and corruption, while the USA has what, over 30 trillion in debts?

That it hasn't already collapsed like the Roman empire millennia ago which overexerted itself on mercenaries and empire building is beyond me.

But, I don't need to look very far to see countless homeless all around me. I can just look in the mirror too.

This country is in a decline, at a minimum and Facebook/Meta/IG/Threads, Alphabet/YouTube/Google, Amazon/Netflix/etc. just seem to be fanning the flames.

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@firefly Well, in the 1700s there was still the conceit, "towards a more perfect union".

Which:

A. Acknowledged that the Founding Fathers were far from perfect.

B. Provided a framework that perhaps better might be possible.

I know better is possible.

Yet, I am not a politician.

I am not an attorney.

Today, like many days, I spent some of my time and energy looking into code and improving it, even suggesting typo corrections and PRs to others' code.

I am not alone in that.

But, we don't seem to be in a world that acknowledges that code is more widely used and more quickly adapted and improved upon than legislation and laws, even if more people, every day, whether they know it or not, depend upon such technologies.

Instead, those clinging to older systems, be they of finance, or governance, and their lust for greed and power and false ideas of wealth, seem to hinder us.

I'm in California which is supposedly "progressive" yet there is still a Death Penalty here, legally.

The 13th Amendment, did not outlaw slavery, it made it conditional, hence why the USA has one of the largest prison populations in the world and why many who are incarcerated never actually experience due process and jury trials.

In other words, I see a lot: who want to cling to old ways of abuse, that are known to be abusive, but what more can I do about it personally other than continually raise awareness and fix the things I can fix and stay alive to hopefully improve things in the future?

I don't know.

Still, I think that the USA was and maybe still is (especially post Brexit) better than the colonial UK was in the 1700s? Same for France and Spain in the 1700s.

A lot of the horrific atrocities caused on this continent's soils were committed by the forefathers of other nation states which do not seem to have done much in the way of reparations in the ensuing centuries either.

Sure France had their Revolution too. Yet, the Statue of Liberty feels as if it is a consolation prize.

teajaygrey,
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@firefly I am 99.99999999% sure that God thinks poorly of lawyers too.

They do the Devil's work.

I've met and worked with a lot of lawyers. I have never met a good one. So at least from are vantage, my opinions of them are not presumptive; but based on lived experience.

I have also slept in a spare room at John Gilmore's, and sublet another room from another EFF staffer and know many others at the EFF personally. On the whole, those I know at the EFF are decent people, but also: they aren't attorneys.

They miss, a lot.

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@firefly "If they have your children they have the future"

Y'know, I haven't spoken with my own son since 2012.

Even in feudal Japan, during the Edo period under the Tokugawa shogunate policy of 参覲交代「sankin-kōtai 」(translation: 'alternate attendance') daimyōs alternated years between service and being able to reside with their families who were forced to live at Osaka Castle and the surrounding areas as hostages.

Which is to say: when I read or hear the adage "land of the free, home of the brave" with regards to the USA, my mind automatically transposes it to: "land of the fee, home of the slave" because of how I, and many others have been, and continue to be treated.

tedu, to random

Good lord, if every time somebody on threads.net deletes a post they send me 37 (thirty fucking seven) deletes, we are going to have a problem.

Is this what cloud scale looks like?

sort | uniq -c
 37 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
  37 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18251121439244587/
  37 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841401083120503/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841401083120503/post/17991994490541560/
tail ...
2024/03/12 12:22:09 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 12:32:43 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 12:42:50 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 12:53:12 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 13:03:02 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 13:12:43 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
2024/03/12 13:22:37 eradicating https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/ https://threads.net/ap/users/17841400487440825/post/18082212910447361/
teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@tedu 37 is a curious number.

Could it be some threads' dev is also trying to show their affinity for 37signals, programmatically? o.O

Regardless: what a disaster.

skinnylatte, to BayArea
@skinnylatte@hachyderm.io avatar

As usual another exciting Chinese restaurant opens not in San Francisco, but in Milpitas

https://junbistro.us/menu

(This is a Yunnnanese restaurant. Yunnan is one of the most interesting mushroom hotspots globally. This restaurant has a 'mushroom conservas')

https://junbistro.us/menu

#BayArea #BayAreaEats #Food #Mushrooms

teajaygrey,
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@skinnylatte San Francisco doesn't seem to be the multicultural epicenter it maybe once was?

I remember my parents talked about going to see movies in China town for $.50 when they were dating.

That theater, is long since closed.

For me, the best place to see international films in the SF Bay Area these days is at the Cinemark in Union Landing (which is close to Newark and Fremont but not exactly an easy nor quick jaunt from BART).

That is, at least as far as movie selection goes. They aren't the greatest seats by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't understand the Hollywood/etc. industrial complex and doubt I ever will, but given that such a hegemony is now buddy buddy with Netflix and the like, you would think that if they wanted to get "more butts in seats" particularly post-pandemic, they would rip out all of their so-called "stadium" seating and replace them all with so-called "luxury recliners" with social distancing considerations.

But, nope.

Of course not.

makemagazine, to music
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Join us tomorrow, March 13th, for a with Cool Tech Zone's @jacqueline, as we dive into , "the player you wish you had in the early 2000s." Learn about their campaign to build a better with @crowdsupply by heading over to our channel at 4pm Eastern to join the fun! 🤘🎵🤘

https://www.youtube.com/user/makemagazine

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@makemagazine @jacqueline @crowdsupply I'm so stoked about this project and haven't yet backed it, because my finances are trash. ;(

Doesn't help that I got a flat tire on Friday and after going to two shops both of which claiming they would plug and patch it for around $40 instead bamboozled and bait and switched me into four "new" tires for about $600.

Argh.

grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.49 of , the simple, minimalistic instance server written in C. This time it includes some fixes to the Mastodon API code, which was in need of some love:

Mastodon API: Fixed a bug in how validated links are reported.

Mastodon API: Fixed a bug in search by account.

Mastodon API: Fixed missing Video type objects in timelines.

Mastodon API: Added search by hashtag.

Some cosmetic fixes to the web interface.

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

teajaygrey,
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@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.49 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22899

CI checks passed OK! It's up to someone else with commit access to merge it.

grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.48 of #snac, the simple, minimalistic #ActivityPub instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

A new instance page, that shows all posts by users in the same instance (like the public instance timeline, but interactive). This will help building communities.

Follower-only replies to unknown users are not shown in timelines.

Added verification of metadata links: if the linked page contains a link back to the snac user with a rel="me" attribute, it's marked as verified.

Added a new server-level configuration parameter: min_account_age. If this value (in seconds) is set in server.json, any activity coming from accounts that were created newer than that will be discarded. This can be used to mitigate spam.

Added a profile-page relation to links in webfinger responses (contributed by khm).

Fixed some regressions and a crash.

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find #snac useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

This release has been inspired by the album The Sudbury Inn by #Deleyaman.

#snacAnnounces

teajaygrey,
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@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.48 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22840

grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.47 of #snac, the simple, minimalistic #ActivityPub instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

Added pagination to the notification page.

The New Post... option now includes an optional field to set the URL of an ActivityPub post to be a reply to.

Fixed spurious notifications from the same user.

Fixed repeated mentions in the reply text field.

One-post only pages include the post content instead of the user bio in their metadata (improving post previews from other software).

Mastodon API: Added support for timelines by tag (for sites like e.g. https://fediwall.social to work).

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find #snac useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

This release has been inspired by the album Fire Hell and Holy Water by #GioliAndAssia.

#snacAnnounces

teajaygrey,
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@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.47 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22653

CI checks passed!

It's up to someone with commit access to merge it.

grunfink, to fediverse
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I'm glad to announce the release of version 2.46 of , the simple, minimalistic instance server written in C. It includes the following changes:

Added support for Peertube videos.

Mastodon API: Tweaks to support the Subway Tooter app (contributed by pswilde), added support for editing posts, fixed an error related to the edit date of a post, fixed some crashes.

Added a handshake emoji next to a user name if it's a mutual relation (follower and followed), because friendship is bliss.

Tweaked some retry timeout values for better behaviour in larger instances (thanks to me@mysmallinstance.homelinux.org for their help).

https://comam.es/what-is-snac

If you find useful, please consider buying grunfink a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/grunfink

This release has been inspired by the album Duality by .

teajaygrey,
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@grunfink I submitted a PR to update MacPorts' snac to 2.46 here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22454

teajaygrey, to fediverse
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I submitted a PR to update @grunfink's snac to 2.45 in MacPorts here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22283

CI checks passed OK!

It's up to someone else with merge access to commit it. Much thanks to @dan for the lightning fast merge with my 2.44 PR.

This time around, the Makefile.patch required a minor tweak, to reflect a minor tweak in the upstream's Makefile as well. Hopefully everything is OK? Preliminary testing on my end went alright but it took me a little longer to find sufficient focus to make that change than I would have liked.

(My own personal life is still sigh hectic and about the same as far as challenges [mostly housing/homeless and financial/debt related] C'est la vie!)

#snac #MacPorts #ActivityPub #Mastodon #NoDatabaseNeeded #TotallyJavaScriptFree #NoCookiesEither #NotMuchBullShit

teajaygrey, to fediverse
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I submitted a PR to update @grunfink's snac to 2.44 in MacPorts here:

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22135

#snac #MacPorts #ActivityPub #OpenSource #Mastodon #NoDatabaseNeeded #TotallyJavaScriptFree #NoCookiesEither #NotMuchBullshit #Mastodon

gabek, to random

So, an honest question here. I’m not a fan of the broad use of language models (to put it lightly), but it seems like small scale, targeted uses can be somewhat helpful with some really specific problems.

For example, I find some people refusing to read Owncast documentation and instead asking the same basic questions over and over. I think something being able to answer those questions for those people would be really helpful for them, so they don’t have to wait for me to get back to them.

But it seems from what I see people are pretty against that. Am I reading the room correctly? What do people think?

teajaygrey,
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@gabek "people refusing to read Owncast documentation and instead asking the same basic questions over and over."

If people can't read an FAQ, I have difficulty understanding how an LLM is going to help them.

teajaygrey, to random
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TFW newfangled website designs for restaurants have all kinds of dynamically animated doohickeys but don't even have a menu that loads, and the only link that works is to an Instagram account.

JFC, please fire your website "designers" with their it.sh bloated API garbage and find a middle school kid who can write static HTML for minimum wage.

teajaygrey, to Trains
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"The United States, often a pioneer in technological advancements, finds itself trailing behind more than 20 developed nations in the realm of high-speed rail. While Europe and Asia boast efficient and widespread high-speed rail networks, the U.S. has yet to witness the inauguration of its first such system."

sigh

From "Fast Track to the Future: 5 HIGH-SPEED RAIL Projects Transforming Travel Across the US!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHnAfMo57-4

#Trains #HighSpeedRail #Corruption #GMStreetCarConspiracyLegacy

teajaygrey, to Trains
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I haven't been to Montreal since 2006.

However, the "Not Just Bikes" episode on it recently was eye opening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yDtLv-7xZ4

Insomuchas, I didn't realize that the GM Streetcar Conspiracy (or at least something roughly analogous to it) ALSO occurred in Canada!

Did the Canadian justice system do anything to punish those who dismantled their mass transit systems? ;(

#Trains #Bikes #Trams #Montreal #Corruption #Cars

jacqueline, to random
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oh i completely missed that tangara got posted to hackernews lol

teajaygrey,
@teajaygrey@rap.social avatar

@jacqueline The comments...

"Mp3 players are one of those categories of products that have been totally destroyed by cheap Chinese manufacturing."

(wonders when Cayin got "cheap"?)

Liliputing comments also terrible.

"This will be DOA if they don’t get 24/192 running though the onboard 3.5 output and add at least one of the Hi-Res BT audio codecs like LDAC or LHDC."

People who genuinely care about audio quality, use BlueTooth? Lies.

"Hell, how is it $250? When it doesn’t even work with streaming services?"

My guise, have you seen the MSRP on the Cayin N3Pro, which also does not support streaming services? o.O (and that is on the low end of Cayin DAPs)

"All I see is an iPad here."

iPad? You mean that device that dropped headphone jacks in their most recent revision?

"MP3 players can be purchased on Amazon for less than $50. Including devices by Sandisk. Who would spend $250?"

Person who uses Amazon, clearly has no idea that Cayin N8 MSRP is $3299 and that is old and Amazon probably doesn't sell Cayin at all. (No wait the Cayin RU7 DAC is there for $289 JUST A DAC). The prices of the N30LE are fearsome (like $4,999 and it is already in "low stock" at Musictek)

I realize my responses are heavily Cayin weighted, but I have been a happy owner of three of their DAPs (one was stolen from me and I miss it).

I also have an Astell & Kern AK300 but even used that was almost $500 & I bought it mostly because it was the cheapest thing I could find that does 32bit 384KHz recording (bumping up from there to 784+KHz or 64bit recording starts to creep above $2000+), as a perk: it can also record DSD and like, wtfh does that anymore? Doesn't sound as good as a DAP but that isn't why I bought it.

TL;DR: lots of people online seem awfully ignorant about DAPs.

Oh yeah, none of the alternatives I mentioned are open source/hardware either. Cayin support couldn't even tell me if the Rockchip ARM CPU used in some of their devices supported Neon extensions (it does). ;(

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