dillo, to usenet
@dillo@fosstodon.org avatar

Playing with a plugin for to read messages. Posting may be doable too.

CC @yeti

The rest of the message.

njsg,
@njsg@social.sdf.org avatar

@yeti @dillo /me again wonders why stopped linkifying news: addresses

Sure, I can copy and paste in another tab, but this is still a downgrade from the previous behaviour...

(Sorry for the OT)

dillo,
@dillo@fosstodon.org avatar

@yeti is probably a good time to switch to another language other than Bash script.

image/png

publicvoit, to reddit
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

More and more previews stop working these days. Current example: my feed aggregator.

I want to emphasize that I've warned about that years ago:

Don't Contribute Anything Relevant in Like Reddit, , and for most parts of my arguments even :
https://karl-voit.at/2020/10/23/avoid-web-forums/

ademir_lemmy_br,
@ademir_lemmy_br@mastodon.social avatar

@publicvoit why not Lemmy?

publicvoit,
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

@ademir_lemmy_br Check out my article (or talk) and you will see that lemmy doesn't address all the issues I collected about web forums.

pitrh, to usenet
@pitrh@mastodon.social avatar

Did you ever usenet? ... https://medium.com/tech-and-me/did-you-ever-usenet-437ccb6f9208 -- the article is from someone roughly my age, a reminder where we came from (and all social media, to my mind, have been half-assed attempts at re-inventing USENET) #usenet #history #news #nntp

slink,
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

@pitrh wait. that is an article about usenet on medium with a screenshot of google groups? 🤦🏻‍♂️

tth, to random

Allo #interhack ! Un réseau #NNTP pour les hackerspaces francoscriptants, ça vous branche ?

kyonshi, to usenet
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

trying out some stuff on the side regarding my #usenet setup. turns out #leafnode doesn't even take more than a second to get all groups from a normal news server. for the #nntp server on my local bbs it is taking the better part of two hours so far, and it's not even finished yet.

I think that's more an issue with the nntp implementation in synchronet though.

Quinn9282, to SmallWeb
@Quinn9282@mas.to avatar

Redoing my #introduction again since it's now been a quarter of a year since I first joined Mastodon:

Hello! 👋 I'm an #autistic Gen Z-er born in the mid-2000s, and I go by the name "Quinn" (with he/him pronouns) on most Internet platforms. I'm a fan of #Indieweb, #SmallWeb, #RSS, #NNTP, and the #Fediverse! 😁

The only two social media platforms I currently use are Mastodon and YouTube. I haven't really dabbled with any other social medias at this point.

My website is https://quinn9282.neocities.org!

Quinn9282, to RSS
@Quinn9282@mas.to avatar

Came across this really cool service called Feedbase. It turns your #RSS feeds into #NNTP (Newsgroup) posts that you can comment on! It's definitely grown quite a bit in the last year per the statistics on the website.

Feel free to add your own RSS feeds to your blog or newsletter to the service on the website to help grow the service! It's currently hosting 861 feeds, and serving 5,319,339 articles at the time of this post.

https://feedbase.org

#Indieweb #Blogging #Newsletters #SmallWeb

otl, to usenet
@otl@hachyderm.io avatar

Accessing Mastodon and the fediverse via email:
https://www.olowe.co/tmp/fedimail.mp4
An experimental #IMAP and #SMTP interface.
I feel like #NNTP #Usenet interface would be more appropriate.
But gotta start somewhere!
Threading and replies work ok too (so far!).

@fediverse

otl,
@otl@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Ha good eyes! :) I have basic receive-only working with Lemmy using a virtual file system interface I wrote (pkg.go.dev/olowe.co/lemmy). Just realised we actually spoke about this a while ago haha (lemmy.sdf.org/post/1035382 )

But synchronising to disk is super inefficient: too many API calls. Should subscribe using ActivityPub proper and store updates received as RFC 5322 messages.

From there we could serve the messages via NNTP. Then, finally, we could use nntpfs(4)

otl,
@otl@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh wow thanks! :) One program syncs my home Mastodon timeline, with all replies, to a Maildir. Dovecot serves that over IMAP. Sending involves a custom SMTP server which reads the mail message and creates a post from it.

For Mastodon it was all about converting statuses (toots? Posts?) into RFC 5322 messages. Using the status’ ID as Message-Id in the message header is handy. Mail clients do the heavy lifting of rendering threads thankfully!

TwiceShy, to usenet

If any of my fellow poor millennials are also interested in text based #Usenet and going back to the world wide web’s social roots.

https://www.eternal-september.org/

If you’re like me and too young to get the name. It’s a funny and kinda sad tbh part of net history.

Also very into the idea of trying to set up an off grid, text only, hyper local, community #LoRa #nntp server in PDX… anyone want to tinker? Is this a thing?

kyonshi, to bbs
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

set up a on my spare , and it works!

Mostly. I am still trying to get it to work with , and I still need to get email working.

I'm not sure why I should have a BBS in the first place, but there you go.

It mostly is actually intended as a server for groups. And it largely works. I can USE it as a server. I just can't pull any new articles from other servers right now, which makes this somewhat less than ideal.

lextenebris,
@lextenebris@vivaldi.net avatar

@ericsfraga @kensanata @kyonshi Oh yes, the Great Renaming. I remember it well. I also remember having to change my entire feed file as a result which was a bit of a pain in the ass.

The funny thing is that we actually deal with more individual elements/posts with the modern "firehose theory" designs that completely ignore useful tools like threading, score files, well-designed filters, and all the rest. We are using objectively worse tools to dig through objectively more content.

I actually quite resent this fact.

I have a strong suspicion that if you were to re-implement RFC 822 as a social media protocol and give us a clean, non-Emacs version of GNUS or SLRN to interface with it, you could spawn a renaissance of social media design.

Which means – it will never happen.

I sometimes miss rec.games.mecha from the old days. Flame wars and all. Rec.games.frp.misc, maybe somewhat less so.

kyonshi,
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

@lextenebris @ericsfraga @kensanata I tried posting on rec.games.mecha, but it seems to be set to moderated and abandoned

amoroso, to usenet
@amoroso@fosstodon.org avatar

The sad state of my quest for a Usenet NNTP GUI client for Linux.

Pan is awesome but the binaries of my Debian Bullseye based distro, Crostini, are ancient and buggy. The Pan project distributes no .deb or other packages. Building from source requires recent versions of tools not in Bullseye.

Very few other GUI options available. Even fewer with .deb or other binaries.

jchaven,
@jchaven@social.sdf.org avatar

@amoroso

Have you tried Thunderbird?

amoroso,
@amoroso@fosstodon.org avatar

I'm checking out Thunderbird as an NNTP client.

I can't figure how to set up the username and password of my account for the NNTP server and the passowrd of my email account for the outgoing SMTP server. It's not clear whether it's even possible.

#usenet #nntp #thunderbird

smallcircles, (edited ) to fediverse
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Added 15 projects to the Delightful Fediverse Apps list.

https://delightful.club/delightful-fediverse-apps

Finally got rid of the backlog in one list. Now finding courage and time to update the huge backlog of the Developer Resources list.

Nicest project? I really liked , a server that allows you to connect with an client to your instance..

https://koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/tree/README.md

chimay, to fediverse
@chimay@bsd.cafe avatar

With all that effervescence, I just rediscovered with , and realized that also support servers. Going back to the source in a way.

chimay,
@chimay@bsd.cafe avatar

@yeti @profoundlynerdy

so, if I understand correctly, usenet is a newsgroup hierarchy that uses nntp as protocol ?

> ...and as long as tag hygiene in the fediverse doesn't get a surprising
> boost, I don't even see how the fediverse matches at all the hierarchy
> of groups/topics style NNTP is designed for. It will not blend into
> another well.

lemmy can do it, at least in one level.

you could have :

fediverse.mastodon.bsd-cafe.coolhashtag
fediverse.lemmy.lemmy-world.vim

Not an exact mirror, but a start.

profoundlynerdy,
@profoundlynerdy@bitbang.social avatar

@chimay @yeti

> If I understand correctly, Usenet is a newsgroup hierarchy that uses NNTP as protocol?

Correct. There are other newsgroups out there that use NNTP, it's just that Usenet is the oldest (est. 1978) and largest. It started as a "poor man's ARPANET."

Usenet has previously been passed over UUCP, NNTP, air-mailed magnetic tapes (yes, really) and x25 data links. So, I thought #ActivityPub would be worth trying next.

lispi314, to usenet
@lispi314@mastodon.top avatar

I have complicated feelings regarding and due to some server-centric aspects.

Granted due to message the death of any given instance isn't catastrophic and moving is largely unnoticeable, but it still puts some hurdles on usability in adverse conditions.

It still fulfills most of the characteristics handily, but that's still a nagging thought, since /most/ instances demand fairly high-uptime to peer and don't allow such instability from peers.

lispi314,
@lispi314@mastodon.top avatar

@simon_brooke Yeah, the UUCP/NNCP-accepting instances are of the ones that don't have such uptime demands.

simon_brooke,
@simon_brooke@mastodon.scot avatar

@lispi314 UUCP – or store-and-forward more generally – is not a bad model for intermittent connections and low energy situations.

julianwki, to random German
@julianwki@chaos.social avatar

Betreibt noch jemand einen NNTP Server, an dem ich mit meinem Client mitlesen/schreiben kann? Very low traffic...

#nntp

julianwki,
@julianwki@chaos.social avatar

Bin jetzt bei https://www.eternal-september.org/ fündig geworden.
#nntp

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