maegul, to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

Lemmy is experimenting with plugins.

https://lemmy.ml/post/15187879

Still in experimental prototyping stages it seems, but cool to see. Hope it gets worked on and works out well.

Could be an interesting experiment for the Fedi in general?

It’s using rust’s extism, so webaasembly for plugins.

ayo, to random
@ayo@ayco.io avatar

Is it possible to participate in a lemmy discussion from a mastodon account? This one, for example, how can I view it from my mastodon? https://lemmy.ml/post/59536

2UgsGEBGsEc8uRJ_, to lemmy Polish

@ftdl Będzie kiedyś instancja dla #Lemmy?

Sandra, to random

One drawback of POSSE is that you’re bolstering the value of the silos. Instagram grows more powerful with your pictures on it and GitHub thrives on your repos.

https://indieweb.org/POSSE

tallship,

@Sandra

Sandra, I'm really glad I had the opportunity to catch your review, or rather, observation of POSSE, especially the long term ramifications from the PoV of #DeSoc.

For quite some time now, I've been advocating for something that describes a not so dissimilar modus operandi for extricating subjugated chattel from that of the #Borg_Collective.

POSSE has merit, being a partial design for disrupting the deprecated monolithic silos, but IMO actually falls short by only seeking to coexist with it, instead of completely obviating them.

As a dedicated FOSS and Privacy Advocate, here's my take on how we can follow a best practices modus operandi, achieving what can eventually relegate today's monolithic silos into the marginalized zone, sending them into the abyss of downtrodden insignificance.

The model can work from any Fediverse platform, but platforms that support a rich feature set with longform authoring capabilities work best, having the greatest impact. For those stuck using masto for the time being, their impact will be less dramatic, but nonetheless still valid.

The model I've been advocating goes like this:

  1. ) Create original content on Fediverse enabled properties you own, or cite (link to) content NOT residing in the deprecated silo space (Twitter, Medium, TikTok, InstaSPAM, YouTube, Faceplant, Reddit, Linkedin, Etc.). You can do this from pretty much any Fediverse platform - even masto, with its paltry 500 character limit. A paragraph or so as a rule of thumb, just a teaser/headline to create interest for the reader to follow the link.
  2. ) Optional: For added impact and if you have any, from your traditional silo account(s), as well as from less capable clones like masto, offer up a teaser, perhaps a paragraph or so, with a link to the URL of this original content.
  3. ) If you're merely pointing to an article or resource created by someone else that exists independently, that's it. Well done! If you created your original content in long form on a more capable Fediverse platform than masto - there are many excellent Fediverse platforms for doing this. A few of those are:
  1. ) Endeavor to never publish any actual content (articles, news, photos, videos) on platforms in the deprecated monolithic silo space. Instead, it is preferable to publish your photos, videos on demand, and textual content on a Fediverse Platform well suited to this. i.e., PeerTube for VoDs, Pixelfed for images, and one or more of the platforms mentioned above for textual or multimedia based content such as news articles, HowTo's, tutorials, recipes, Etc.
  2. ) Occasionally, you may find it necessary to link to content in the deprecated silo space - a video on YouTube, for example. You may be able to clone videos (depending on licensing) to a PeerTube server, but if not, then make sure you sanitize those videos by using tools such as Invidious that shield the viewer from tracking and other privacy disrespecting constructs built into those silo systems.

The philosophy here is to ensure that anything posted into the deprecated monolithic silo space entreats the reader/viewer to leave that space in order to consume the content.

This practice insures that the consumer of that information does so in a protected, privacy respecting place, presumably built on FOSS, and in the Fediverse. It further serves to familiarize the consumer in an easy and unassuming way, with Fediverse platforms that do not track them or mine their privacy.

For the Fedizen however, it provides a one way transit - anyone seeing a teaser/headline/intro on say, Twitter or Faceplant, is immediately catapulted away from those denizens of commodification that packages and inventories the consumer as the product for sale, depriving those platforms of the necessary revenue that sustains them - death by atrophe. No blissful coexistence, every single post inside the deprecated monolithic silo space is in fact an egress point bringing the consumer into a free and privacy respecting environment.

Obviously, an article on the New York Times website isn't ideal, but it isn't strictly one of the monolithic silo systems listed above either. In this case specifically, it's a walled garden however, so you're directing the consumer to a place where they'll be privacy mined anyway, which offers three other possibilities:

  • You can, and should unless you feel you absolutely must, elect not to send someone to that resource
  • You can, under certain circumstances, copy that data verbatim elsewhere and provide a link to that place where you copied the data.
  • You can also probably check with the AP, since we're talking about a newspaper outlet, most of which actually pull their news from the Associated Press and other similar networks that provide free access, which you can link to instead.

There's simply no way to completely ensure being so mindful of your consumers without precluding yourself from linking to some forms of interesting content - but the point here is that almost without exception, you're not sending anyone into the deprecated monolithic silo space - you're sending them into the Fediverse, where they'll begin to become comfortable with, eventually creating their own accounts here.

I recently had some discussions with a few folks who completely turned their back on things like Twitter, which is good because it is one of those social networking systems that engages in tracking and privacy mining. Those individuals have made it easy for themselves by simply putting the existence of those privacy disrespecting resources completely outside the real of consideration - it's not like anyone is going to suffer because they didn't visit Faceplant. They may suffer a bit of withdrawals, but bear the following in mind:

There are liquor stores on virtually every corner in the real world. They sell booze at liquor stores. An alcoholic must come to terms with this and learn to live with this fact, making a conscious choice to buy, or not to buy booze in those stores, or even go outside where the temptation is even greater.

That's not the greatest metaphor I know, or maybe I just didn't deliver it well. Either way, I hope that in understanding this death by atrittion model, that people can make better informed decisions about privacy for themselves and others.

I'd love to hear your comments and thoughts on the matter, and any tools that help assist folks in addressing privacy concerns. Please feel free to share this by boosting to raise awareness within the Fediverse (and beyond) of all the excellent platforms available to everyone in the Fediverse. I realize I left out large sectors of the Fediverse that can be factored into this formula - the link aggregators and forums like #NodeBB, #Lemmy, #Kbin, #Mbin, #Discourse, and more. I didn't even directly address the purpose built single user instance platforms. Maybe we can give them some coverage in a later edition :)

All the best!

#tallship

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InternetIsScary, to lemmy French
@InternetIsScary@mstdn.social avatar

What Would You Choose?

You are at a bar, someone came up to you and tapped you on the shoulder and whispered in your ear “you shall receive this ability” of which what would you choose you would have forever? I would personally go with talk to animals.

@lemmy

TheMetalDog, to lemmy
@TheMetalDog@mastodon.social avatar



Here's Gene Simmons Performing Motörhead's 'Ace of Spades': The Demon Pays Tribute to Lemmy
On 'Ace of Spades,' Gene Simmons gave vocal duties to drummer Brian Tichy while he focused on replicating Lemmy's incredible style on the bass guitar.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/heres_gene_simmons_performing_motrheads_ace_of_spades_the_demon_pays_tribute_to_lemmy.html

snoopy, (edited ) to fediverse

Un SSO pour le fédiverse ?

@opensource
Je me demandais s'il n'existe pas une app qui gèrerait nos comptes du

Actuellement ya plein de logiciels comme ect...

Et pour avoir accès à toute les fonctionalités, on a souvent recours au multicompte.

Pourquoi ne pas avoir une seule appli qui crée un compte maitre sur notre ordi et syncronise tes posts, tes abonnements, tes filtres ? Si l'instance tombe en raison de son budget, problème technique on conserverait nos données et on pourrait migrer facilement.

Cette meme appli pourrait gérer les alias. Et également cross-signer notre identité sur les appareils utilisés ?

Qu'en pensez-vous ? Ya des projets en ce sens ? Quel en serait le risque ou les limites ?

Pour moi l'oblectif est de faciliter la sauvegarde et l'exportation des données.

TheMetalDog, to lemmy
@TheMetalDog@mastodon.social avatar
Vardy, to random Spanish
@Vardy@rebel.ar avatar

Alguien probó seguir una comunidad de Lemmy desde acá y le funcionó? 👀

tuneintodetuned,
@tuneintodetuned@mastodon.social avatar

@Vardy
Funciona, pero no del todo si sigue igual que el año pasado. Nosotros creamos grupos/comunidades en #Kbin (@detun3d) y #Lemmy (@detun3d). Hicimos otra para organizar partidas en juegos abandonados como hicimos en Reddit (@raidstream) pero las dos primeras quizá te sirvan mejor para experimentar y ver si te sirve o prefieres esperar a los grupos de #Pixelfed.

voyagerapp, to lemmy
@voyagerapp@mastodon.social avatar

Introducing vger.social: A lemmy instance for Voyager supporters 💙

https://vger.social/post/393027 #lemmy

shalien, to lemmy French
@shalien@projetretro.io avatar

Voir que utilise une crate (bibliothèque logicielle pour le langage rust) qui s'appelle i-love-jesus
Allez vois la crate en question, voir un badge "made with freedom from porn"
Voir que c'est un vrai truc apparemment https://madewithfreedomfromporn.dullbananas.com/

Wtf

PS: le wtf est plus lié au nom du paquet et aux découvertes subséquentes. Pas à la démarche elle même .

maegul, (edited ) to ghost
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

I think the and federations pose interesting questions about what platforms can and should be.

Do we actually want blogs and feeds of blogs folded into a mastodon/microblog social feed?

Do we want to read and comment on blogs on mastodon?

Do we want all the diversity of the fediverse fed into a single platform's UI and hope that it works well?

Are we worried that some choices by our platform or instance admin might hinder this process?

I'm rather skeptical.

1/

vetehinen,

@Loukas the main issues I've found with it:

  • the way a community just shows up as boosts of all posts and replies to them is just not a great way to represent them here, I believe there are multiple ways this experience could be improved from either side. Already somewhat better with platforms/clients that always show the parent post that is being replied to

  • in order to post (a reply) to a Lemmy community from (etc.) you need to know you have to mention the community by name which doesn't happen automatically

  • for a top-level post in to a community there are formatting rules like making the first line of the content the title

  • Lemmy content discoverability is poor on Mastodon because hashtags aren't really a thing for it

Not all of these have to be fixed to make federation useful and to me it doesn't seem like the biggest issues are insurmountable at all... do you have others in mind or have reasons why these cannot be improved?

@maegul

oblomov, to math
@oblomov@sociale.network avatar

So I wanted to post a question about a problem, and I wanted to reach the widest possible math community on the . Aside from using the correct tag, my first thought was to find a or community/magazine to cc in the post. And … there isn't one. There's many. Just from a quick search I found
https://lemmy.ml/c/mathematics
https://lemmy.ml/c/math
https://kbin.social/m/math
so now the question becomes … should I cross post to all of them? Or is that poor form?

Long_live_rock_n_roll, to lemmy
@Long_live_rock_n_roll@mastodon.world avatar

"WE ARE MOTÖRHEAD … AND WE PLAY ROCK N’ ROLL!"♠️

📸 Nidhal Marzouk

Taffer, to lemmy
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

Weird Lemmy thing… I appear to be able to create a post for KDE@lemmy.kde.social, but if I subscribe to it, the sub is pending.

Is my post pending? Is it going to vanish into the ether? Can anyone (ie, bots) post there without subscribing?

I'm on the programming.dev instance if that matters. 🤷

#lemmy

TheMetalDog, to lemmy
@TheMetalDog@mastodon.social avatar

#TheMetalDogArticleList
#BLABBERMOUTH
SCORPIONS: JAMES KOTTAK 'Was A Fantastic Person'
During an appearance on the April 12 episode of SiriusXM's "Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk", SCORPIONS guitarist Rudolf Schenker commented on the recent passing of the band's longtime drummer James Kottak.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/scorpions-james-kottak-was-a-fantastic-person

#JamesKottak #RIP #Scorpions #Drummer #LongtimeMember #Lemmy #MikkeyDee

mima, to lemmy

Tbh I think the like and would make a lot more sense if they were simply frontends and perhaps a backend too but just for the forums themselves. IOW, no accounts live in Lemmy or kbin, all users post from their preferred account instead.

Sure you can already technically do that from your or or whatever fedi you're in, but that means using whatever app you're on right now, which almost certainly means it's not a UI. Not ideal at all.

If I had any good programming skills I'd make it so that the link aggregator is merely a client that uses the Mastodon (with extensions too) and Misskey APIs, treat (almost) all actors as their own forums or subs, and each post would be a boost from said actor. Users authenticate from their preferred fedi account. Voting would be tallied by few special actors, which internally receive votes via direct messages (the app will make this transparent, but this also means you can technically vote without the app if you know the exact command), which will effectively make votes secret to non-admins like in . Users can also choose which vote counters they want to rely from.

This would make the fediverse-powered link aggregator very flexible and minimal, imo. It may look janky but that's the general idea I have. ​:seija_coffee:​

RE: https://mementomori.social/users/owen/statuses/112285464236904945

prma, to random
@prma@fosstodon.org avatar

As far as I can see, Perma Computing community is too focused on the artistic aspect of computing. Which hardly covers the most energy intensive, ubiquitous parts of the computing world.

Unless the conversation is taken to tackle higher impact fields, the output of the community is more like the conceptual fashion shows:
a vanity demonstration. A limited proof of concept.

Such a disappointing realization.

kris,
@kris@outmo.de avatar
TheMetalDog, to lemmy
@TheMetalDog@mastodon.social avatar
owen, to mastodon
@owen@mementomori.social avatar

To make clear at the start: I do not intend to denigrate anyone with this post, or anyone's efforts. I have a genuine question which has puzzled me since I first went off to explore Lemmy and Pixelfed.

What purpose do people think that they serve in the Fediverse?

When I first asked, people told me that Lemmy served as an alternative to Reddit and indeed lemmy.world describes itself as "the World's Internet Frontpage". But Reddit exists solely because of the sheer amount of users it houses. Reddit stands as the poster child for user-generated content whereas lemmy.world has less than 8K users a day.

Pixelfed has a similar very-poor-cousin relationship to Instagram. If you have a keen desire for the world to see your images then Instagram will scratch that itch much better than Pixelfed. Posting your images here might also attract more attention, since the pool of possible viewers seems much, much larger.

The biggest group I found on Lemmy? Mastodon.lemmy.world ! I found several posts there like this: "[mastodon] is like making an entire post out of a throwaway comment. That's what I saw on mastodon, didn't choose to participate." At the very least this serves to demonstrate that different people have wildly different experiences on Mastodon because that bears no relationship to my experiences.

In the world of Big Tech people start new social media because they think they see a gap in a market, or a way of splitting off some users of a current platform into their all-new shiny silo. Here, though, everything can live alongside everything else, hence my question: what functions do Lemmy, Pixelfed, and others serve that Mastodon doesn't?

I think I do understand the function of some projects like Bookwyrm or Funkwhale. They have very specific goals: much more specific than "sharing media" or "discussing in threads", for example, both of which can happen in Mastodon. Their design highlights these differences.

I understand that I could well have missed the point completely here, and hence my question. I joined Lemmy and Pixelfed wanting to participate but the level of traffic seemed too low to generate the interaction I had hoped for. Did I look in the wrong places, or did I fail to notice the action, or did I look too early? (When I first joined Mastodon it seemed empty. Now it certainly doesn't.)

Let me give a concrete example. I have a fifteen year project for which I take a single photo every day. Should I post it here or on Pixelfed? What difference would it make? Does it matter?

And finally, as part of looking into Lemmy I explored a lot of apps. If you like Ice Cubes for Mastodon and want to explore Lemmy then I recommend Artic.

caos, to foss German

-Community: Infos zu technischen Problemen bei feddit.de 💻

Seit etwa einer Woche ist leider die Homepage von und damit auch die Community-Seite feddit.de/c/foss_de nicht direkt erreichbar. Das betrifft allerdings "nur" die Homepage bzw. das Webinterface von , also die Seite feddit.de
Die Föderation funktioniert aber und die Posts von/ an die Community erreichen trotzdem alle, die die Community (von Mastodon, Friendica, Akkoma usw. oder einer anderen Lemmy-Instanz aus) abonniert haben. Nur die feddit-User selbst werden ggf. weniger erreicht, sofern sie nur über feddit.de eingeloggt sind. Über diverse Lemmy-Apps oder alternative Frontends (bspw. alexandrite.app oder Quiblr ) funktioniert es dagegen.

Inhalte dieser Community sind bspw. hier alexandrite.app/feddit.de/c/fo… und hier phtn.app/c/foss_de@feddit.de auch ohne Anmeldung vollständig zu sehen.

Ihr könnt also weiterhin gerne Infos oder Fragen mit -Bezug an die Community schicken. Ich hoffe, die Probleme können bald behoben werden, ich informiere Euch, wenn es was Neues gibt!

@foss_de

roland,

@caos Kann ich bestaetigen. Es kommt nur "Server error". Bitte mal in das error_log des Webservers gucken, ob Fehlermeldungen kommen. Falls nein, dann bitte den Log-Level auf WARNING mindestens erhoehen (ich kenne mich aber nicht mit aus).

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