abucci, to dystopia
@abucci@buc.ci avatar

"Tech Billionaires Launch California ‘Utopia’ Website: See Renderings, New Details"

https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/31/tech-billionaires-california-utopia-website-artists-renderings-new-details

(ht https://mastodon.social/users/bborrman/statuses/110987637529916634 )

American utopian experiments almost invariably turn into epic catastrophes and this particular one looks horrific. I don't know if these are #TESCREAL people but it'd almost certainly be a magnet for folks like that.

Attn @xriskology, @timnitGebru

#utopia #dystopia

smallcircles, to privacy
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Yes, you can ditch now..

https://organicmaps.app

is here. Use it while offline and feel good about a -respecting app that doesn't suck you dry of your personal information. Based on this app is gonna blow out of the water (hopefully ;)

HistoPol,
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@raphaelmorgan

(5/5)

...type of leaks (, ) probably apart from post-Dorsey (#X,) soon to become the "everything app," like the state-surveillance tool , if continues to have his way and people are stupid enough to follow him down that rabbit hole (.)
But this goes way beyond this convo.

//

thomasrenkert, to twitter German
@thomasrenkert@hcommons.social avatar

Anyone still using #Twitter #X is supporting...

thomasrenkert,
@thomasrenkert@hcommons.social avatar

Just your average #TESCREAL apocalypse plan. Nothing to see here...

FeralRobots, to ai
@FeralRobots@mastodon.social avatar
remixtures, to Futurology Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

#Longtermism #TESCREAL #AGI: "The warnings I articulated in 2019 and 2021 are no longer merely hypothetical. What we’re seeing now is exactly what I worried could happen in the years to come. It didn’t take long for my predictions to prove accurate. When leading TESCREALists argue that existential risks are the “one kind of catastrophe that must be avoided at any cost,” to quote Bostrom with italics added, one shouldn’t be surprised if members of the community start talking about the use of force, military strikes, or targeted killings to reduce the supposed “existential risk” of AGI.

I do not know how this ends, but what’s clear from history is that many utopian movements, embracing a kind of “utilitarian” reasoning, have left a trail of destruction behind them. Will this time be any different? It depends on whether the power and influence of the TESCREAL movement continues to grow, and right now, the trendlines are ominous."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/before-its-too-late-buddy/

nunesgh, to random
@nunesgh@mastodon.social avatar

"This is a Code Red Warning about TESCREALism. If Yudkowsky's words are taken seriously by our political leaders, or perhaps some lone wolves, we should be extremely worried about the harms that could result. Over and over again, history shows that the march to utopia can leave a trail of destruction in its wake. If the ends can justify the means, and the end is paradise, then what exactly is off the table for protecting and preserving this end?"
-- @xriskology

#TESCREAL
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/before-its-too-late-buddy/

flexghost, to random
@flexghost@mastodon.social avatar

Your reminder

In 2016 Russia financed a series of ads along with an army of upvote bots. The intent was to divide america further from all angles

The senate intelligence committee released the following ads from Russia linked actors

These are from accounts with names like Blacktivists, Back the Badge, Secure Borders, Army of Jesus and so on. Every division covered

We’re heading into 2024. If you see a political ad trying to provoke you: mistrust it.

1/3)

Russian add posted to American social media, claiming to be against police brutality, but linked to a group that made divisions run deeper
Russian, financed political ad full of Islamophobia depicting women walking on the street and wearing a Burqa as evil somehow
Image of Russian, financed social media ad, saying back the badge, usually aimed at conservatives, even though they thrashed police on January 6

Itty53,
@Itty53@mstdn.social avatar

@Grant_M

On that note though, fascism is rapidly reforming today into that of a technologist cult. #TESCREAL to put a finer point on it. And they'll present their engineering as education itself, which isn't true, and they'll masquerade as enlightened and highly intelligent. They aren't. But just goes further to show how readily adaptable fascism is.

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timnitGebru, to random
@timnitGebru@dair-community.social avatar

"Sam Altman, the C.E.O. of OpenAI, with whom Musk has both worked and sparred, told me, “Elon desperately wants the world to be saved. But only if he can be the one to save it.”"

Something about the pot and the kettle here smh.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

timnitGebru,
@timnitGebru@dair-community.social avatar

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

"It is difficult to say whether Musk’s interest in A.I. is driven by scientific wonder and altruism or by a desire to dominate a new and potentially powerful industry."

This article is completely missing Elmo's #TESCREAL ideologies.

popcrimes,
@popcrimes@mstdn.social avatar

@timnitGebru

I became interested in Musk less than a year ago + the first thing I stumbled upon were his alarming ideologies. I am baffled + irritated that Farrow has left out #tescreal.

Maybe he prefers critique from white cis dudes?

DisruptionNetworkLab, to ai

Want to help create a collective vision of resistance to the elitist domination of the future?

Join us 26 Sept at Acud Macht Neu in Berlin for "Trolling AI Doomerism & Longtermism" meetup.

Philosopher and scholar Emile P. Torres (@xriskology) will lead the debate.

Learn more and secure your spot now: https://dnlb.org/ai

#ai #longtermism #TESCREAL #future #transhumanism #elonmusk

2ndStar, to random German
@2ndStar@astronomy.social avatar

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  • HistoPol,
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @AlphaCephei @marquito @2ndStar

    Der im südafrikanischen #Apartheid-System in der Oberschicht grossgewordene #Musk ist Anhänger einer rassistischen, faschistoiden Filosophie (#Longtermism), die sehr viele finanzstarke Anhänger hat.
    Sie gehört aus Forschersicht zum #TESCREAL-Gedankengut, wie es seit Neuestem abgekürzt wird.

    Hier ein Thread von mir dazu, der dies näher erläutert:

    https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110565890923413442

    jsbarretto, to random
    @jsbarretto@social.coop avatar

    It occurred to me today that the social value of the open-source work I do in my free time has probably been an order of magnitude more useful to the world than everything I've ever done as a paid employee. Needing to seek a wage almost certainly makes me a less productive member of society than I would otherwise be.

    HistoPol,
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @tshepang

    Yes, agreed. However, that raises the specter of "ideological incest," as I would call it, and here we are at a big other topic, #TESCREAL (I covered that yesterday in a repeat of some of my threads.)
    I threatends the complete world order we have presently, and no, not in the way you would like it to move, but in to a complete #oligarchy. Fact.

    @dlakelan @jsbarretto

    HistoPol, (edited )
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @tshepang

    I talk about #TESCREAL in this convo, which gives important sources, too:

    https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110565890923413442

    Furthermore, regarding our starting point, US colleges, this article by insider and Google victim Timnit Gebru talks about the issue:

    https://dair-community.social/@timnitGebru/110662391761220428

    And then, the #TESCREAL handle has become quite active here in recent weeks.

    WARNING: extensive and intensive subject, not for bedside reading ;)

    HistoPol,
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @dlakelan

    (1/2)

    It is not just that, alas, my post is in Germany (which I will put, regardless, afterwards,) here is a post in English about a NTY article about the unprecedented power Musk has amassed in satellite internet communications.

    He has become a "transnational being."

    https://mastodon.social/@wendysiegelman/110798502577035485

    Please also check out my posts on #TESCREAL that I provided for Tshepang.

    Things are some lightyears worse than you probably...

    @tshepang @jsbarretto

    HistoPol,
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @tshepang

    If you listen to the interview, @timnitGebru makes it very clear that except for one black swan, all tech billionaires in #SiliconValley are (chiefly white) males that (mostly?--don't recall) belief in #TESCREAL.
    #SciFi, in particular certain novels, that used to be nerd stuff, has become main stream.
    These two threads emanate from the influential tech billionaires and VC funds. They replicate through funding other white males, indoctrinated by this (on the one hand) fascist thought.

    alxd, to solarpunk
    @alxd@writing.exchange avatar

    When writing my #solarpunk essay to the Polish ZNAK magazine I was asked to write a section outlining the differences between the movement and #longtermism (together with #effectiveAltruism, #transhumanism and more).

    I think it's important to understand what #TESCREAL (a term coined by Timnit Gebru) is and how it might be one of the dominating narratives on our future in the coming years.

    A good intro could be https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/ , although I'm sure there are a lot more articles.

    alxd,
    @alxd@writing.exchange avatar

    I'm not saying that there aren't people conscious of more subtle consequences of technology and its shapes among the #TESCREAL followers (is it a good word?). I'm saying that the movement itself is a mask hiding a lot of models, assumptions, beliefs, calling them "objective" and "rational" only to discredit any dissenting points.

    For me it was much easier to find someone to discuss critical design among hackers and anarchists, criticizing society as well - than among transhumanists.

    alxd,
    @alxd@writing.exchange avatar

    I could write a lot about #TransHumanism and #TESCREAL , but the point of this little thread is: as people interested in #solarpunk , #futurism and #narratives , we should be aware of it.

    We should see it when it subtly influences the narratives around us, when yet another #technoSolutionism preacher tells us that we need to give even more control to whoever is holding power over tech.

    That's it's a technological, not a social problem.

    That we need an app.

    That it's the only rational way.

    alxd,
    @alxd@writing.exchange avatar

    At the end of the day, it might not be #cyberpunk 's nihilism versus #solarpunk 's utopia.

    It might be #TESCREAL 's path to the stars, #longtermism 's view where each of us (and the planet) become expendable cogs, overseen by the rational ruling elites,

    versus

    #solarpunk , where we hope for federations of messy, anarchist, human-scale communities each deciding their own future in an suboptimal way, but without overlords.

    DamienWise, to ai
    @DamienWise@aus.social avatar

    This presentation by @timnitGebru, "Eugenics and the Promise of Utopia through AGI", is a concentrated braindump that illustrates the path from centuries of racism and oppression to today's techbro mythology of a technological utopia.
    It's also a reminder that people who talk-up "AGI" have ugly ideologies and don't know jack about AI.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7XT4TWLzJw

    Carwil, to Anthropology
    @Carwil@mastodon.online avatar

    Those of us trying to understand capitalism in the age of #billionaires need to pay attention to what besides profit itself is inspiring accumulation and shaping investments.

    Fantasies and imagined futures are shaping billion-dollar flows of money.

    https://mastodon.online/@parismarx/110820269222745002

    #anthropology #capitalism #TheFutureTM #TESCREAL

    FeralRobots, to Futurology
    @FeralRobots@mastodon.social avatar
    fgusmao, to Ethics
    @fgusmao@mastodon.social avatar

    Why Effective Altruism and “Longtermism” Are Toxic Ideologies ❧ Current Affairs
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2023/05/why-effective-altruism-and-longtermism-are-toxic-ideologies

    >Intellectual historian Émile P. Torres @xriskology explains how Silicon Valley’s favorite ideas for changing the world for the better actually threaten to make it much, much worse.


    @philosophy @ethics

    trochee, to random
    @trochee@dair-community.social avatar

    At the library in the SF section and I found a book that looked promising and checks boxes for me (appears it isn't Heinlein wannabe pastiche; covers questions of autonomy, sentience and who counts as "people"; author is not a white straight cis anglophone dude*)

    …but then it has a glowing blurb from Ray Kurzweil, and I just… put it back on the shelf.

    No thank you.

    I do read a few things by authors in this category, but I'm much less willing to give them* a try without recommendation

    **us

    matthewmaybe,
    @matthewmaybe@sigmoid.social avatar

    @timnitGebru @trochee I feel like I hear relatively little said about Ray Kurzweil despite his apparent role as the godfather of . Am I getting that wrong? Didn't he basically invent this new religion, and the rest are just preaching different versions of his gospel? Or did it exist before him in some form?

    pluralistic, to random
    @pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

    Today's threads (a thread)

    Inside: Tesla's Dieselgate; and more!

    Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/28/edison-not-tesla/

    #Pluralistic

    1/

    HistoPol, (edited )
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @flexghost

    True.
    But you can’t beat physics with a bit of money.
    I hope people sue him dry.
    #Dieselgate was bad, but the cars worked at least.
    The only reason I would have ever bought a Tesla Pre-Twitter, R.I.P. was the phenomenonal driving range.

    A#TheBigLie -- so in character with #TESCREAL.

    @pluralistic

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