The flagship instance of Fire Fish is now OFFLINE.
The significance of this event is many of the Fire Fish Developers have previously come forward claiming the lead developer vanished. Unfortunately, the lead developer treated their project as a centralized project, meaning that they were the sole person making decisions, giving no access to accounts or code changes or even donations, despite having a team behind them.
Today I learned there is a fork of Misskey called, Sharkey.
To quote the development:
"Sharkey is an upstream fork of Misskey that promises to deliver an improved feature set and UX across the board, with an emphasis on providing improved performance over other Misskey derivatives, our mission is to cohesive experience taking note of our communities feedback to better our software."
For those who are thinking about jumping ship from Firefish to Sharkey, the official instructions to migrate your server from Firefish to Sharkey is now out.
The only reason we had to take more steps is because we were using the 1.0.4 beta build of Firefish. The Dev team is helpful if you run into any issues migrating. You should probably upgrade Firefish to 1.0.5 RC1 before migrating
bringing you random shark facts since 2023 [looks at script: oops wrong script...]
bringing you a Misskey fork that follows upstream when ever possible with added features such as federated post editing, mastodon api, federated profile backgrounds, federated music status via listenbrainz and more since 2023.
this account is used for updates regarding #Sharkey aswell as support but also may occasionally post some random facts about Sharks Sharkey
I am delighted to announce that here at iBe Social we have migrated to #Sharkey :sharkey:
Sharkey is a fabulous variation of Misskey, with some great little extras. I hope everyone will enjoy using it as much as we have during our testing phase. We had setup a test server to let our users play around with it to decide if it was what they wanted.
#Firefish served us well, but it was time to move on to new and exciting things in Sharkey.
Massive kudos to @Amelia who did all the work on the migration. She took an unbelievably impressive 26 minutes to do the migration; I hardly had time to check my honey stocks!
Proud to be part of Sharkey, and open for visitors.
Im honestly kinda disappointed in all the people jumping on catodon now and calling it firefish successor its kinda very bad as the devs don't intend it to be a firefish successor nor is it trying to be anything like firefish or misskey in general, talking about migrating to catodon while also calling it firefish sucessor is like punching the catodon devs in the face
as they try to create something simple for newer users, not something for existing key users that enjoy fun shit like MFM
please everyone do you research before spreading shit this is also very harmful to the project at least from my POV. if everyone starts hyping the project for something that it is not.
please just give @panos and @catodon some time, and don't put them under pressure for something its not.
If you want a Misskey fork that is unlikely to die as its a softfork (updates with misskey) anytime soon and is community focused and includes #firefish inspired changes go with #sharkey
if you really really want to stick with the firefish sort of thing of doing things try the firefish fork #iceshrimp
and if u want something new more geared towards new users / casual users try looking into #catodon
but don't just jump the gun on things u don't even know fully about
How did we go from way too many semi popular english Misskey forks to literally only having one soon (Sharkey)
Firefish kinda had its moment but currently doesn't seem that much will happen
Foundkey while still maintained is not really meant for more than one user instances
Iceshrimp is currently doing an full C# or well rather they are doing their own thing not using the MisskeyAPI and also rewriting the frontend, which means when thats done they aren't really part of the Misskey Family of forks anymore
Catodon, from the start is not trying to be anything like misskey and more like a user friendly mastodon-key mix, but they are also interested in using Iceshrimp as a kinda upstream meaning they would also not be part of the Misskey Family of Forks
how did we go from #Sharkey being hated on for being another #misskey fork, to it being the only major true english misskey fork left, if #firefish doesn't comeback to life and if iceshrimp continues its rewrite
We are offering direct help to any one migrating from #firefish to #sharkey, as the firefish project is now officially unmaintained, please remember tho that sharkey is a misskey soft-fork
also we won't be tolerating any harassment towards any of the firefish devs
Welp the bomb has been dropped, former #firefish team members basically telling us what we suspected is true firefish is basicly dead, since this is out now i might as well talk about some firefish things even tho i hate this happening i don't feel like i should continue to stay quite on some of the issues, as part of my promise to the firefish devs i've talked to i will not mention some things that i know of but will tell my personal experiences with the project and why i think the project is unlikely to recover.
well lets start of with the apparent issue, firefish is kainoa's project and as such he is fully in charge of the project, the issue is that firefish has been seemingly developed in a way that's basically right out of the Portal Quotes book
"I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the wall here to see what sticks. No idea what it'll do. Probably nothing"
this Quote perfectly describes what firefish has been doing over the last releases, stuff like rust was added never to be touched again, scylladb was hyped and worked on (apparently because discord uses it?) just to be basically scrapped, and rewrite in bun was planned?
the attitude was basically adding stuff and making changes without fixing the underlying issues, firefish suffers from alot and by alot i mean a fuck ton of technical issues these won't magically be solved by rewriting it, or changing db sure rewrittes and switching to a better db can help (scylladb is not better for a thing like firefish btw) but that's just putting duck tape on the issue, instead a focus should have been to work on the underlying issues fixing whats causing the issues, like the monster db querys not to mention the fact that some things like scylladb were apparently done even tho multiple firefish devs adviced against it (not a firefish dev can't confirm this but ive been told such)
but also as we have seen firefish is extremely dependent on Kainoa being there, without him being there not much can be done on the firefish side of the team which is also very bad a project should not collapse as hard as firefish because the main dev is missing for multiple weeks, thats why in the ideal case u have multiple project leads
but even if kainoa comes back and everything returns to normal for a bit if firefish does not majorly change their attitude towards development and organization the project will just continue to crash straight into a wall
that said don't start harassing any of the firefish devs or even kainoa
firefish is a foss hobby project and projects come and go
as of writing this post both main firefish instances firefish.social and stop.voring.me are still down or up but don't federate and|or otherwise unusable
EDIT: if you are currently running firefish its highly recommended u consider migrating to either Sharkey, Iceshrimp or Catodon, ofc im going to recommend #sharkey but please do your own research
My year in music from #listenbrainz (only used it a few weeks now but I love it). Also love that the listening status is implemented into #Sharkey and visible in real-time on the profile if you set this up 👀 Very nice work
I feel like commissioning some people to make artwork for #sharkey currently needed, 3x Error Images, 1 Icon to replace our Mascot for the Icon that should be very recognizable even as a favicon, 1x Sharkey Logo Full Name + one with icon next to it
that said im poor and only have 50€ to offer currently so i probably can only get some of those
Just learned about the demise of #Firefish (head is M.I.A.). It's unfortunate for the thousands of instances running it, but with that comes #IceShrimp, #Sharkey, and #Catodon. All of them (I think) are being developed by former Firefish devs. Options.
Hopefully, current FF users are all, if they want to, able to move to another actively-developed community easily.
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Ich bin ja eigtl. ziemlich zufrieden instanzmäßig mit Sharkey. Mein Zufriedenheitslevel liegt bei etwa 80 % diesbezüglich. Wer mich kennt weiß, dass das schon extrem gut bewertet ist. In den letzten zwei Wochen habe ich mich noch mal genauer umgeschaut bez. #Sharkey, #Iceshrimp & #Firefish. Dazu habe ich ja auf meinem Backup Account auch kürzlich eine Umfrage gestartet. Die ist zwar noch nicht zuende, zeigt aber jetzt schon wie die Sachlage ausschaut.
Durch einen Kommentar von @alyx zu der Umfrage wurde ......... Ups, ich habe etwas missverstanden, daher hier ein :edit2: In dem Kommentar erfuhr ich folgendes bezüglich Iceshrimp:
Da die ganze misskey Basis 'nen ziemliches Chaos ist, arbeiten sie aktuell sogar an einem kompletten rewrite und kommen wirklich gut voran. Ist noch etwas Arbeit, ins besonders im Frontend, aber ich bin zuversichtlich, dass wir bis zum Ende des Jahres 'nen ordentliches release haben werden.
Das fand ich schon sehr spannend und ich freue mich auf den Tag wenn da ein Release kommen wird.
Und da mein erster und einziger Test von #Friendica schon sehr lange her ist, möchte ich mir das auch noch mal genauer anschauen.
Ich werde 100 %ig bis Jahresende weiter mit Sharkey fahren bzw. bis zum Release des "neuen" Misskey. Dann werde ich neu bewerten und schauen ob es FÜR MICH noch besser geht als mit Sharkey. Vielleicht legt ja bis dahin einer der anderen Kandidaten noch mächtig zu oder es kommt ein neuer großartiger Player mit ins Spiel. Jedenfalls wird dann eine Entscheidung fallen zwischen Sharkey, Misskey oder Friendica (?) wenn nichts ungeplantes passiert.
Mastodon wird nicht mehr in Betracht gezogen. Das liegt mittlerweile BEI MIR weit abgeschlagen ganz hinten weil zu viele Beschneidungen und fehlende Features. Ich betone extra "FÜR MICH" weil ich das nicht für alle schlecht reden will. Wenn 1 damit zufrieden ist, voll ok. Mir gefällts nicht mehr. Ich sage immer, mit Mastodon kann man im Fedi mitmischen. Mit z.B. Sharkey wird das Erlebnis #Fedi dann einfach FANCY :headbanging: