driusan, to random

Since I linked to a repo on code.driusan.net I finally got around to writing a blog post about my distributed bug tracker / source code manager that it's based on.

I was going to write it after I got my rust port up to parity with the original #plan9 version, but I screwed up my laptop's hard drive and lost the rust port (it turns out refusing to put it offsite with git because I wanted to be sure I was dogfooding my scm wasn't a great idea.) so I'm just writing the post now.

https://code.driusan.net/blog/dsm-intro.html

driusan, to random

I am a test post.

If you can see this, it means I can post via the misskey API
from .

driusan, to random

I almost hacked up my webfs enough to open a websocket connection to ws://echo.websocket.org but I don't know if I'll be able to finish it because webfs isn't really intended to be full duplex and I don't know how to write to the connection after opening it.

futurile, to guix

Video of the interview with #guix founder @civodul is available. A great chat about the #nix deployment model, his interested in #guile and #free software. Lots of interesting chat about motivation in #freesoftware, #gnu and #linux - as well as the Plan9-ification of Guix!!

https://youtu.be/339dRDf4c6E?si=u3pP_j_eg5PPi04y

kolev,
@kolev@babka.social avatar

@futurile What about #Plan9?! @civodul

chakuari, to random Italian
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jhx, to FreeBSD
@jhx@bsd.cafe avatar

Small rant:

is a sane platform - period! :freebsd:

Why?
It works and is dependable.

Does that matter anymore?
More than ever!

We live in a constantly changing world - for better or worse.
Many chase the next best thing... code is getting bloated more and more by the hour.

In the end we have a safe place to grow and learn...
It is called:

Run and enjoy the journey! :freebsd: :openbsd:
After all: This is the way it was supposed to be! 😎

sirjofri,
@sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@jhx sorry to interrupt (and I don't want to make your post or bsd bad or anything, I have absolutely no experience with it).

But I can just take that whole post and replace bsd with .

At least, that's my experience (and historically, it's probably more accurate about your last sentence).

paul, to rust

At work (zoo.dev) we use a lot of rust :ferris: and specifically tokio for our servers -- I've been spending some time trying to develop style with it. I figured i'd be good chance to finish a DECADE OLD hack I wanted to implement. It's been a few weeks of nights/weekends hacking on it, and I just wrote it up after getting my old blog back online at https://notes.pault.ag/debugfs/

icoon, to random

Having some fun with #drawlib on my freshly setup #plan9 #9front machine :)

Moving squares pattern

bagder, to random
@bagder@mastodon.social avatar

ln -s [one] [two]

the arguments are done in the same order as if you would have done it with cp.

Yes, it really is that easy. You can stop worrying about it now.

sirjofri,
@sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@bagder good thing I don't need symlinks anymore... #plan9 #9front

ibannieto, to thinkpad

Running in my x280 for this entire year is going to be distractionless and super productive workstation. I dinnae miss the browser at all. Also I'm learning tons of new things. There is no way back. Thank you to every single person and to the developers for this amazing experience.

ibannieto,

@sirjofri I do the same, for quick searches I'm using the mobile browser. Also I am a #geminiprotocol user so it makes sense to use it under #plan9 as is more convenient.

mattl, to random
@mattl@social.coop avatar

Rare opportunity to reply with software!

Thinking about writing up some usage of esoteric/under appreciated operating systems.

  • Please do suggest some that will run on either: a standard amd64 PC or a Raspberry Pi 4. Not interested in virtual machines.

  • Please do not suggest: Windows, macOS, Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora Linux or things based on them (like Kubuntu, or Linux Mint)

Please boost this so I can get lots of good replies.

publicvoit,

@mattl Well, #NixOS is, both, a rather old distribution but also the latest hyped distro many #Linux geeks are switching to.

Beneath #Plan9, this would be one of the more "different" operating systems you could cover. Requires a bit of a learning curve since there are many new concepts and many common concepts are removed.

I've installed it on two hosts as well last summer: https://karl-voit.at/2023/09/12/nix/

My personal position is not yet clear as there are some cool things and some very annoying ones.

whynothugo, to random
@whynothugo@fosstodon.org avatar

In the spirit of #plan9, I wish that I could simply install gcc-aarch64 and cross build easily. I guess I'd also need all the dependencies in their aarch64 version, and the filesystem hierarchy should have a "correct place" for libraries for other architectures.

jbzfn, to retrocomputing
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

"Plan 9 was in some way a second implementation of the core concepts of Unix and C, but reconsidered for a world of networked graphical workstations. It took many of the trendy ideas of late-1980s computing, both of academic theories and of the computer industry of the time, and it reinterpreted them through the jaded eyes of two great gurus, Kenneth Thompson and Dennis Ritchie (and their students)"

https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/21/successor_to_unix_plan_9/

#plan9 #osdev #unixhistory #retrocomputing

nil, to random
@nil@functional.cafe avatar

Does anyone else spend a lot of time thinking about what the developer experience of a pure #CSP could be? I think the immediate issue is the language itself needs to have CSP primitives baked in and not layered on (no matter how cool the party trick). I say this because the debugging experience can’t be wading through state machines you did not write yourself. Exene (written in concurrent ML) is only prior art I am aware of. Maybe #plan9 stuff?

pfr, to random

Using 9front for the first time and I really like it. There has certainly been a learning curve coming from Linux and BSD, but I'm getting there. Just need to set up Mail, Faces and an IRC client next.

So far I've just edited the theme, set up a couple functions, customised my riostart, edited the winwatch source code to reduce the padding etc. Everything I've done is pretty much in the acme window.

#plan9 #9front #plan9front #plan9sdf #Plan9Bootcamp

axx, to random
@axx@mstdn.fr avatar

I'm starting to get curious about Plan 9 from Bell Labs. Beyond its wonderful name, just scratching the surface i can see it had some really interesting ideas and concepts.

Did anyone here ever use it? What was it like? I'd like to understand if some of its ideas made their way to other pieces of free and open source software we use today?

axx,
@axx@mstdn.fr avatar

@mmu_man What's the hashtag? Just #Plan9 ?

SDF, to random
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SDF, to Futurology
@SDF@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

SDF Plan 9 Boot Camp Winter 2024 kicks off in just under 24 hours with Tea Note Orientation at 11:30AM PT. Registration is open at:

https://sdf.org/plan9

A screenshot of a typical Plan 9 desktop environment

b0rk, to random
@b0rk@jvns.ca avatar

what problems do you run into with git's staging area? right now I'm feeling like the staging area is one of the least confusing parts of git (merging, branches, and remotes seem to cause people a lot more problems) but I'm very open to writing about it if there are problems

sirjofri,
@sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@b0rk in our #plan9 #9front git implementation there was a decision to not have a staging area, because there might be better alternatives, iirc, but I don't know the details. Maybe someone from our bubble can tell more?

peter, to retrocomputing
@peter@area51.social avatar

Installing a new (for me) OS in a VM

The Installer is... different...

#plan9 #retroComputing

cenbe, to random
@cenbe@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Who says #Plan9's not fun? They even have demos! http://runjimmyrunrunyoufuckerrun.com/demo/glenda.mp4

m00dy, to random
@m00dy@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Are there any parts of #9front or #plan9 that folks here feel are a bit under documented?

bt, to javascript

Is there a site or collection of "user" services that work without any ?

By "user" I mean email/webmail, hosting, code forges, video playback etc. I am aware (and use some) things like:

  • sourcehut
  • squrrielmail
  • nearlyfreespeech

Just wondering if others would be interested in having an up-to-date site that showcases all these services?

sirjofri,
@sirjofri@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@bt software-wise, everything on #plan9 works without javascript (for example, abaco and mothra)

jrsharp, to Cyberdeck
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Latest Model 3 protos: (wrote a bit about it on the gopher log. Check it out if you’re interested in a

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