shojiwax, to climate
@shojiwax@mastodon.online avatar

So here are 2 questions to think about.

To actually save the planet will we need to turn off the internet?

Or is it the essential resuscitation tool?

#deGrowth #climateEmergency #climateChange #overShoot

Climatehistories, to climate
@Climatehistories@mastodon.social avatar

In 1969, the physicist Albert Bartlett gave a now famous lecture entitled Arithmetic, Population and Energy.👇

It begins with the line: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."

In the context of global challenges such as #climatechange, pandemics & financial crises, the inability to understand exponential growth can lead to delayed responses, inadequate policies, and missed opportunities for intervention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1C9DyIi_8&ab_channel=kip399

MHowell,

@Climatehistories In his book Overshoot, "...Catton is making a positive argument for change, rather than misanthropic framework to label our predicament"

and once our predicament is understood, we can then agree and take action.

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2023-05-10/overshoot-the-ecological-basis-of-revolutionary-change/

#Overshoot #overpopulation #CarryingCapacity #population #climate #ClimateChange

_noelamac_, to random Spanish
@_noelamac_@spore.social avatar

No infinite growth on a finite planet.

#overshoot #degrowth #capitalism

MHowell, (edited ) to Hawaii

"Welcome to the extinction capital of the world."

Quite simply: As human population grows and our footprint expands, more human habitat means less habitat for endangered species. Pile on invasive species (like domestic cats) and climate change and native species don't stand a chance.

But the author almost entirely misses Section 7 in their word-fluffed up article, where critical habitat is defined as off-limit to developers. But developers rule in #hawaii

#Endangered #EndangeredSpecies
#EndangeredSpeciesAct #ESA #habitat #USFWS
#overpopulation #overshoot #ExtinctionRebellion #extinct
#cat #cats
#ClimateCrisis #ClimateChange

https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/2023/12/14/23990382/extinction-capital-hawaii-endangered-species-act

HistoPol, to climate
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

(1/n)

The End is Nigh by 2100:

+3°C!--The 's outlook for the surpasses even my worst predictions:

Via @TheGuardian

"World facing ‘hellish’ 3C of climate heating, UN warns before Cop28

‘We must start setting records on cutting emissions,’ UN boss says after temperature records obliterated in 2023"

"The...(Unep) report said that implementing future policies already promised by countries would shave 0.1C off the 3C limit...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/20/world-facing-hellish-3c-of-climate-heating-un-warns-before-cop28

HistoPol,
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@skyfire101

I agree.
There are some of us (me included,) who think that #overshoot already happened a long time ago. Still, we don't have a choice but to try, even against the odds.

@TheGuardian

HistoPol,
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@volkris

(1/n)

Yes, the #overshoot theory entails that the human race has already failed.

The question is, however, in how many decades we can still achieve a climate similar to the one we have been enjoying in the past decades again?

Life is probabilities and statistics. If you are on a life boat, your chances of survival might be just 5%. You still fight.
On the other hand, one passenger on the boat might need sacrifice himself for the...

@TheGuardian

_noelamac_, to sustainability Spanish
@_noelamac_@spore.social avatar

Why do we call developed countries „developed“?

If they still need to grow indefinitely, why are they „developed“?

Shouldn’t we call them „insatiable“ countries instead?

jackofalltrades, to socialism
@jackofalltrades@mas.to avatar

Reading this one can't help but notice how inefficient and wasteful is at allocating resources. A global with could easily provide for 10 billion people, all within planetary boundaries (so no more ), while eradicating and in the process.

https://theconversation.com/how-10-billion-people-could-live-well-by-2050-using-as-much-energy-as-we-did-60-years-ago-146896

Link to the research paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307512

darkstar, to Collapse
@darkstar@mastodon.nl avatar

10 Reasons Our Civilization Will Soon Collaps

As society breaks down, life will get simpler and simpler. By the late 21st century, people will be living the way they did in the early 19th century.

#Collapse #ClimateCrisis #Overshoot

https://www.okdoomer.io/10-reasons-our-civilization-will-soon-collapse/

KeithDJohnson, to chess
@KeithDJohnson@sfba.social avatar

LIVING IN THE with Jonathan Rowson
"Jonathan Rowson is co-founder and Director of Perspectiva and author of the Joyous Struggle on Substack. He was previously Director of the Social Brain Centre at the RSA where he authored a range of influential research reports on behaviour change, climate change and spirituality. Jonathan is an applied philosopher with degrees from Oxford, Harvard and Bristol Universities. In a former life he was a Grandmaster and British Champion and views the game as a continuing source of insight and inspiration. His book, "The Moves that Matter – A Grandmaster on the Game of Life" was published in 2019.
Bioregion
https://youtu.be/IjOQB608ylQ

KeithDJohnson, to climate
@KeithDJohnson@sfba.social avatar

In regard to the #ClimateCrisis, IMO, there is no shortage of solutions for many myriad, curiously connected, problems (not to mention #overshoot #predicaments). Where we're slacking, it seems, is deployment of them (at least the scale of the Civilian Conservation Corps [1933 to '42], for example). Landscape rehabilitation, i.e. 'hands-on' application of long-practiced earth- & water-work techniques, used by humans over 1000s of years; #CheckDams / pits / channels / #acequias / #ponds; mimicking beavers, essentially. Slowing water down, spreading it out, & sinking it in, as the #permaculture aphorism goes. The gathering together of actual human beings to lay hands on and apply simple tools to generate radical regenerative shifts in the regional #watershed #ecology & #hydrology (as well as health & trade) is being modeled for the world to see, in various locales. It's one thing to watch a video. To make it happen everywhere is both necessary AND possible. Start yesterday if not sooner.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIZ5tgj-b_R8F_TpYQRhkoQCNvx7evTm

doomscroller, to Collapse
@doomscroller@mastodon.online avatar

Paul Beckwith: 11 Reasons Our Civilization Will Soon Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXrY4ESpIII #Collapse #Overshoot #ClimateChange #LateStageHumanity

MHowell, to Futurology

“A collapse is the process at the end of which basic needs (water, food, housing, clothing, energy, etc.) can no longer be provided [at a reasonable cost] to a majority of the population by services under legal supervision.”

https://www.okdoomer.io/10-reasons-our-civilization-will-soon-collapse/

1 #Overshoot
2 The End of Cheap #FossilFuels
3 The Failure of #GreenEnergy
4 Dwindling #Resources like sand and rubber
5 Topsoil #Erosion
6 #Water #Shortages
7 #ClimateChange
8 #Biodiversity Loss #extinction
9 #Migrant Crisis
10 Increasing Conflict

MHowell, to Collapse
markhburton, to random
@markhburton@mstdn.social avatar

Now then.
I've analysed the data. I've carefully considered what it's telling us.
As a result I have a hypothesis, likely to be a robust law of political economy.

"The more a politician uses the word 'growth', the less they have any idea how to fix the economic, social and environmental crisis that is engulfing the world.

Paradigm cases: Truss, Sunak, Starmer, Reeves.

#GDPGrowth #degrowth #overshoot

MHowell, to random

Here is a book that I read probably 30 years ago that left an impression: Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change

ISBN: 9780252009884
ISBN-10: 0252009886
https://www.thirdplacebooks.com/book/9780252009884

Description: Our day-to-day experiences over the past decade have taught us that there must be limits to our tremendous appetite for energy, natural resources, and consumer goods. Even utility and oil companies now promote conservation in the face of demands for dwindling energy reserves. And for years some biologists have warned us of the direct correlation between scarcity and population growth. These scientists see an appalling future riding the tidal wave of a worldwide growth of population and technology.

#overshoot

PIK_climate, to random
@PIK_climate@wisskomm.social avatar

“My emotional response is anger. With every square kilometre of deforestation, every fraction of degree of global warming, we are raising the risk of a tipping point. Yet, it is incredibly simple to just stop deforestation. It is an absolutely unique ecosystem that we really can’t afford to lose”, says PIK scientist Niklas Boers, co-author of the newly published study on the South American monsoon in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/04/south-american-monsoon-heading-towards-tipping-point-likely-to-cause-amazon-dieback

HistoPol, (edited )
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@ogtrekker


We did.
The remaining question for me is how quickly we can make the northern parts of South America and of Africa, as well as the Middle East etc. inhabitable again for unborn? generations.
The is still picking up speed*, tipping points will be like using the "turbo boost" on KIT in Knight Rider.

And even if not, 300 mn. to 2 bn. will mean the breakdown of civilization as we know it.

We're at least 15 years late...
@PIK_climate

godsouza, to climate
@godsouza@sfba.social avatar

: If the world’s highest emitting countries only focus on technological climate solutions (like switching to renewable energy) and not behavioral ones (like buying less stuff and using less energy), the authors argue, may be slowed. But —which includes symptoms like loss, collapse, and —will worsen. And as overshoot worsens, the authors argue, “the likelihood of societal breakdown increases.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/heated/p/do-we-need-to-change-our-behavior

jackofalltrades, to random
@jackofalltrades@mas.to avatar

"""
It can be very easy to live our lives and only occasionally glimpse the reality. (...) But when we zoom out and look at the sum total of our impacts, the story is clear. Put bluntly, we are eating away at our own life support systems. And this has happened extraordinarily recently. If we keep going, we risk triggering a dramatic and potentially irreversible change in living conditions.
"""

https://theconversation.com/what-are-planetary-boundaries-and-why-should-we-care-213762

#overshoot #degrowth #DoughnutEconomics

SheDrivesMobility, to random German
@SheDrivesMobility@norden.social avatar

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  • HistoPol, (edited )
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    @Saupreiss @SheDrivesMobility
    (2/2)
    ...es ist/wäre einfacher, etwas grundsätzlich zu ändern, was sich nicht durch Lobbyismus, der in vielen Ländern, nicht nur den USA, viel mächtiger ist, als man gemeinhin denkt, wieder zurückdrehen lässt, mit mehr Basisdemokratie.

    In Deutschland gehört das Grundgesetz geändert.
    Aber das steht bei keiner der Parteien im Bundestag im Wahlprogramm, soweit ich weiß.
    Auch deshalb: #overshoot
    Für diese und mindestens die nächste Generation kommt vieles zu spät.
    //

    CathOBrian, to climate
    ViolaB, to random German
    @ViolaB@mastodon.social avatar

    Wofür sind eigentlich diese Warntage, wenn die eh nicht gut funktionieren?

    Äußerdem wovor sollen wir genau gewarnt werden und was dann?

    Ich meine wenn Kim Jong Un und Putin durchdrehen und uns so ein Ding dann trifft (oder vielleicht auch nicht ich bin noch nicht überzeugt von der Qualität Nordkoreanischer Waffen) ist es dann nicht einfach zu spät?

    HistoPol,
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @ViolaB

    Ich halte es da ganz mit dem Ökonom John Meynard Keynes:

    In the long run, we're all dead.

    Ausserdem bin ich zwischenzeitlich von #Overshoot überzeugt und 1-2 Mrd. Klimaflüchtlinge wird unsere globalen Gesellschaft nicht ohne Totalkollaps überleben.

    Wie Buddha sagte:

    "Verweile nicht in der Vergangenheit, träume nicht von der Zukunft. Konzentriere dich auf den gegenwärtigen Moment."

    @wolf

    ajsadauskas, to climate
    @ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

    Right now, could you prepare a slice of toast with zero embodied carbon emissions?

    Since at least the 2000s, big polluters have tried to frame carbon emissions as an issue to be solved through the purchasing choices of individual consumers.

    Solving climate change, we've been told, is not a matter of public policy or infrastructure. Instead, it's about convincing individual consumers to reduce their "carbon footprint" (a term coined by BP: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/23/big-oil-coined-carbon-footprints-to-blame-us-for-their-greed-keep-them-on-the-hook).

    Yet, right now, millions of people couldn't prepare a slice of toast without causing carbon emissions, even if they wanted to.

    In many low-density single-use-zoned suburbs, the only realistic option for getting to the store to get a loaf of bread is to drive. The power coming out of the mains includes energy from coal or gas.

    But.

    Even if they invested in solar panels, and an inverter, and a battery system, and only used an electric toaster, and baked the loaf themselves in an electric oven, and walked/cycled/drove an EV to the store to get flour and yeast, there are still embodied carbon emissions in that loaf of bread.

    Just think about the diesel powered trucks used to transport the grains and packaging to the flour factory, the energy used to power the milling equipment, and the diesel fuel used to transport that flour to the store.

    Basically, unless you go completely off grid and grow your own organic wheat, your zero emissions toast just ain't happening.

    And that's for the most basic of food products!

    Unless we get the infrastructure in place to move to a 100% renewables and storage grid, and use it to power fully electric freight rail and zero emissions passenger transport, pretty much all of our decarbonisation efforts are non-starters.

    This is fundamentally an infrastructure and public policy problem, not a problem of individual consumer choice.

    #ClimateChange #urbanism #infrastructure #energy #grid #politics #power @green

    FantasticalEconomics,
    @FantasticalEconomics@geekdom.social avatar

    @jackofalltrades @jgkoomey @urlyman @ajsadauskas @green

    Even if absolute decoupling is possible, we can no longer view it as a reasonable strategy. If we started in the 60's, sure, maybe we could have maintained a slow-growing economy while staying within Earth's biophysical constraints.

    But we didn't.

    We are now so far outside safe bounds (#overshoot) that the theoretical possibility of absolute decoupleing seems moot, at best. And perhaps a dangerous distraction.

    https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html

    M0CUV, to DOOM
    @M0CUV@mastodon.radio avatar

    This article on Ecological Overshoot, and how we’re inexorably doomed in the not too distant future has disturbed me greatly.

    https://medium.com/@CollapseSurvival/overshoot-why-its-already-too-late-to-save-civilization-e834cb4ec694

    #overshoot #doom

    Bundesregierung, to random German
    @Bundesregierung@social.bund.de avatar

    Immer wieder lesen wir in den Social-Media-Kommentaren, dass Deutschland kaum Einfluss auf die Erderwärmung habe. Das ist falsch. Weitere Fakten, mit denen Sie Mythen zum #Klimawandel entgegentreten können: http://bpaq.de/faktencheck_klimawandel

    HistoPol, (edited )
    @HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

    @GreenFire

    I agree wholeheartedly with all your assessments .
    This is why humanity stands where it stands: #overshoot.

    The things I wrote down 1m ago that would be required are very unlikely to happen--on time, if at all:

    https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/111447109036208006

    Even the #TESCREAL billionaires can only hope that #Elmo's Ark will be ready on time.

    But why they would want to live in a hostile Martian colony and lacking the technology to terraform #Mars instead of saving Earth eludes me.

    @Bundesregierung

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