kissane, to Futurology
@kissane@mas.to avatar

This week, I went over to Bluesky and asked people who'd left Mastodon why they left, and lots of people told me. I grabbed the replies and crunched them and wrote up a summary. I think it's really interesting and often kind of wrenching.

https://erinkissane.com/mastodon-is-easy-and-fun-except-when-it-isnt

#meta

A clear victory for the free fediverse: Meta now says integrating with ActivityPub is "a long way out" (privacy.thenexus.today)

When Meta launched their new Twitter competitor Threads on July 5, they said that it would be compatible with the ActivityPub protocol, Mastodon, and all the other decentralized social networks in the fediverse "soon"....

mastodonmigration, (edited ) to Futurology
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Summary from long thread on instance blocking.

M = Meta
A = Allows Meta (does not block)
B = Blocks Meta

  1. A boosts B's post. Can M see B's post?
  2. A replies to B's post. Can M see B's post? A's reply?
  3. A boosts M's post. Can B see M's post?
  4. A replies to M's post. Can B see M's post? A's reply?

Mastodon default (@jerry)

  1. Yes
  2. No Yes
  3. No
  4. No Yes

Mastodon auth_fetch ON

  1. No
  2. No Yes
  3. No
  4. No Yes

Calckey (@kainoa)

  1. No
  2. No No
  3. No
  4. No No

1/2
#Meta

mastodonmigration, to Futurology
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Subject: What's going on with Meta?

To: @Gargron, @ruud, @jerry, @supernovae, @stux, @trumpet, @kev and other large instance admins

Rumors are tearing this place apart out here about secret deals with . The latest is that Meta has held meetings with some of you and they will federate with large instances under contracts providing financial support (1) (2).

This is a time for leadership, not silence. Please, what's going on?

(1) https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/110598855375585873
(2) https://mastodon.social/@alexeheath/110596207691212890

steve, to internet
@steve@s.yelvington.com avatar

#Meta

Blocking all content from #Threads is a personal choice. (Any #Mastodon user can block everything from any domain.)

Demanding that all content from Threads be blocked by all instances for everyone (defederation) is Karenism.

Justifying it by claiming it's a threat to your culture ... well, I've heard that argument before.

davidrevoy, to threads
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org avatar

The recent excitement surrounding Thread's arrival on the Fediverse is concerning. To understand why this is not a good idea, consider their economic interest in harvesting data, their poor moderation, and their manipulations. Nothing good can come from their federation. Don't roll out the red carpet for them.

emc2, to Facebook

I and others have talked a lot about the #Facebook / #Meta #FediVerse issue over the past few days, analyzing their strategy, and possible responses, and why pre-emptive blocking isn't an effective measure.

This leaves the question of "what should we do?" So....

ITT: actually effective measures for building the resilience of the FediVerse and #ActivityPub, informed by the experience of the #OSS movement.

(This is going to be a long one)

aral, to threads
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Dear @Gargron,

A fediverse server called Threads is violating mastodon.social’s second server rule:

“2. No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia…
Transphobic behavior such as intentional misgendering and deadnaming is strictly prohibited.”

https://glaad.org/smsi/report-meta-fails-to-moderate-extreme-anti-trans-hate-across-facebook-instagram-and-threads/

Can you please defederate from this server to protect the trans people on mastodon.social?

Thank you.

PS. It’s run by these guys: https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/26/facebook-secret-project-snooped-snapchat-user-traffic/

loshmi, to Futurology
@loshmi@social.coop avatar

All this conversation about on feels like the worst parts of geek culture. So technical, without understanding context or what strikes can actually do. My thoughts:

Meta will make a great app for Fedi because it has more money to throw at the task. People will start using that because it's better. It will have QTs and an algorithm. People they want to follow will be there.

🧵1/6

tchambers, to Futurology

With the upcoming Fediverse service, there has been a, well, robust discussion of how to avoid threats looming. Those advocating mass-preemptive defederation make three cases for it.

➡️ To avoid data mining ...which Defederation does virtually zero to avoid any big tech entity scraping all the fedi public social graph today - Want proof?
see: https://is.gd/q8U2pv

The next argument is about poorly moderated P92 user posts and ad spam.
Which I'll discuss next.

🧵 1 of N

davidrevoy, to Futurology
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org avatar

Meta: "MAY I JOIN YOU?"


protonmail, to Futurology
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

So 's new app needs your health and fitness info. It also needs your browsing history and your location, and your purchases, and...well, it seems to need everything. If you want to get fully creeped out, here's the whole policy: https://privacycenter.instagram.com/policy/.

Mina, to Futurology German

What if, instead of to #Meta, the #Fediverse got a gateway to #Secondlife?

I reckon, this would be rather cool.

If you have no idea, what I am talking about: It is a virtual reality simulation, which has been around for ages, has been a huge hype once, but is still up and running.

It's a place to be creative, to build, to craft, and it's also some kind of social network, but with no connection to real world data.

aral, to fediverse
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Some fediverse instance admins: “How cool, Meta invited us to the adult table.”

Yes, they did.

Because you’re what’s for dinner.

#fediverse #mastodon #meta #Project92 #BigTech #SiliconValley #SurveillanceCapitalism

mastodonmigration, (edited ) to Futurology
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Meta Specific Data Rights Limitation Notice

Notice is hereby given to Corp. by this account, and all signatories, that all data rights are reserved. No license is granted other than those limited rights as per the account's instance Privacy Policy (eg. https://mastodon.online/privacy-policy).

Specifically no authorization is given for: 1) Monetization in any way, 2) Profiling for targeted advertising or other purpose, 3) AI, LLM or algorithm training.

Simply reply, boost, or favourite to sign

liaizon, (edited ) to fediverse
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

An important distinction is slowly being uncovered about the definition of the term "fediverse." Who is it that gets to decide what this place is? How are we being represented? These are not easy questions to answer and if we don't do a better job describing ourselves, then the job will get done for us by people who don't understand the underlying values we hold. #fediverse #meta #threads

aral, (edited ) to Facebook
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Folks, the reason #Facebook/ #Instagram/ #Meta/ Zuckerberg hasn’t launched #Threads in the #EU isn’t because the EU is determined to protect your privacy, it’s because the EU is determined to protect The Single Market (peace be upon it) from anticompetitive behaviour. It’s because they’re using Instagram to launch Threads and sharing data between them (and not with EU startups that might want to use that data too). It’s #antitrust, not #privacy. It’s markets, not people.

#DigitalServicesAct

sivusta, to internet

Pitihän nyt sitten blogata tästä ronsuinstanssin (miten tämä kuulostaa niin matemaattiselta?) vaihdoksesta. Ja hyvä kysymys on nyt sitten se, että voiko tähän koko höskään luottaa.

https://sivusta.blogspot.com/2023/07/dontilla-vai-ilman.html

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