Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...
@beto It might be a good idea to not do that thing that happened with Mastodon, where everyone thinks the Mastodon is the Fediverse. There is more to the #threadiverse than just lemmy!
If there isn’t much cross-platform engagement between the #threadiverse and #mastodon, and Reddit migrants leave because of insufficient activity … is this a failure of sorts of the #fediverse ?
I’m leaning yes. If cross-platform activity is essentially irrelevant but more of a minor awkward perk at times then the fediverse doesn’t exist (yet) at the level of being a social media platform or space.
Instead, it’s a tool for FOSS platforms to scale through decentralisation.
"Reddit is discovering the same thing that Twitter is also discovering: when you build a service where the value is all the free content that users provide, you’re going to run into some problems when you suddenly start acting like you 'own' all that, and you feel the need to put up paywalls for access.... at some point those users are going to realize they have the power to go elsewhere."
If I understand federation correctly, my reply should/could turn up on the lemmy instances involved in the thread - even though I don't have a lemmy account.
A lot of media cannot think in any other terms than VC-funded startups chasing hockey-stick growth, and proclaiming them failed the moment that growth slows down.
#Fediverse in general, and #Threadiverse in particular, are not VC-funded startups. They don't need that hockey-stick growth.
We're here to build resilient, equitable, safe communities, not to maximize shareholder value. Don't get distracted or disheartened because some people don't get that.
the #fediverse might include the #threadiverse but while following #Lemmy communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.
I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.
If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.
Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.
Other things that may need saying:
vanilla Masto doesn't render HTML or Markdown formatting so fedi accounts on that protocol will always see plain text versions. Some Masto forks will honour formatting, while most other fedi protocols have no issues rendering (and these days you will likely be interacting accounts coming from the Calckey/Misskey/Akkoma/Pleroma/WriteFreely protocols anyway, or they'll be using clients that can render formatting)
microblog will scrape fedi content that has the tag it's looking for, but there's a tag primacy delimiter. I can't find it in the documentation but i know it will look for the first tag in the post for sure. This is going to impact auto discoverability by microblog route as many posts come with multiple hashtags. The fedi protocols optimized for microblogging like masto has no such tag primacy rule which is why a frequent advice is to follow hashtags.
some non-masto fedi protocols, like kbin, can write posts with the Title attribute. That means if you write such a post and tag this magazine, it will also be posted/sent directly to the Thread section. Others can also post directly to magazines (and Lemmy communities) but the Post-status of the content will automatically send it to the Microblog section.
"...new services always experience 'scalloped' growth. That’s where an outside event — a positive narrative about the new service, or a catastrophe affecting the old one — drives a surge of new users.
Some...try the new service, decide it’s not worth it, and leave — but not all of them. Each event triggers a high tide of new signups, but the low tide that follows is still higher than the old ...Surge after surge, the number of users steadily builds."
Well: current research is showing that even as larger servers grow, smaller ones are growing FASTER cumulatively so at least thus far decentralization is working in the Fedi as far as microbloging. And the growth now in #Kbin and other #Threadiverse servers I'd think has potential to make that even greater.
So, is it time now for "spread mastodon/fediverse" to adapt somewhat and spread the "#Threadiverse" (my moniker, fediverse for reddit-like platforms, eg #Lemmy and #kbin)
And to stress the need for help ... here's the core #lemmy dev calling for the load to be spread amongst instances as the core/flagship instance is being overrun: https://lemmy.ml/post/1147770
Would it be an interesting idea for various current mastodon admins to put up parallel lemmy (or alternative #Threadiverse instances)?
@atomicpoet if you count the 23k more from https://www.hexbear.net (an instance that currently has federation turned off, but is planning on turning it on soon) then Lemmy is already passed 130k but if we also add Kbin to that (which people have now been calling #threadiverse) thats another 7k+ Also a there is bot up now at @threadcount thats been fun to watch.
So new #lemmy users might be pretty sharp and switched on.
I've seen a number of people just starting their own instances to help with the load.
And I've already seen conversations where people have started discussing migrations, account mobility, services to make the boundaries between instances less cumbersome. A real thriving and capable community might be building around there.
Depending on how the #reddit meltdown goes, the #threadiverse (#lemmy, #kbin etc) might be a good place to contribute if you're keen to build new things in the fediverse.
As a (former) Reddit user, I just joined #Kbin to watch and help support the potential #RedditMigration coming from that platform. Here is me there: @tchambers
And I just supported @ernest the creator of the platform, and so should you: suspect next week he will need all the support the Fedi can give.
Ok, so the #reddit#migration is entering a pivotal moment. Subreddits will come back online soon and those who’ve made the migration will be tempted to go back.
Whether they stay on #lemmy/#kbin will probably be determined by how much activity they have.
If you care about the fediverse, you may want to make sure you show up and engage with our new members.
If the 10M members of the fediverse at large counts for something, the #threadiverse should feel it right now.
For those tracking the #threadiverse (#lemmy and #kbin): beehaw.org has defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Both have open registration and accounts have been causing problems on beehaw. Here’s the announcement https://beehaw.org/post/567170
It sounds like the right call to me, at least for now. I get it why everybody wants to have open registration to
make it easy for people migrating from Reddit… but without good mod tools, it’s a recipe for trolling.
Ok so thanks to the #RedditMigration i set up a #kbin account myself - the #fediverse might include the #threadiverse but while following #Lemmy communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.
I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.
If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.
Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.
I followed a few lemmy communities from mastodon and they have pretty quickly taken up the majority of my timeline. The amount of writing going on in the #threadiverse rn is pretty incredible
How has ur lemmy experience been so far?
Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...
What's the term for Lemmy users?
Lemmies? Lemmings?
Reddit Wave and the Threadiverse
As much as there is plenty of new people joining the threadiverse, the real wave starts today, with thousands of subreddits going dark....
MagASEAN & getting around the threadi/fediverse
Based on my experience so far, new posts using the hashtags tracked will show up on the microblog. Old posts aren't going to get picked up....
Lemmy growth is crazy!
cross-posted from: https://blahaj.zone/notes/9frdhito22...