vermaden, to news
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nergahak, to random

My #NetBSD 10 desktop.

FVWM with minimal config and asclock.

nergahak, to random

is cool!

andrew_chou, (edited ) to FreeBSD
@andrew_chou@toot.cafe avatar

no idea how far this will reach but let's try:

if I were to start learning more about one of the listed BSD operating systems, which would you recommend? Guessing the answer could be different if we're talking about daily desktop usage vs server, so maybe clarify your answer via a reply if you can (fwiw, probably more interested in daily desktop usage, but open to whatever too).

#FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD

JdeBP,

@andrew_chou

Given that you said "learn about" and not "use", and given that you said that you had MacOS, I'd say learn FreeBSD first, then NetBSD, then OpenBSD.

It's worth learning them all.

But is the closest to what you have in MacOS, with there being somewhat of a common heritage from many years ago; will expand your horizons from that, and then is the furthest away from MacOS with very different ideas about almost everything and different abstractions.

ParadeGrotesque, to random
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Finally going home after a whole day of meetings.

I'd like to update my 15 VMs...

I also think I need to double-check my qemu installation, as 7.2.9 seems to be the last 7.x version (I have 7.2.7 installed).

I still have and VMs to update or reinstall.

Thinking about setting up a mirror.

SearxNG is definitely something I need to setup.

Also SNAC2 under Slackware.

flywheel, to FreeBSD

How big a difference between and is there actually, when talking daily use ?

anubhav,

@flywheel Things to consider:

  • network hardware support, namely WiFi;
  • sleep-resume cycles;
  • power management;
  • #ZFS was listed as experimental for #NetBSD 9. Per Wiki <https://wiki.netbsd.org/zfs/>, I would rather use FreeBSD which supports root on ZFS without the detour of FFS;
  • availability & support of Rust software as Python ecosystem seems to be using more of that as time goes by.

I personally need to check the situation in #FreeBSD with Intel CPUs with all E cores.

BoxyBSD, to FreeBSD German
@BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe avatar

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stuartl, to retrocomputing
@stuartl@longlandclan.id.au avatar

Here goes… #NetBSD on a Toshiba Portégé 7010CT.

Pentium II 300MHz
160MB RAM #RetroComputing

jspath55, (edited ) to random
@jspath55@chaos.social avatar

Choose your destiny:

jspath55, (edited )
@jspath55@chaos.social avatar

Screen shot (widescreen, as it were) from #NetBSD with the cpio manual page shown, as listed above.
(edits:

image details: PNG image data, 3200 x 1080, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced

[ 1.000004] cpu0: AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics , id 0x730f01

hardware:
HP Pavilion Desktop 550-a114

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04755753

1 DVI, 1 VGA conjoined imagery.

)

Padukajorat, to FreeBSD

#FreeBSD and #NetBSD wallpaper.

image/png

ParadeGrotesque, to random
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Wait, I probably need to update all my VMs to 10.0 now that it has been officially released... 🤔 :netbsd:

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Let us start by downloading the official 10.0 #NetBSD release ISO images... 🤓

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, after 2 days filled with 8 hours of meetings EACH, it is my displeasure to say that, not only are my #NetBSD VMs NOT updated, but my #OpenBSD VMs are not updated either!!

Much unhapiness ensues, especially since I am now way too tired to do any updating at all.

The updates (or is that complete re-installation?) have therefore been postponed to tomorrow

I would like to apologize for any inconvenience. :netbsd: :openbsd:

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

#NetBSD also has sysupgrade, but it does not support upgrading a VM from NetBSD 9.3 to NetBSD 10 as far as I know (corrections are welcome if you know better!).

So, what the heck, I'll re-install from scratch, it only takes about 5 minutes anyway... :netbsd:

A NetBSD 10 installation screen, white text on blue background, showing the installation program downloading the pkgsrc tar file over the network.

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Here is the thing with #NetBSD : I like it, I really do, but it's the ton of little infuriating details that bug me.

Take a look at the 2nd screenshot: you will see NetBSD tries an ipv6 address before switching back to ipv4 once it hits a timeout.

Which is fine, except there is no obvious way to disable ipv6 anywhere in NetBSD. And I have searched for a solution!

Conversely, #OpenBSD is as smooth as a cold glass of water in a heatwave. DHCP does not provide ipv6? Disable it!

ParadeGrotesque,
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I mean, it's right there in the #OpenBSD ifconfig man page, while there is no such entry in the corresponding #NetBSD page (again, unless I am mistaken, corrections by smarter people are very welcome)

https://man.openbsd.org/ifconfig

The result is that, on an ipv4 only network, all the utilities will keep on timing out trying ipv6 addresses first.

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

So: upgrading #OpenBSD to 7.5:

sysupgrade

(reboot)

pkg_add -u -vv

syspatch

And we are done here! :openbsd:

Total time? About 10 minutes.

Updating to #NetBSD 10.0 = reinstall.

(Remove previous OpenSSH key from .ssh/known_hosts)

Total time? About 10 minutes. :netbsd:

Good job everyone! 🤓

jbzfn, to wireguard
@jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

🎉 NetBSD 10.0 Released With Much Improved Hardware Support & Faster Performance | Phoronix

#NetBSD 10 provides #WireGuard support, support for many newer #Arm platforms including for #AppleSilicon and newer #RaspberryPi boards, a new Intel Ethernet drive, support for Realtek 2.5GbE network adapters, #SMP performance improvements, automatic swap encryption, and an enormous amount of other hardware support improvements that accumulated over the past 4+ years 」

https://www.phoronix.com/news/NetBSD-10.0-Released

wvc, to random
@wvc@emacs.ch avatar

Wow #NetBSD is REALLY lightweight out of the box

santiago, to random
@santiago@masto.lema.org avatar

Installing browsers on a :rpi: Pi 3 running #NetBSD

  • NetSurf 5Mb
  • Firefox & dependencies : 300 Mb

And don’t get me started on launch times nowadays as a quad core CPU at 1.2 GHz is “slow” and “low end”.

Yes I am aware NetSurf cannot display most modern websites. I am not blaming Firefox. I blame the websites.

When is that #smolweb thing finally going to rule the world ?

#oldNerdYellingAtCloud

santiago, to random
@santiago@masto.lema.org avatar

I like that part about #NetBSD where they insist on running on everything. Doesn’t mean the thing is actually useable though but it’s amusing.

Here an installation on a bare 14 MHz Amiga 1200. You may want to skip ahead if you don’t have an hour to watch text pass by.
https://youtu.be/hJ5fuCA5tM8?si=0f58pwe8dXHHLt36

ParadeGrotesque, to random
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

I have to say, this one line made me laugh:

"This also caused the release announcement to be one of the longest we ever did."

https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_10_0_available

Congratulations again, #NetBSD on the release of version 10! :netbsd:

Now, to update all the VMs I have lying around... 💪

jschauma, to random
@jschauma@mstdn.social avatar

#NetBSD 10.0 has been released! This has been a long time coming, with recent security issues necessitating updates and delays.

NetBSD 10 includes POSIX.1e ACLs, experimental WireGuard support, and a range of performance improvements:

https://netbsd.org/releases/formal-10/NetBSD-10.0.html

(It's worth noting that NetBSD is not affected by the #xz #backdoor, both because that targets Linux/glibc/systemd and because the version of xz shipped with NetBSD predates the inclusion of the backdoor code.)

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