enobacon, to climate
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

People can't imagine a future where we banned cars, but how many failed techbro propellerheaded ideas to stop do you need to see before it's hard to imagine one where we didn't?

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@cyclotopie @gallegre @TiconderogaNo1 yes but who is using carshare for their daily commute? In settings where the vast majority would prefer better options, most still drive and have a hard time understanding or supporting policies that make driving short trips a less desirable option. Build streets for cars only = get traffic congestion. #InducedDemand

When people don't need cars for most trips, and #parking isn't free, car-sharing becomes useful.

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

It's a car/oil industry op, trying to focus on media giving drivers agency so drivers will feel bad and get all not all drivers, nobody will recognize that cars are the problem.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

I wonder if higher speed limits create #InducedDemand for more miles-traveled by car, but #Portland has been steadily reducing speed limits yet their VMT is flat. What they haven't reduced, is the number of lanes available to cut-through the city by car. This makes sense intuitively, as I've caught up by e-bike, to drivers in traffic, who are averaging at best 20mph despite high posted speeds. Maybe posted speed only comes into play with low congestion.

#transportation

BrentToderian, to random
@BrentToderian@mastodon.online avatar

"Adding highway lanes to deal with traffic congestion is like loosening your belt to cure obesity." - Lewis Mumford in 1955.

We’ve known this for a LONG time, but we’ve put massive energy, money, space, and time into pretending we don’t know it.
#InducedDemand #lawofcongestion

Highway jammed with cars
Massive highway interchange
Highway jammed with cars

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

Public space is the most valuable resource of #cities, and they squander it on cars. Not "but I need to drive" or "economic activity and essential mobility blah blah blah", we could have all of that with a fraction of the asphalt. Not even "driver convenience". No, it's just stupid extra lanes for the worst drivers to pass law-abiding ones and go wait at a red light sooner, and empty free parking. Wasted. #InducedDemand #CarsRuinCities #Urbanism

enobacon, to fuckcars
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

Just imagine how much money and environmental destruction we would save if DOTs took #20isPlenty and #VisionZero seriously instead of building 2x2 racing lanes for cars in each direction so drivers can go sit at a red light slightly sooner and admire each others debts for longer. #pdxTraffic #FuckCars #InducedDemand #PBOT #ClimateCrisis #HousingCrisis #CarSupremacy #SeeYouAtTheNextLight you're only averaging 18mph by the time it turns green anyway. 🤷 #pdxBikes

enobacon, to portland
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

So this whole work session to explain to ted and his pals that cutting the planned fee increase in half has consequences. 😞 Just think of what we could be working on instead of this fuckery. not , not

https://bikeportland.org/2023/09/26/pbot-paints-bleak-picture-as-council-considers-budget-crisis-fix-379737

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

I think PBOT should just ruthlessly cut how many lanes go through until drivers cry about it, and then cut some more, and then spend the leftover money on beer handups for bike commuters, but what do I know about subsidizing driving #InducedDemand

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

TSP-designated City Bikeway, has only yellow stripes for carway 😞 . It's like this everywhere: the bike network is not built. C/W traffic violence

https://bikeportland.org/2023/09/19/bicycle-rider-hit-and-killed-on-north-portland-road-379516

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

There is a sidewalk/sidepath trail for much of this stretch but not where it crosses the slough and is posted at 45mph. 😒 #YellowCenterlines #Vision60or70Something #InducedDemand for more driving is not #VisionZero

glightly, to cycling
@glightly@mastodon.social avatar

A couple canny cyclists using the ol' pool noodle to get drivers to obey the 3 ft. passing law even on a narrow rural road (you just have to wait...it's what you would do for a slow-moving car). CA State Route 116 near Monte Rio. #BikeTooter

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@glightly If these were #EdgeLaneRoads, drivers would be able to pass as long as there's not a car coming in the other direction. It's a better way to share the space when people on bikes are going both ways and cars who don't like it don't come back if they can avoid it. #InducedDemand 🎉

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

I honestly don't believe #PBOT can't do the math on the weight of some concrete barriers, it's the value of keeping cars out of bike lanes that they just don't understand. Children's safety and independence vs the fully-imagined satisfaction of your "customers" that you subsidize at like $5/mile, it's a tough call. #CarsRuinCities #StuffInTheStreet #CarSupremacy #cars1stAlwaysOnly #trafficEngineers #InducedDemand

https://twitter.com/enobacon/status/1701797236211138623

capntransit, to random
@capntransit@urbanists.social avatar

People have presented congestion pricing as though its only benefits were funding the MTA or reducing congestion, but Sadik-Khan has at least one more:

"To reap a huge street dividend. Congestion pricing is projected to reduce traffic by 20 percent. That means one in five cars will disappear. So there’s an opening for the city to innovate and create separate lanes for e-bikes, scooters, and mopeds that don’t belong in regular bike lanes or mixed in with traffic."

https://www.curbed.com/2023/09/janette-sadik-khan-nyc-congestion-pricing-rollout.html

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@capntransit dirty industry secret: if you plan for 2/5 or 3/5 of cars to disappear, they disappear, congestion pricing or not. | are just two sides of the same coin.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@capntransit that is the most wrong take on #InducedDemand I've heard? There are arguments against congestion pricing (time is more equitable, just have other options and congestion will self-manage) but if you want to be able to buy your way out of being stuck in traffic, you need to pay enough that other people will choose other options. Raise the price until the desired level of service can be met, regular free-market shit.

Ruth_Mottram, to Copenhagen
@Ruth_Mottram@fediscience.org avatar

"one more lane will fix it"

Rush hour in #Frederiksberg, #copenhagen #CycleInfra #InducedDemand

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

lmao at the youtuber's commute and subaru hooning https://youtu.be/oDGNNxY56k0b #InducedDemand

BrentToderian, to random
@BrentToderian@mastodon.online avatar

As our kids go #BackToSchool, never forget that we ARE the traffic that we’re using as an excuse. If more walked, biked or rode transit to school, it would erase a massive number of car trips each day, and our kids would be safer, healthier and better at school.

Spread the word.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@cshentrup @BrentToderian the extra car lanes on these streets with no bike lanes leave parents choosing between sitting in traffic or elbowing their way through on a bike. How about letting kids walk or bike on their own? Across a freeway offramp... it's all designed and maintained to make cars seem like the only option, and threaten you with cars if you don't play along. #InducedDemand

ukulelehans, to Ottawa

Just got back from a day in . Ottawa must have the worst traffic in the country! Also bummed out that the Aerospace and Aviation Museum is closed on Tuesdays.

the5thColumnist,
@the5thColumnist@mstdn.ca avatar

@ukulelehans @johnefrancis
Even if you can argue there are not enough lanes now, history has proven if you add more lanes there will still not be enough lanes. #InducedDemand

enobacon, to portland
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

Basically since the moment bulldozed the trees and widened 39th (now Cesar Chavez Blvd) to four lanes, residents have stories of how they & other kids were not even allowed to go near that street on their bikes. But the bureau of "" remains perplexed about how to solve the problem they created or how to make their budgets work 🙄

https://www.portland.gov/transportation/bbac

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

$1.5M/mile, is that per lane-mile? To pave a street. People don't really need 10 different ways to cut through a neighborhood in cars, though. This of leaving a wide-open self-serve free-for-all of asphalt and free parking, is not paid for by gas tax and user fees, it's a cost borne by the people who live there and everyone who would have to bike or walk through it.

tagesschau, to random German
@tagesschau@ard.social avatar

Neubau der Autobahnbrücke zwischen Wiesbaden und Mainz wird eröffnet

Ein Ende der Staus ist in Sicht: Nach jahrelanger Bauzeit wird die neue Schiersteiner Brücke zwischen Wiesbaden und Mainz feierlich eröffnet. Am Montag wird der Verkehr dann erstmals komplett über die Doppelbrücke rollen.

➡️ https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/regional/hessen/autobahnbruecke-wiesbaden-mainz-100.html?at_medium=mastodon&at_campaign=tagesschau.de

thorsten4future,

@tagesschau Ich kotze im Strahl 🤮

Es reicht schon, einfach nur "Induzierter Bedarf" (induced demand) zu googeln, um zu verstehen, dass das eine Märchenerzählung ist, zumindest jenseits kurzzeitiger Entlastung.

Staus vermeidet man durch eine echte #Mobilitaetswende, nicht durch Autobahnbau!

#Autokorrektur
#InducedDemand

hembrow, to cycling
@hembrow@todon.eu avatar
enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@hembrow @djasa @lennartnout how are these charts counting the bike-to-transit trips? Is that two journeys?

You're not wrong about #InducedDemand of train trips generating emissions, but shifting out of cars allows better land use, more bicycle trips, etc. Because geometry hates cars. Besides trains being plugged into the grid (though trolleybus fleets and overhead wires will be more effective than laying new rail in most urban/ suburban cases)

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@djasa there's also the #InducedDemand of a redundant network of free car streets and 3-5 free parking spots for every car, which the city spends millions per day to subsidize and jumps into action to fix in the middle of the night when some driver makes an oopsie out of a traffic signal pole or some other infrastructure. In that context, if all you get on a bike is told to "share", well it would be silly not to drive.

@hembrow @Pepijn @lennartnout @Marrekoo

enobacon, (edited ) to portland
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

NE 33rd and Fremont, where's the bike lane? Did I leave my phone's googlemaps in car directions oh lol I think I did. you get the you build for. Let's do and pull that lever for fewer stinky cars and more people on bikes.

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

You get the traffic you build for, #swCapitolHwy edition. #PBOT is so proud of the $26M they spent on the next mile of this street, which our TSP designates as a Major City Bikeway, but sharrows are trash. #pdxBikes #InducedDemand #Vision60or70Something

https://urbanists.video/videos/watch/d49ec32b-625d-469f-a845-5c88068a3c0e

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

"For example, many agencies will simply remove pedestrian facilities to reduce the cost of compliance." 🤦‍♂️ #StrongTowns #InducedDemand

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2023/7/28/if-we-want-a-shift-to-walking-we-need-to-prioritize-dignity

enobacon, to random
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar
enobacon, to transit
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

"Better Naito" was not made wide enough. Just a dozen people on bikes was difficult to get through a single green cycle because half of the group has a length of hill to climb where the first half was and they can't get much tighter than 2-up because the width is miserly (yes ted I said miserly). #PBOT coulda used that money to make Cesar Chavez safe for #pdxBikes & moar #transit, besides having bike lanes on the repaved Hawthorne, spent millions downtown to expand i5 traffic 39 blocks east.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

Much of the problem with Naito, is that the traffic signal cycles are trying to favor freeway traffic in/out of downtown, which is just #InducedDemand for more #pdxTraffic. It's like your city is expanding a freeway without building any new lanes, just opening all of #Portland to anyone with a car to drive through, with at least 50 thruway options for any trip, racking up a debt of crumbling surface streets and running people who bike off of the road while delaying the bus.

enobacon, to cycling
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

"This is the standard method that the Netherlands uses to prevent people from driving through a neighborhood, and they make the streets safer and more enjoyable for everyone who lives there."

Also basically the only solution to traffic, and will still be the answer, no matter how much time we waste wishing for some other option.
@notjustbikes

https://youtu.be/ymcBC7MFRIk

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@fishidwardrobe the cars mostly just vanish. Half of car trips are under three miles. If you make it easier to go without a car, people will take that option. This is known as #InducedDemand or #trafficEvaporation - every bike ride in Amsterdam would have been a car trip (driving to the gym even.)

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