ThinkingSapien, to TeslaMotors
@ThinkingSapien@mstdn.social avatar

I drive an EV. I do not suggest that others drive an EV. It's the car for me, it might not be the car for you. Despite this, I have a friend that constantly engages in discussion with me on why I won't be able to convince her to get an EV.

I have never tried to convince anyone to get one! I'm not sure why she does this.

ThinkingSapien,
@ThinkingSapien@mstdn.social avatar

She does this concerning religious discussions too!

I'm not religious. Whether someone else is religious is their business. I don't care beyond what ever they try to compell me to do becuase of it. Same friend both tells me I won't convince her to become non religious while trying to convert me.

I grew up in a Christian Family! I had the owner of Chick Fil-A as a Sunday school teacher. I am familiar with Christianity, but not convinced. I'm not trying to deconvince anyone else.

LouisIngenthron,
@LouisIngenthron@qoto.org avatar

@ThinkingSapien Like any hobby, when you enjoy arguing, you'll look for any excuse to do it.

ai6yr, to autos
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar
MsMerope,
@MsMerope@sfba.social avatar

@ai6yr everything does these days though right?
I've been agonizing over this list for awhile now. I need to make a decision soon. I don't want to spend another central valley summer with no ac in the car !

Also need something that would be safe, secure and easy to throw the bike or cpr manikins into the back of.

Open to other suggestions.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/best-cars-under-30000?slide=23

ai6yr,
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@MsMerope You're asking the guy with a 1999 Toyota 4Runner with peeling paint? 😂

cs, to climate
@cs@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Are electric cars better for the environment than fuel-powered cars? Here's the verdict - ABC News
(At least for the Australian power market)
I’d also like to see these types of charts include battery replacement. And this doesn’t address the increasing issue of carbon use due to city structure caused by the reliance on cars as opposed to building and zoning for local & mass transit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-27/comparing-electric-cars-and-petrol-cars/103746132

glynmoody, to random
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

Donald Says He'll Stop All Electric Car Sales - https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-says-stop-electric-car-sales-1851503550 "By threatening the livelihoods of blue collar American workers, Trump may be doing more harm than good for his case in these manufacturing-reliant states."

gavin57,
@gavin57@toot.wales avatar

@glynmoody I wonder if the rise in Chinese EVs is just an excuse. It is equally plausible that Tesla is going down because Musk's persona is becoming increasingly toxic. This is an amusing chart though. To me it looks like things are on a knife-edge.

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

@gavin57 yes, probably a mixture of both

Toastie, to climate
@Toastie@journa.host avatar

need ~30 lbs of cobalt, so the US needs millions of tons for the EV boom, which will continue to push 1000s of Black women, men, and children into pits and tunnels.

Of the 255,000 Congolese mining for cobalt, 40,000 are children. They might work for around $2USD/day.

No one knows how many have been killed in the mines.

The Congo has over 90x the amount of cobalt in the U.S., where people are exploited for it.


https://capitalbnews.org/congo-clean-energy-us-workers/

Ing_2016,
@Ing_2016@twit.social avatar

@Toastie
This needs to be shared widely. The cost of these so-called items that are going to save the environment are wrecking havoc on the places with the resources. Why are they living in poverty when they have what we want? And why are children doing these jobs?

ArrowbearMoore,
@ArrowbearMoore@toad.social avatar

@Toastie The graph on this site showing where it comes from is kinda eye-popping. So is their statement on responsible sourcing. https://www.cobaltinstitute.org/about-cobalt/cobalt-life-cycle/cobalt-use/
Australian owned Jervois has the only primary cobalt mine in the US, between the largest wilderness area in the 48 states & the former Blackbird cobalt mine, which is now a superfund site.
And Apple is catching shit for its DRC sources - https://www.ft.com/content/9d0dea0a-d613-438c-9921-a47dedc015cf

acemaxxanalytics, to bapcsalescanada
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momentum for is slowing globally, and hybrids and plug-in are proving more competitive than first thought, chart @GoldmanSachs

neilgall,
@neilgall@mastodon.scot avatar

@acemaxxanalytics I had a plug-in hybrid. Kept it less than a year. Hardly ever needed the petrol engine but it was horribly inefficient as an EV. Never again.

Hypx, (edited )
@Hypx@mastodon.social avatar

@acemaxxanalytics PHEVs were basically sabotaged because they never got the subsidies that BEVs got. This created an illusion of BEV success. But reality is catching up to BEVs. As a result, market forces are shifting consumer interests to HEVs and PHEVs. BEVs sales will plateau or even starting decline because they are simply too expensive.

remixtures, to China Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

#China #BYD #EVs #USA: "“The Western markets did not democratize EVs. They gentrified EVs,” said Bill Russo, the founder of the Automobility Ltd. consultancy in Shanghai. “And when you gentrify, you limit the size of the market. China is all about democratizing EVs, and that’s what will ultimately lead Chinese companies to be successful as they go global.”

Inside a huge garage in an industrial area west of Detroit, a company called Caresoft Global tore apart a Seagull that its China office purchased and shipped to the U.S.

Company President Terry Woychowski, a former chief engineer on General Motors’ big pickup trucks, said the car is a “clarion call” for the U.S. auto industry, which is years behind China in designing low-cost EVs.

After the teardown, Woychowski, who has been in the auto business for 45 years, said he was left wondering if U.S. automakers can adjust. “Things will have to change in some radical ways in order to be able to compete,” he said."

https://apnews.com/article/china-byd-auto-seagull-auto-ev-cae20c92432b74e95c234d93ec1df400

graydon,
@graydon@canada.masto.host avatar

@remixtures The US is the Oil Empire. There will only ever be one.

China wants to displace the US as the global hegemon. That requires displacing the Oil Empire, which at its most basic means domestic decarbonization in China. Hence EVs and solar are for-serious policy.

In the US, cars exist to create a market for fossil fuels. (Suburbs exist to create a market for cars.) Incumbent power requires this; incumbent power rests on this.

Incumbents refuse all change they have the power to refuse.

remixtures, to tesla Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

Elon Musk is such a Jocker :-D LoL!!!

#Tesla #EVs #AI #Autopilot #SelfDrivingCars: "Tesla Inc. must face a proposed class-action lawsuit alleging that it misled consumers about its cars’ self-driving capabilities, a fresh setback for the electric-car maker just as Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk has staked the company’s future on autonomy.

Tesla has been accused of overstating in 2016 that all its upcoming cars would have the “hardware needed for full self-driving capability” and would be able to drive themselves from Los Angeles to New York City by the end of 2017.

“If Tesla meant to convey that its hardware was sufficient to reach high or full automation,” the complaint “plainly alleges sufficient falsity,” US District Judge Rita Lin wrote in an order Wednesday."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-15/tesla-must-face-suit-alleging-buyers-were-misled-about-autopilot

Norobiik, to cars
@Norobiik@noc.social avatar

temporarily modified the rates of import duty on , including their parts, from between 5 percent and 30 percent to zero percent until 2028.

The tweaked EO 12 also covers hybrid and plug-in hybrid , , , , , as well as completely knocked down EVs for all types of vehicles.

Marcos okays for hybrid e-vehicles
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1941537/marcos-okays-zero-tariff-for-hybrid-e-vehicles

gowin,
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@Norobiik

EVs are not the solution to the #Philippines's traffic woes.

Keep taxing them and build better public transit facilities!

KimPerales, to climate
@KimPerales@toad.social avatar

Many automakers are sabotaging the world’s efforts to avoid catastrophic global warming by lobbying against EV transition: https://thedriven.io/2024/05/14/nearly-all-major-car-companies-are-sabotaging-ev-transition-and-japan-is-worst-study-finds/

Casey, to Hydrogen
@Casey@newsie.social avatar
KimPerales, (edited ) to TeslaMotors
@KimPerales@toad.social avatar

is anti- , despite producing , & a sociopath:

Tesla is being sued by the Environmental Democracy Project, which alleges “ongoing failure to comply with the Clean Air Act” at the company’s assembly plant in Fremont, CA. The Bay Area Air Quality Mgt. Dist. previously said Tesla has allowed “unabated emissions” in Fremont. CEO Elon Musk is telling investors these days to think of the company “almost entirely in terms of solving autonomy.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/14/tesla-sued-over-air-pollution-from-factory-in-fremont-california.html

croselund, to random
@croselund@mastodon.energy avatar

OK so this is cool.

Having known a few people in my teens and 20s who lived in their VW buses, I've always considered these to be a more practical vehicle than most sedans (and certainly compared to SUVs). And now they are going electric!

#EVs #energytransition

https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html

ai6yr, to politics
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar

you-know-who "has reportedly told oil executives that he will end electric car incentives if they contribute $1 billion to his election campaign." https://electrek.co/2024/05/09/trump-reportedly-told-oil-execs-hell-end-electric-car-incentives-for-1-billion-in-donations/

me_valentijn,
@me_valentijn@mastodon.social avatar

@ai6yr

Is that even legal? It's one (crooked) thing to accept their money and generally act in their best interest. But overtly making an offer to do something specific in exchange for something specific for the financial betterment of both parties ... it's just good ol' fashioned corruption 🤔

ai6yr,
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org avatar

@me_valentijn Yes, and they will lap it up.

MugsysRapSheet, to TeslaMotors
@MugsysRapSheet@mastodon.social avatar

IGNORE THE FALSE CLAIMS OF INTEREST IN DYING OUT. It's lies being spread by to scare you out of buying an .

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