Edent, to solar
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🆕 blog! “One MegaWattHour of Battery Power!”

Less than a year ago, in August 2023, we installed a 4.8kWh Solar Battery at a cost of £2,900. Whenever I talk about the upfront capital costs of solar power, people rightly want to know what the payback period is. Well, after less than 10 months, the battery has given us 1MWh. To put that […]

👀 Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/05/one-megawatthour-of-battery-power/

blog, to solar
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One MegaWattHour of Battery Power!
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/05/one-megawatthour-of-battery-power/

Less than a year ago, in August 2023, we installed a 4.8kWh Solar Battery at a cost of £2,900. Whenever I talk about the upfront capital costs of solar power, people rightly want to know what the payback period is.

Well, after less than 10 months, the battery has given us 1MWh.

To put that in to context, the average UK household uses about 3MWh per year. So (again, very roughly) over a third of our electricity use this year has come from the battery.

But where does the battery get its energy from? We have two sources.

First is solar. When the sun is shining, our solar panels produce electricity. That flows down from our roof and into our mains wiring where it is used by the home. If we are using less electricity than is being produced, the electricity flows into the local grid and we get paid for selling our surplus.

Our battery has sensors attached to the grid connection. When it detects surplus generation, it starts charging. By constantly monitoring our overproduction, it can charge up with free solar power.

But the sun doesn't always shine (ain't that the truth!) so there are days when our solar production is less than our usage.

In these cases, the battery charges from the electricity grid. We have a smart tariff which changes price every 30 minutes. The battery knows the day's prices and can predict our daily usage. If it can see that electricity is cheap at 3am and expensive at 4pm, then it will charge up during the early hours of the day and discharge at peak time.

The battery occasionally sits idle. Mostly when it has fully charged but knows an expensive period is coming up later.

What does that mean for money?

Well... it's complicated! When the battery charges from solar, is the electricity free? No! If we were to sell that surplus electricity to the grid, we would be paid 15p/kWh.

When the battery charges from the grid, is the electricity expensive? No! Because we are on a dynamic tariff, we occasionally get paid to use electricity! Our provider has paid us up to 5p/kWh to charge!

When the battery discharges, how much does it save us? Again, complicated! Because we're on a dynamic tariff our prices change every 30 minutes. Sometimes the rates are as high as £1/kWh, other times they're 1p/kWh. Generally speaking, the battery only discharges if the price of use is higher than the cost of acquisition.

So... I've fudged the figures! For the first year of operation, energy prices have been high. Based on a back-of-a-fag-packet calculation, I reckon the battery saves us an average of about 31p/kWh. Call it about £360 per year in savings.

That gives us a payback time of about 8 years.

Of course, if electricity prices spike, payback will be quicker. If they crater, it'll take longer. If we switch to electrical heating or get an electric car, the savings will be greater.

Domestic battery technology is still a bit of a tough sell. The batteries are large and their fans are noisy. The cost of materials and installation is high and their capacity is relatively small. But the technology behind them is sound. With a dynamic energy price tariff, they're one of the best way to reduce utility bills.

Obligatory referral link

Join Octopus energy and we both get £50. They have regular and dynamic tariffs, and a pretty cool GraphQL API.

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/05/one-megawatthour-of-battery-power/

davemark, to apple
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Your iPhone Low Power Mode automatically kicks in when your battery is down to 20%.

You can change that number,

Here's how...

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/set-iphone-low-power-mode/

#Apple #iPhone #Battery

Casey, to Energy
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tripplehelix, to solar
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Is there am easy and good way to monitor the charge of a battery bank?

publicvoit, to homeassistant
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What happened to the Android app? 🤷

stshank, to MIjazz
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Batteries are growing on the grid to handle evening power use surges when solar peters out. California just hit 7GW out of 10GW capacity. Our house is battery powered from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. and will be part of a virtual power plant soon.

Today batteries help with daily peak shaving; longer gaps in solar/wind production are harder. could help with that but is only one part of the overall solution. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/07/climate/battery-electricity-solar-california-texas.html

stshank, to Texas
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New energy storage company came out of stealth today: Base Power. Batteries in your home, but the company owns and operates them. https://www.basepowercompany.com/#FAQ

ChrisWarwick, to octopus
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My electricity bill for last month: Import costs ~£50, export credits ~£90. Overall credit for April: £40 (including standing charges and running an electric car).
This is thanks to Solar PV, a House Battery and a flexible tariff from (Intelligent Go) - all orchestrated with
Capital cost was high but well worth it 👍

Screenshot of my electricity bill showing an import of 410kWh offpeak, costing around £30; and only 10.8kWh at peak rate, costing around £2.80. Standing charges for the month are £17.50.
Screenshot of a graph from my electricity bill showing a profile of a typical day's usage; there is almost no grid consumption during the peak rate period.

AnnaAnthro, to China
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ErikJonker, to Energy
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Aquabattery secures €6M investment to drive long duration energy storage innovation.
Interesting, batteries using just water and salt.
https://aquabattery.nl/news/aquabattery-secures-6m-investment
#aquabattery #renewables #energy #battery

glynmoody, to random
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Tumble in storage costs to boost shift to , says IEA - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/tumble-storage-battery-costs-boost-shift-renewables-says-iea-2024-04-25/ such an important development (v slashdot)

stshank, to Energy
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California power grid now has batteries that can supply 10GW of power, which is a lot. Yesterday they peaked at 4GW vs. total power demand of 25GW in the evening, when solar peters out, per CAISO. (Power demand gets much higher in summer with air conditioning.)

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/04/25/california-achieves-major-clean-energy-victory-10000-megawatts-of-battery-storage/

tuxedocomputers, to linux German
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🔋Long battery life🔋

If it takes longer and there is no power available - the battery in our TUXEDOs is at your side!

https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Notebooks/Alle.tuxedo#!#1349,1385

amadeus, to Blog
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My dilemma just got updated with some background information and I guess a resolution. 😊 https://amadeuspaulussen.com/blog/2024/inverter-dilemma

sirber, to linux
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It's odd... under X11, I use 10W more on my battery than on Wayland. Same usage...

#linux #wayland #battery

CelloMomOnCars, to Batteries
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"#Batteries the biggest player again as renewable records smashed in #California, reach 156 pct of load

Last week battery storage became, for the first time, the largest supply source in the evening peak of what is one of the world’s largest grids. On Tuesday, it discharged more than 6 GW for the first time, providing up to a 25 per cent share of supply, and was the biggest provider on the grid for two hours."

https://reneweconomy.com.au/batteries-the-biggest-player-again-as-renewable-records-smashed-in-california-reach-156-pct-of-load/

CelloMomOnCars,
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"#Battery storage in #Victoria continues to displace gas as a provider into the evening peak, with more than 200 MW of battery output on Saturday night, and zero from the state’s peaking gas generators. Battery storage often supplies more into the evening peak than the gas generators, particularly at lower peak prices."

https://reneweconomy.com.au/big-batteries-leap-to-new-charging-record-in-australias-main-grid/

cdarwin, to random
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Researchers at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) have developed a high-power hybrid - that ⭐️can be charged in seconds. ⭐️
Sodium is nearly 1000 times more abundant than lithium.
https://interestingengineering.com/science/sodium-battery-charged-in-seconds

chris, to TeslaMotors
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"Comprising the newly developed anode and cathode, the assembled full cell forms a high-performance hybrid sodium-ion energy storage device, which crosses the energy density of commercial lithium-ion batteries available in the market. According to researchers, the device exhibits the characteristics of supercapacitors’ power density."
#EV #CleanEnergy #Battery
https://interestingengineering.com/science/sodium-battery-charged-in-seconds

amadeus, to Musicproduction
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sfwrtr, to Batteries
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Want some for your post-apocalyptic story? Four years after the pandemic started, 7 out of 7 examined -powered candles had burst batteries. 3 out of 7 had destroyed circuitry and were irreparable. I restored four of the candles to working order with a lot of cleaning and scrubbing, but of course they required fresh .

Takeaway: Nothing battery-powered left for four years will work when found. Much of it will be destroyed.

Bonus: Gasoline has a shelf life and may be useless in 6-12 months. Sorry, no verisimilitude in Mad Max.

and

amadeus, to Energy
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I wasn't aware of the . 🤓 Very interesting stuff! https://youtu.be/KVqHYNE2QwE

madargon, to random
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Me: keeping running on my and forgetting about it.
Also me, few hours later: What the hell is eating my so fast?!

:blobcatsweatflips:

aud, to Batteries

… ummm, is this battery bulging??? I’ve never had that happen so I’m unsure what to do here. It feels… a lil spongy. Do they have a slight foam barrier orrrrr

bornach, to Vape
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The tiny 400mAh in this cheap turned into a puffed up pillow. I've replaced it with a 350mAh one I salvaged from a single-use disposable device. In spite of the lower capacity, it is significantly larger than the original battery. Hope it can still fit in the available space.

Also fitted a JST connector to the speaker wires in case I need to disassemble again for a future .

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