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randahl, to random
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In the state of Utah, state representative Ken Ivory introduced a law banning books containing obscene, or indecent material.

Now, this law has lead to The Bible being banned from school.

But Ken Ivory now promises to "clarify the standard" and perhaps even mentioning The Bible in his law, explicitly stating that his preferred book is exempt from his law.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/lawmaker-calls-unaccountable-nontransparent-committee-banning-the-bible-in-utah-school-district

johnwehrle,

@randahl Rules for everyone but me.

marcprecipice, to SanFrancisco
@marcprecipice@xoxo.zone avatar

I think this is quite a good situation report on San Francisco’s Valencia Street bike “lane” project. There is no good outcome here. We use the center-running lanes and risk getting hurt or killed, or we take the drive lane and risk enraging drivers, or we don’t do either and that gets interpreted as lack of demand. Obviously avoiding injuries and deaths is better between those options, but what a stupid outcome; what a waste of goodwill. https://sf.streetsblog.org/2023/06/28/commentary-dont-bike-on-valencia #BikeLanes #SFMTA #SanFrancisco

johnwehrle,

@marcprecipice

I don't live in SF, I'm not familiar with this project, and I don't ride a bicycle but even I take one look at that photo and think, WTF?

johnwehrle, to random

I have sympathy all around in this situation.

But if there's stuff you really need people to avoid touching and you can't necessarily trust everyone who has access to avoid touching it... Maybe you should add some layers or locks or something.

@smellsofbikes did you see this?

https://apnews.com/article/e6b6cf9e67102f0fa8dc154045e614db

johnwehrle,

@smellsofbikes

Hey thanks for the insight. I was feeling they'd dropped the ball here but I have no experience in this sort of situation.

mekkaokereke, (edited ) to random
@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io avatar

If a terrible person says something correct or true, you don't have to say "[Terrible person] was right about [X]." I mean, you can say it, but you don't have to.

The terrible person is rarely the originator of whatever it is that they said that was correct. Saying that they were right about [X] is often an attempt to give them credit for something positive. It comes from a place of wanting them to be more accepted by the public.

We should explore why the speaker wants them to be more accepted

johnwehrle,

@mekkaokereke

Absolutely!

Also, without empathy and the knowledge that no one is wrong all the time it's easy to develop the habit of thinking that all dangerous people are inhuman super villains. Which then leads easily to thinking everyone is either (xor) a dangerous super villain or a good person.

But moral monsters are just normal people. Pretending otherwise feels safer but is actually less so. We can be monsters or not and to varying degrees. Caricatures can make it harder to see this.

me, to StarTrek
@me@social.taupehat.com avatar

Oh dear. #startrek

johnwehrle,

@me
Oh bother

johnwehrle, to random

Pick your hypothetical sentence!

Mine is... 3 months

#Hypothetical #Indictment

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kr8gSdJ_Ggw&feature=sharec

johnwehrle, (edited ) to random

Polls should have ranking options.

#polls

johnwehrle, to random

Wait just a gosh darned minute.

Are you telling me the US security agencies didn't take white supremacist domestic terrorism seriously?!

Why, based on the evidence of the entirety of my nation's history I'd have to say... That is 100% predictable.

#j6

https://apnews.com/article/81bb6cd4fadb056b83a22a0226165fc5

cobalt, to random
@cobalt@awscommunity.social avatar

Our first ever new mailbox and we got to pick it out. Son John installed it over two days to make sure the cement in the hole was set up well. Hours of drip watering that spot to get the old one out. Soil here is very hard to get through due to caliché about 4” down. Feeling accomplished, ha ha!

johnwehrle,

@cobalt nice looking box!

nazgul, to random

Drove down from Maine to Boston today.

Had to pull over three times to remove a tick. And that’s not counting the one that crawled out from under my watch band before I left.

Maybe I’ll stick to visiting my mother in the winter.

johnwehrle,

@nazgul

Ick, ick, ick!

(I am a westcoast kid.)

johnwehrle, to random

Forget full stack, my next project is to learn everything.

Just, all things.

I will be omniscient.

(This is a career requirement, right?)

jhpot, to random
@jhpot@mastodon.social avatar

should i get an iPhone SE or Pixel Xa? I cannot emphasize to you how little I care about phones I just want to text and use maps

johnwehrle,

@jhpot

If they don't matter very much, just flip a coin. I don't think you'll be disappointed either way since your requirements are so minimal.

johnwehrle,

@jhpot not trying to be snarky it's just that they both do those things quite well.

cobalt, to random
@cobalt@awscommunity.social avatar

Well this is going to be a trip. Taking son to dental college for 3 fillings. 45 minute drive and 2 1/2 hours in appointment. We leave in 15 minutes and he’s roaring and pounding already.

johnwehrle,

@cobalt
No show and no call. Yikes!

johnwehrle, (edited ) to random

Is this too many polls?

#absurdist #polls

johnwehrle,

The people have spoken. It is a mandate. For what? Absolutely. 100%

johnwehrle, (edited ) to random

Anchovies?

johnwehrle,

The people have spoken. All things must have anchovies on them.

Including anchovies.

Which, of course, must have anchovies.

Ad infinitum.

In the limit, all things are anchovy.

Anchovy is All
And All is Anchovy

Thus ends the poll.

nazgul, to random

As some of you have probably noticed, I’m hanging out in rural Maine visiting my mother and doing assorted chores. Today a friend of hers came by, along with her 8 year old grandkid. I’d been working outside and was sweaty, so I was watching from the door when my mother went to greet them. And I immediately noticed two things.

  1. The kid was was wearing a t-shirt that said “Equality” with a rainbow.
  2. Their grandmother referred to them as “she” and then corrected herself to “they”.

So I popped inside, took off my sweaty shirt, and put on my “Some Kids Are Trans. Get Over It” t-shirt and came out to greet them.

Super bright kid. I had a nice time chatting with them and showing them around. And they were awesome with my mother’s dog, who is afraid of kids.

I did my level best to get my mother to use the right pronouns. But despite myself and the grandmother using them, she didn’t get the hint. Then when folks were out of the room, I told her specifically. She said she’d never heard of such a thing. Later she was talking to my uncle and she said it was silly and she wouldn’t do it. As silly, she said, as all the fuss over using “he” and saying it didn’t automatically include women. Later over a lunch, I had a knock down/drag out fight over it that left me shaking. What’s frustrating is that it’s not non-binary or trans she’s complaining about, she just thinks anything that makes her change is silly and not worth the effort, and no stats will change her mind. Plus, she absolutely denied she had told my uncle she wouldn’t do it. And then when backed into a corner, claimed that she hadn’t meant what she said! CW SUICIDE: STOP HERE It doesn’t help to remind her (didn’t have to, she brought it up) that as a teen back she had a close Native American friend who transitioned but later killed themselves. (In the 40’s, good lord, poor woman). But she refused to put two and two together. Left me absolutely shaking with anger. SAFE TO KEEP GOING

Oh well. Maybe some of will sink in eventually once she’s gotten over my telling her “No”. She doesn’t like it when I do that.

But lets hear it for trans and non-binary eight year olds! Absolute breath of fresh air.

johnwehrle,

@ispeters @nazgul
The "boost" button is for that. It's the two-arrows-in-a-loop icon. It's basically a share or repost action. Starring has no amplifying effect.

johnwehrle,

@ispeters @nazgul

Definitely. I think I misunderstood when you said "amplify". I think that's just starring here. (React emojis would be fun but they don't have them)

johnwehrle, to random

1/n
A refinement of some previous thoughts on types of fallacious moral thinking. (wip)

I'm making this post because I see so much poor moral reasoning in media and online.

One response, you might argue, would be for people to just stop all moral reasoning.

However, that seems to be utterly impossible. Even arguments against moral reasoning are almost all moral arguments against moral reasoning.

There is no way out but through.

johnwehrle,

@androcat

A lot of questions! (Good)

So, logic is mostly agnostic about subject matter. It can be applied to anything. Poetry, mysticism, religion, art, whatever.

And it is, all the time. It's just that logic usually happens implicitly and beneath awareness.

An example of logic in a moral context:

  1. Stealing is morally wrong.
  2. Wage theft is a type of stealing.
  3. Therefore wage theft is morally wrong.

Depending on translation, this is modus ponens (P -> Q, P, Q)

(Other Qs in a bit)

johnwehrle,

@androcat

Popular intuitions about the nature of morality seem to shift by era and culture quite a bit.

For example, turn of the century intellectuals in elite Western settings often presumed that morality is nothing more or less than personal taste - and as consequential as your taste in ice cream. It was just supremely unimportant.

And yet topics that we, today would think of as being serious moral issues were just not seen (by the intellectual elites, mind you).

johnwehrle,

@androcat

Nietzsche famously railed against the existence of morality (by which he meant the strict, hierarchical Victorian mores of his context) but then also wanted people to lead authentic lives where they take their own actions and character seriously.

Why does the first count as morality but the second does not? That's just the only way N could imagine the word applying.

johnwehrle, (edited )

@androcat

Well, 1, notice that the moral principle in the example is a premise and not a conclusion. That's usually how it works.

2, logic is derived from language, or at least ordinary experience, so it's not surprising that, whether it's prudent or not, we use logic for everyday things all the time. Moral reasoning is just one of them.

3, just because logic is involved in ordinary life doesn't mean ordinary life is logical.

4, I wouldn't say Gödel & Turing are saying this imo.

johnwehrle,

@androcat

To elaborate on 1, something is always given. Even in axiomatic systems there are... Axioms. And first principles of ethical systems is a core piece of the history of ideas.

dredmorbius, to books

The Modern World Can't Exist Without These Four Ingredients. They All Require Fossil Fuels

Four materials rank highest on the scale of necessity, forming what I have called the four pillars of modern civilization: cement, steel, plastics, and ammonia are needed in larger quantities than are other essential inputs. The world now produces annually about 4.5 billion tons of cement, 1.8 billion tons of steel, nearly 400 million tons of plastics, and 180 million tons of ammonia. But it is ammonia that deserves the top position as our most important material: its synthesis is the basis of all nitrogen fertilizers, and without their applications it would be impossible to feed, at current levels, nearly half of today’s nearly 8 billion people.

https://time.com/6175734/reliance-on-fossil-fuels/

Paywall / broken JS: https://archive.ph/7FFlL

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31395036

Edit: tyop: s/Payall/Paywall/

#VaclavSmil #Postcarbon #FossilFuels #Materials #GlobalWarming #ClimateChange #Limits #LimitsToGrowth #resources #Books

johnwehrle,

@dredmorbius

We need a lot of R&D and industrialization. Things not usually associated with environmentalism.

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