hrefna, (edited ) to random
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

A fermi estimate.

Assume that everyone follows roughly 150 people and is followed by the same, and that your average person has 10 notes per day + some number of interactions that may have a smaller audience.

If we follow the specification as written and don't use a sharedInbox that comes out to every person sending 1500+ messages a day and receiving ~1500 messages a day. About 6 MiB of data.

Across the entire fediverse with 1.5 M users you'd be looking at 4.5 B messages. 4.5 TB.

A day

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paoloredaelli,
@paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno avatar

@hrefna
Afaics a similar scaling issue had been handled in the past by NNTP, i.e. #newsgroups. I wonder if we could look at oldish NNTP to learn a trick or two

publicvoit, to reddit
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dangoodin, to random

It should be clear now that it was and remains a catastrophic mistake for people to view privately owned social media platforms as any kind of public resource. People didn't know better a decade ago. They have no excuse now.

cazabon,

@dangoodin

I'm going to disagree with that last bit - people did know better a decade ago, at least some of us. Social spaces on the net long predated the arrival of big tech and commercial social sites - we used email and #newsgroups and the Unix talk and finger protocols and #IRC and other things to keep in touch with people, from the person at the terminal next to yours, to someone at a university halfway around the world.

We warned about the big #commercial sites when they arrived.

bnftsftw, to fediverse

I've been spending a lot of time on #Lemmy and #kbin and the communities both here and there remind me a lot of the communities that I encountered in #IRC chatrooms and #newsgroups back in the day, ie. highly nerdy, highly tech literate.

The #fediverse creates a lot of interesting new technical and social problems, but it also solves the problem of how to get big tech the fuck out of my social media. I think I'll stay.

jacobydave, to random

In the 90s, in one of the newsgroups I was in, someone wrote "merkin" instead of "American".

The "Two Types of people" are people who get that joke deeply and those who don't.

mjgardner,
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

@jacobydave And then there’s the increasingly vanishing set that knows about #newsgroups 🧓

publicvoit, to internet
@publicvoit@graz.social avatar

With #reddit basically killing all 3rd-party apps (https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/) I just wanted to remind you of my article that warned about losing all important contributions on large platforms:

https://karl-voit.at/2020/10/23/avoid-web-forums/

You should think of using alternatives that do not suffer from all these lock-in effects.

I'd strongly suggest a revival of the good old #Usenet (#newsgroups). We've got plenty of awesome clients for that already.

#publicvoit #decentralization #webforums

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