Heute Abend diskutiere ich mit @AnjaHirschel , Rechtsanwältin Renate Schmid und #StopKillingGames-Sprecher Daniel Ondruska die EU-Initiative gegen das Computerspiele-Sterben.
Als #Piraten setzen wir uns für die Rechte von Gamer*innen ein und für die gleichberechtigte Anerkennung von #Gaming als modernes Kulturgut!
Jetzt live diskutiere ich mit @AnjaHirschel , Rechtsanwältin Renate Schmid und #StopKillingGames-Sprecher Daniel Ondruska die EU-Initiative gegen das Computerspiele-Sterben.
Als #Piraten setzen wir uns für die Rechte von Gamer*innen ein und für die gleichberechtigte Anerkennung von #Gaming als modernes Kulturgut!
A while ago I started getting involved in the Stop Killing Games campaign. I signed the petition. I wrote on my blog. I started writing up a report and I was hoping I could send to my MP to explain my position on the issue. Now, an election has been called. The UK government will soon shut down it’s entire democratic output until the result is called.
A side effect of the election is that all petitions currently open get closed. They won’t be re-opened afterwards. No responses to open petitions will be given. In effect, the slate is wiped clean.
I can understand that during a pre-election time and for some time post election while the new government is forming, it does not make sense for the government to engage with their petitioning platform, and indeed there are rules about non-interference. But I find it incredibly insulting to all the people who hold views bound up in the petitions to simply discard them once this process is complete.
The Stop Killing Games petition is incredibly important from a view of Digital Consumer Rights. An issue which I seriously doubt any of the electable political parties are going to bother mentioning, even as a footnote deep within their manifestos. Action such as petitions is one of the most effective ways to get these views across.
The DCMS previously failed to engage appropriately and was instructed to issue a new response. Unless they have an incredibly quick turnaround in the upcoming days, it is now highly likely this will not happen, and the current petition campaign will be consigned to history.
I am venting here because I find it immensely irritating to be teased with what looks like democratic engagement only to have it taken away from me after putting effort into it. The same holds true for the thousands of other campaigns that people had started. At time of writing there are 1415 open petitions that should still be accepting signatures, 9 petitions waiting for an initial response from government (not counting petitions needing additional responses), and 2 petitions that should be set for debate.
If I happen to come across any politicians during this campaign I will be challenging them on this, and I would encourage everyone else in the UK to do the same. Just because politicians leave their jobs and government gets wiped clean does not mean that everyone else’s priorities disappear.
#StopKillingGames.com aims to delegalize game publishers thanos-snapping games you've paid real money for when they feel like it. Exactly what Ubisoft recently did with The Crew.
🇩🇪 Gutachten zu Computerspiel-Sterben: #Piraten drängen auf klare EU-Vorschriften gegen willkürliches Abschalten von Spielen. Europa muss die kulturelle Bedeutung von Games anerkennen und ihre Communitys schützen. #StopKillingGames
🇬🇧 Expert opinion on the extinction of computer games: #Pirates urge clear EU rules against arbitrary game shutdowns. Europe must recognise the cultural importance of games and protect their communities. #StopKillingGames@accursedfarms
#StopKillingGames petition update:
🇬🇧 : The UK Petition is now 20% towards requiring a parliamentary debate. With an election looming, an optimistic view would be that opposition parties could recognise this as an issue and make pledges. That might be unlikely, but still worth trying to push for 80K more signatures, and there's many months to achieve this. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/659071/
🇦🇺 : The Australian petition is now live. Their site says petitions need at least 50 for referral. It's met that already, but the more the better. It closes in just over a week. https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN6080
🇬🇧 #Pirates call for cultural protection of video games. In collaboration with the #StopKillingGames initiative I am asking a priority question to EU digital Commissioner Breton.
🇩🇪 Computerspiele-Sterben: Wir #PIRATEN fordern einen EU-weiten Kulturschutz für Games. In Zusammenarbeit mit den Gamern von #StopKillingGames habe ich eine Dringlichkeitsanfrage an den EU-Digitalkommissar eingereicht.
🇩🇪#StopKillingGames: Jetzt kommt auch Rechtsanwalt Solmecke zu dem Schluss, dass ein Spielehersteller ein Spiel zwei Jahre nach einem Kauf zur Verfügung stellen muss und anders lautende AGB unwirksam sind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pu8Pzaa-xo
🇬🇧#StopKillingGames: Lawyer Solmecke now shares my opinion that a game manufacturer must keep a game playable for at least two years after a purchase and that terms and conditions providing for arbitrary discretion are invalid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pu8Pzaa-xo
Nie stwierdzono wymogu grywalności gry, jeśli nie ma rozsądnie popartego oczekiwania bezterminowego działania.
Prawo do naprawy czyni środki techniczne konieczne do utrzymania oprogramowania w działającym stanie legalnymi.
Nie można mieć oczekiwań, że dostawca uczyni oprogramowanie dostępnym i sprawnym na każdej platformie, wliczając przyszłe.
Niestety tekst petycji nie sugerował pojawiania się growego odpowiednika planowanego postarzania, a rząd chyba nie załapał nierozsądnie szerokiego wymogu serwerów, nawet do funkcjonalności rozsądnie realizowanych bez potrzeby serwera.
Petycja aktualnie ma nieco ponad 16 700 podpisów i jest jeszcze kilka miesięcy na odbicie do 100 000, które zakwalifikują temat do debaty parlamentarnej. Może wtedy zostanie poruszony aspekt umieszczania de facto kill switcha w programie.
Przypominam, Przestańcie Niszczyć Gry (Stop Killing Games) to kampania, która ma wymusić na twórach gier typu Live Service, plan na zakończenie wsparcia, który umożliwi granie po zamknięciu serwerów.
I’ve been playing and enjoying games like Virtua Tennis 4 for more than a decade, and these jokers want to come along and say “we’re absolutely shutting down your SINGLE PLAYER game in two years.” #StopKillingGames
Ruszyła australijska petycja w sprawie kampanii #StopKillingGames tutaj czas na podpisy jest dużo krótszy niż w UK, bo jedynie 30 dni. Za to nie ma progu podpisów potrzebnego by petycja została przekazana do rządu. Od 50 podpisów petycja może zostać skierowana do odpowiedniego ministra. Aktualnie licznik podpisów przekroczył 700. Jeśli zncie kogoś ze stałym pobytem w Australii albo obywatelstwem, przekażcie.
Przypominam, Przestańcie Niszczyć Gry (Stop Killing Games) to kampania, która ma wymusić na twórach gier typu Live Service, plan na zakończenie wsparcia, który umożliwi granie po zamknięciu serwerów.
Ich frage mich, ob es irgendwann zu einem zweiten #VideogameCrash kommen wird. Mit der momentanen Praktik gewisser Unternehmen, muss man sich ja inzwischen die Frage stellen, ob man überhaupt noch #Videospiele kaufen sollte, wenn man sie am Ende eh nicht besitzt und das dem Boomer Gesetzgebern scheinbar egal ist.
The perverse incentives to 🏴☠️ are kind of amusing, but the fraud is not. I would never have guessed "I should own the things I buy" would be a hill we'd have to fight on.
Przypominam, Przestańcie Niszczyć Gry (Stop Killing Games) to kampania, która ma wymusić na twórach gier typu Live Service, plan na zakończenie wsparcia, który umożliwi granie po zamknięciu serwerów.
Spielehersteller #Ubisoft löst Shitstorm aus, indem sie das bis vor kurzem verkaufte Game 'The Crew' nicht nur serverseitig unbrauchbar machen, sondern es auch noch aus den Bibliotheken der Käufer löschen.
Auch der Bayerische Rundfunk BR24 berichtet jetzt darüber, was die Gamer-Initiative #StopKillingGames und wir #Piraten dagegen tun:
If you haven't heard about it yet, it's a legal/political campaign to make game publishers obliged to give you the means to keep playing (online) games you paid for, after they shutdown their official servers forever.
The UK petition to #StopKillingGames is now live! Anyone resident in the UK can sign it. This is an official government petition, so with enough signatures official action needs to be taken by the government.
If you care about videogame preservation, please share even if you can't sign.
Petition Link: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/659071
hi! please take a moment to read up on https://www.stopkillinggames.com – this is an initiative by ross scott (accursedfarms on youtube, aka “the freeman’s mind guy”) to hold game developers and publishers accountable for shutting down game servers for games that were sold as products to consumers, essentially rendering them unplayable.
this is a serious consumer rights issue not just with regards to games being destroyed, but also with regards to the precedent it sets. i don’t know about you, but i don’t want a future of products that just irrevocably break when the vendor wants them to, or loses interest in supporting them.
i especially urge you to take a look and to consider taking action if you bought The Crew, or if you live in France or Germany, as your approaches to this problem are promising to be some of the most effective.