Myślę nad zrobieniem jakiegoś narzędzia, nawet w prostej formie dokumentów Google, aby informować ludzi o następnych eventach, które będziemy organizować w granie w bijatyki, jednocześnie nie zamykając się do Facebooka, jak to wygląda w tej chwili. Macie jakieś pomysły jak to fajnie zmajstrować?
Jest kilka rzeczy, które nie działają zbyt dobrze w projekcie Mobilizon, np. ustawianie lokalizacji jest do poprawki, ale zasadniczo działa wszystko i jest najnowsze tłumaczenie od Kuby.
Parfois je suis sur Mastodon en croyant être sur Blouskaille. D’autres fois, je suis persuadé d’être sur Mastodon, alors que je suis sur Blouskaille. Il n’y a que sur Twittix que je sais où je suis, sans savoir si cela va encore durer longtemps.
Ah, mes amis, c’est devenu compliqué, les réseaux sociaux.
@monsieurkaplan
Je ne connais pas trop #Mobilizon, mais rien que son nom donne bien une idée du projet. "conçu pour créer des plateformes de gestion de communautés et d'événements" indique Fediverse Observer. Il remplace avantageusement certaines fonctions de Facebook.
Pour en savoir plus : https://joinmobilizon.org/fr/
still thinking about the degree to which old habits of online protest carried over from the corporate sites cease to function as they did when transplanted here, in an environment designed to limit visibility and impose friction.
The forms of movement building and viral protest amplification in the Fediverse quite likely are and will be different to those of surveillance-capitalism social media. For protest/event organisation, the Fediverse has #Mobilizon [1]. Current monthly usage is about 100 instances, 30k users, 300k posts [2].
#Lemmy and #Kbin forums could also play another complementary role.
Pour donner un peu de contexte à mes exigences, j'en ai marre que tous les projets qui organisent des événements fassent dans le meilleurs des cas un iframe sur leur site pointant vers un agenda lent (type nextcloud) et dans le pire des cas uniquement de la communication sur les #GAFAM.
J'ai l'impression que #mobilizon n'a pas pris, et je ne suis pas en mesure d'analyser pourquoi vu que moi-même je ne m'en sers pas.
Les deux solutions qui marchent le mieux dans ce que je connais c'est https://monnaie-libre.fr/#agenda qui utilise #discourse en backend. Tout le monde peut publier des événements géolocalisés et datés, en intégrant un système de conversation.
Problème d'interface sur #mobilizon, sur la vue des événements, il n'y a que la date mais pas l'heure, il faut cliquer sur l'événement et donc charger une page de plus pour voir l'heure. Pas de vision d'ensemble donc.
Je me demande quelles réflexions UX hors sol ont abouti à l'interface de #mobilizon totalement déconnectée de la réalité "terrain".
Oui il faut faire plus joli que #demosphere, mais non, il ne faut pas sacrifier la lisibilité et la praticité.
모빌리전
내부 계정을 생성해야한다는 한계점이 명확하다. 개발 기간이 꽤나 길고 꾸준함에도 외부 서버 계정이 댓글을 남기거나 참여 의사를 밝힐 방법 없다. 외부 계정과의 상호작용은 설계 철학과 다른 듯?
다행히 행사 등록 등을 외부 링크로 안내 가능해 서버 간 교차 운영에 문제가 없어보인다.
그래도 범주나 장르를 공유하는 커뮤니티 운영자들이 모여서 행사 공지하고 논의하는데는 도움 될 것 같다.
What works well, I found, is to use Mobilizon as a "front end", and Matrix as a "back end".
People don't have to be on both : #Mobilizon is enough to book your time to an event, and write a comment if you have a question about it.
#Matrix is an additional tool suggested mainly if members of a community feel the need to discuss in between events.
Either to prepare the next one, to carry on a conversation they started at an event, or to chat with just one member etc...
I am considering start a Mobilizon instance, however I sadly discovered that Framasoft doesn't seem to put it in their future product roadmap. Not sure if we will have a sustainable community around it yet. Does anyone know a federated alternative for it that is actively maintained? #fediverse#mobilizon#alternative#events
Framasoft, the French non-profit organisation for open source software such as PeerTube, says that after 5 years, Mobilizon has reached maturity. In December 2018 the organisation announced their plans to develop Mobilizon, with the goal of creating an alternative to Facebook Groups and events.
Over the years, they have added multiple updates, such as federation in 2020 and searching across Mobilizon instances in 2020. This month, they are releasing their final update, v4, with a variety of new features.
Event administrators can now send private announcements to attendees, allowing them to contact all people who have registered for an event directly. This announcement is a one-way communications channel, intended for organisers to broadcast information. Besides that, a chat system for attendees is also implemented, which federates with the rest of the fediverse.
Another new feature is the ability to import and synchronise events from other platforms, such as Meetup and EventBrite. Framasoft created an import tool that allows you to import and synchronise event information from these platforms into Mobilizon. iCal event feeds are support too, so this even works with most calendar tools.
The big platform for importing events from is Facebook. Here, Framasoft has done the work to get it to work, and the ball is now in Facebook’s court to approve and validate. Framasoft is clear that they do not have a timeline how long this will take, and that they are unsure if Facebook will do so.
While Framasoft sees Mobilizon has having completed their vision, it is far from over for the project. Framasoft will hand over the keys to the French association Kaihuri, who has been maintaining a Mobilizon presence for a while. Kaihuri recently got funding from NLnet to continue development work on Mobilizon, focusing on the user experience and improving interoperability. Meanwhile, Framasoft is betting big on PeerTube for next year, and is currently organising their yearly donation drive.
En cette fin d'année morose, peut-être serait-il opportun d'organiser sur le #fediverse une entraide bienveillante, sous la forme d'un vaste #gafout, pour soutenir celles & ceux qui seraient résolus à reprendre le pouvoir sur leurs existences numériques en 2024 !
Is there an easy way to get a full, but also easy to comprehend, list of all events registered to happen on a specific day in a specific area, across all @mobilizon instances?
This is an analog to Meetup.com but is a part of the Fediverse and uses ActivityPub.
This has a few amazing implications...
So!!! You create a personal account on the server and then create a group. The group can then create events.
This is multiuser administration! So the group is separate from your personal account. So you don't have to share passwords for the group account. Instead, you have members join and then assign them administrative privileges. That's huge!
Further, whenever you create an event, it posts it via ActivityPub as well! So you don't need a separate Mastodon account to "crosspost". (Kinda like when we posted a meetup event, we would then cross post to Twitter. - You don't do that here. It's just one place and any fediverse account that follows you can interact with you via any other software / service.
So! I can follow my FXBG Hackers Mobilizon group from my Mastodon account. It just looks like a normal account from here. (you can view it at: @fxbghackers ).
You can view that link through Mobilizon or through Mastodon and it will appear differently (see screen shots).
Here's the cool thing. I REPLIED to the Mobilizon event announcement with my Mastodon account via the Mastodon software and it shows up AS A COMMENT in the Mobilizon event page!!!!
Import et synchronisation des événements, annonces des orgas, conversations... avec la v4 de #Mobilizon qui sort aujourd'hui nous atteignons nos buts (et sommes prêtes à faire la passe !)
#Mobilizon, the federated social events system by Framasoft, is pulling in some big new features. It's also moving out from under the Framasoft umbrella!