howtophil, 22 days ago

@mcc There's probably one written that only works in the version of python you don't have installed

grrrr_shark, 22 days ago

@howtophil @mcc oof, I felt this one in my bones.

aburka, 20 days ago

@mcc I love their recent innovation where pip refuses to install stuff, refers you to your package manager which of course doesn't have it, so you just have to type --break-system-packages like I'm opening the freaking Marauder's Map

mcc, 20 days ago

@aburka Would you like a suggestion

aburka, 20 days ago

@mcc yes please

mcc, 20 days ago

@aburka use pipx, it is a variant of pip designed to rest safely on top of the break-system-packages weirdness instead of screwing with it

It is basically a drop in replacement, it is annoying to switch python tools AGAIN but once you do it just works

The downside is pipx packages are not shared between accounts

aburka, 20 days ago

@mcc unfortunately not a complete solution because it's just for installing binaries, not library dependencies

mcc, 20 days ago

@aburka oh. Really?

Hm, I need to reread some docs.

BubblegumYeti, 21 days ago

@mcc we using python for that??

mcc, 21 days ago

@BubblegumYeti ofc

demiurg, 21 days ago

@mcc pyenv FTW \m/

https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv

nf3xn, 21 days ago

@demiurg @mcc this only counts the versions pyenv is aware of...

...at least with python you only have to check the disk - it's not like trying to find the ancient java in the mini-computer within your main computer chip

mdione, 21 days ago

@demiurg @mcc hmmm, but it doesn't work if the answer is 0, unsless it vendors a static version of the interpreter? See also:python is not in $PATH

mcc, 21 days ago

@mdione @demiurg is it possible to write a Python/sh polyglot?

jimfl, 21 days ago

@mcc Except that the problem is NP-hard

jleedev, 22 days ago

@mcc I was about to dunk on google-cloud-cli but since I last checked I am delighted to report that they are no longer bundling a python interpreter for a completely different architecture and the installed-size is several hundred MB smaller.

mcc, 22 days ago

@jleedev if you want a substitute reason to dunk on Google Cloud, they refused to let me delete my account unless I agreed to the service T&Cs first

tedmielczarek, 22 days ago

@mcc call it ophiology