etherdiver,
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Spotify to raise prices, then pay musicians even less.

If your music is on Spotify, why? Are you so successful that you enjoy subsidizing Spotify executives' extravagant lifestyles?

https://www.billboard.com/business/streaming/spotify-songwriters-less-mechanical-royalties-audiobooks-bundle-1235673829/amp/

#FuckSpotify #SpotifyIsAScam #GetOffSpotify

etherdiver,
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Society is increasingly a series of more and more obvious and exploitative scams that we're tacitly "required" to participate in, but guess what? No one's actually required to have their music there and if everyone stops, they can't run their scam any more.

It's especially easy for most of the people who will see this to pull your music; I'm willing to bet most of you are making, at best, a few hundred a year, maybe a couple thousand if you're very lucky.

Is that worth it? Really?

SabiLewSounds,
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@etherdiver I don't make anything tbh and never will either way thus - #homeless

But I agree

SabiLewSounds,
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@etherdiver

Just as proof

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etherdiver,
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And for the non musicians that see this, please consider discontinuing your use of Spotify. It's incredibly exploitative to the musicians whose music you're enjoying (unless you're only listening to the most popular acts on the service).

Honestly, even piracy is better for most musicians: at least that's not enriching someone else at their expense.

Spend your money on music as close to the source as possible. The Internet makes it possible to put money directly in most musicians' pockets.

nigelharpur,
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@etherdiver thinking... I released both my albums via CD Baby... both times I just ticked the "Whatever! Fill yer boots" option... which I am sure included all the well known pirates (streaming services)... wonder if I can 'pull' my tracks from those now? Spotify is one of many really, they're all shite tbh

etherdiver,
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@nigelharpur oh yeah, they're def all shit. I use Spotify as the poster child because they're the big dog.

I think you can pull your music via those services but I don't have any direct experience. Maybe someone who knows how can weigh in?

TheFreshBeets,
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@etherdiver Fuck Spotify. I'd assume that the vast, vast majority of users do only listen to the most major international talent on it. Smaller musicians could disappear from it and the general populace wouldn't even notice.

etherdiver,
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@TheFreshBeets I generally agree, but by putting their music there, I feel like smaller acts are lending legitimacy to the platform.

TheFreshBeets,
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@etherdiver Oh absolutely. Less known talent should absolutely remove themselves from the platform, no question.

SabiLewSounds,
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I completely agree!

I would never use Spotify for small musicians - sadly many people want everything for free & it's usually people who can afford to pay artists directly

I'm only using Scamify right now for the sake of my mother (who has dementia and I'm her primary #caretaker) because she gets very confused when she hears the ads on the radio & sometimes only being out in the car on a drive is how she has peace & safety because every cunt in this world doesn't fucking mask - more to rant

SabiLewSounds,
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I know MULTIPLE PEOPLE even one particular person who pirates movies and who knows what else spend hundreds on multiple streaming platforms - then they say they have not much money, they claim they're frugal in their spending - but you know they would die before subscribing to my #KofiPage for even $5 a month - they'd rather give it to #Twitch or some huge streamer who isn't #disabled or in #poverty because capitalism and colonialism always fucking wins in this society - that's reality MORE

SabiLewSounds,
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I'm sick of this world honestly - I really try to avoid being a hypocrite because I see it every damn day from every fuckin "activist" on every fucking platform - people won't care until it's a noose on their fucking neck. The marginalized are DYING, there's genocide in every fucking nation, these stupid gadgets we use, the clothes we wear & more are made from the blood of CHILDREN yet here we are playing games & rotting away with "entertainment"

Fuck Spotify
Fuck Netflix
Fuck YouTube

Not done

SabiLewSounds,
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So many people spew "support small" all over but let many people go without housing, without food, without health care, without safety, without mental health, without community

I was just thinking this morning how so many cunts don't respect a human being as equal unless they've met them "on person"

That's the world we live in, a bunch of cowards with their head in the sand

tieflingdiotima,
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@etherdiver working on it. I have the export... I just have to port it into something useful.

I understand Bandcamp is also an issue though; where should we be going?

opaquemass,
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@tieflingdiotima @etherdiver Why is Bandcamp an issue? I'm very happy there.

etherdiver,
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@opaquemass @tieflingdiotima they have done some shitty stuff irt their labor force (mass layoffs aimed at killing their union). And I think people fear that the enshittification stage is imminent, so they're reluctant to get comfortable there.

etherdiver,
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@tieflingdiotima Bandcamp has some issues for sure, but they treat musicians well (for now at least).

Alternatives included @mirlo and Jam.coop, plus various self hosting options

SabiLewSounds,
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@tieflingdiotima @etherdiver

I've heard of faircamp but I have lost everything and have no way to migrate right now

Hook up with @radiofreefedi they have a faircamp set up

Unabart,
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@etherdiver Go to shows.
Buy the merch.

etherdiver,
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@Unabart Always

lin11c,
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@etherdiver
Buy music from musicians themselves on Bandcamp.

bobjonkman,
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@etherdiver

> Society is increasingly a series of more and more obvious and exploitative scams...

Did you mean "Spotify is increasingly..." ???

Although what you wrote isn't wrong.

etherdiver,
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@bobjonkman no I meant society 😅

Spotify is simply one of many of those scams

voight,
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@etherdiver Spotify is a horrible company! Never gave them any of my money and I never will!

samiamsam,
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@etherdiver fuck spotify and fuck them for paying rogan so much to spew nonsense and then rip off actual creative people

fuck spotify

windbliss,
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@etherdiver

The Catdragon is not on Spotify for exactly this. They are not worth my time, nor my money.

#FuckSpotify

marenzers,
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@etherdiver Transitioning away from spotify and just buying albums I enjoy has been a bit weird and inconvenient but seeing more news like this makes me happy to have gone away from it.

ghostdrone,
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ravetracer_22,
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@etherdiver Phew. And people still ask me if I can put my music on Spotify as well beside Bandcamp and YouTube. I know why I won't do this.

etherdiver,
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@ravetracer_22 🤘🙏🤘

DrHyde,
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@etherdiver I’ve never used Spotify but my understanding is that it’s more like radio than buying music, and that the payouts were similar to radio too. Am I wrong?

etherdiver,
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@DrHyde I don't think they're directly comparable, and no, the radio is required to pay mechanical royalties on all the music it plays, not pick and choose who gets paid.

Also radio is kind of a ripoff for most musicians too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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